Topic: The Can't Be Derailed Thread

[Dasmos]

http://Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/cashews

lol I know what they are, but I am going to mirror everyone here and say: nuts on a pizza?

I wonder what RAB would think of that, he pretty passionate about no fruit on pizzas, what would he think of nuts?

[BeautifulShy]

I pose this question to all the nut nay sayers. Have you tried them on a pizza?

[EasyCure]

The pasta was excellent! Highly recommended. I would say that it balances out about the waitress and tip.

thanks. i hate tipping only because i hate giving someone a lousy tip even if they deserved it. Then there are places i go to where i hate giving a really good tip because it might get split up at the end of the night. Why should part of my tip go to someoen who didnt even wait on me or anything? its a stupid system.

oh and maxi, nice avatar. poor jeff always gets the shaft though

as for the nuts on pizza debate; i havent tried it but i dont like them in my salads so i dont think i'd like them in my pizza. Nuts are a standalone snack to me.

[animecyberrat]

On the subject of Pizza, we have this place here called Girdis (don't ask how to spell it ok" anyways they are this old style brick oven pizzaria and will litterally put any topping you want on it, they make the best pizzas ever and will put any topping you can think of. They don't do delivery though, but they are all you can eat also.

So a side note on the Pizza Hut, I find it funny that they are just now gettign around to advertising their pastas, which they have had forever, and now people are like "oh wow Pizza Hut now sells Pasta" when they always have.



On the Cheeseburger Pizza, yeah it was grose and didn't last long.


Now onto the tip subject, tipping is a must anyone who doesn't leave a tip is a cruel heartless bastard! you try working for LESS THAN minimum wage and then get stiffed on a tip you worked your ass off to get. Seriously the tipped employees get paid, after taxes, like $3.00 an hour, they LIVE on their tips.

Even if the guy was a jerk, you have to think outside of why he was a jerk and figure hey his life sucks ok he is working for table scraps and sometimes payday rolls around, the power bill is due and he put everything he had into the gas tank.

[UltimatePartyBear]

Even if the guy was a jerk, you have to think outside of why he was a jerk and figure hey his life sucks ok he is working for table scraps and sometimes payday rolls around, the power bill is due and he put everything he had into the gas tank.

If he really needs the tip, maybe he shouldn't act like a jerk.

I wonder what RAB would think of that, he pretty passionate about no fruit on pizzas, what would he think of nuts?

I could be pedantic and point out that tomatoes, bell peppers, and many other "vegetables" are fruits, but instead I'll say that pineapple on pizza is absolutely disgusting.  JalapeƱos, on the other hand, are a fine compliment to pepperoni.

[EasyCure]

Even if the guy was a jerk, you have to think outside of why he was a jerk and figure hey his life sucks ok he is working for table scraps and sometimes payday rolls around, the power bill is due and he put everything he had into the gas tank.

If he really needs the tip, maybe he shouldn't act like a jerk.

I wonder what RAB would think of that, he pretty passionate about no fruit on pizzas, what would he think of nuts?

I could be pedantic and point out that tomatoes, bell peppers, and many other "vegetables" are fruits, but instead I'll say that pineapple on pizza is absolutely disgusting.  JalapeƱos, on the other hand, are a fine compliment to pepperoni.

Rat i do tip, even if they suck, i just don't tip as well as i would if they sucked. My rule of thumb is to just leave whatever the Tax x2 is. From there i'll leave more or less accordingly.

for example when i was at pizza hut last night. Total bill was $30.36
the tax was $5 and change so i put down $43+ cuz even though the service wasn't great, i just assume it would've been better if the girl waiting my table wasn't also running around doing the majority of the place. I felt bad because she was obviously working her ass off because they were understaffed so i gave her a little something extra, and i only saw her 3 times that night.

Now it'd be different if i go to a a nice establishment with a full staff and got ignored while there. If they just ignored me or seemed like they didnt care i'd give them whatever the tax is, maybe even round it up to the nearest dollar. You'd have to be pretty bad to make me leave you less though, but sadly its happened before.

and that, everyone, is why i hate tipping. I know i have to and i feel bad if i dont, but i'm too nice of a person to NOT leave a decent tip so it really hurts when i do and the person might not deserve it (or if i thinkt he person that DOES deserve it gets screwed because the joing splits tips)

[vudu]

for example when i was at pizza hut last night. Total bill was $30.36
the tax was $5 and change so i put down $43+

Wait, so was your total bill $30 or $35?  (i.e. is tax included in your total bill figure?)

Regardless, you over tipped.  If tax wasn't included, you tipped approximately 25% ($30 x 1.25 + $5 = $43).  If tax was included, you tipped almost 50% ($25 x 1.75 + $5 = $43).

[EasyCure]

it was 30.36 tax included

[vudu]

So you tipped 50% for service that "wasn't great"?  Waitress must have had massive jugs.

[EasyCure]

i said i felt bad the girl was bustin her ass and had to deal with assholes while i was there. I sat there trying to enjoy my food and had to put up with customers yelling at the poor girl for napkins or refills, when they know damn well the place is understaffed at the moment and have apologized numerous times. Then when the waitress would bring them what they want/needed they'd snicker and talk **** behind her back, you can just tell those other customers weren't going to tip her well. If you were in her shoes wouldn't you like a $10 tip for trying your hardest?

ya dudu head

[Maverick]

I don't believe in tipping.  I do it anyways 'cause I feel bad that restaurants have based their payment structure on their reliance on tips (and I'm afraid they'll spit in my food next time).  I shouldn't have to pay an extra five bucks or so every time I eat out to pay you for doing your job, god damnit!

[DAaaMan64]

Owning a restaurant is a pain in the ass, and the money is no where. Thank god for tips or no one would do that job.

[animecyberrat]

If you can't afford to tip, then don't eat out. If you can afford to eat out, remember the person busting their ass to provide your service does not have that luxury.


I was saying if they sometimes have a bad day or something or are really swamped, they are doing their best, the people who suck balls and don't deserve the tip, they don't last anyways and will draw welfare when they get fired for being a jerk.

It is kinda different for Pizza Drivers cuz they get a paycheck, gas money and their tips, but for the servers, their tips are allocated from their paycheck and taxed as income so in reality they still make less than minimum wage, which last time I checked was a joke.

You have to keep in mind that if someone is willing to work such a shitty job it is likely the best they can do, it is often their second job and is still not enough to pay the increasing bills.

But I do agree it should be based on service, but only in as much as you take into consideration the circumstances, watch Waiting, it will put things into perspective.

[Maverick]

I just don't understand the concept of obligatory tipping.  Waitresses need to make more money?  Raise the prices of your food to match the standard tip, and get rid of this stupid system.  It's just annoying.

I can afford to tip, I just think it's stupid.

[BeautifulShy]

When I got my pizza the other day I got it delivered and they charged for delivery. The charge was like five bucks so the delivery guy got screwed out of a tip. Would you pay the delivery guy a tip if you got charged to deliver it?
For restaurants the standing rule is 15% at average restaurants and 20% at top of the line places of what the bill is. At least that is what it is California.

[animecyberrat]

that delivery charge does NOT go to the driver at all.

Waitresses need to make more money?  Raise the prices of your food to match the standard tip, and get rid of this stupid system.  It's just annoying.

If they did that nobody could afford to eat out, and even then they waitress still gets taxed the same.

[Maverick]

That wouldn't change anything, people just wouldn't tip.  It would be the same overall priced just conveniently included in the meal price.  Tips get taxed now anyways, so I don't see the problem.

[animecyberrat]

So what about sales people? Should they just get a flat paycheck, no commission? A tip is obligatory in that they need it to survive, but the amount is and should be based on the level of service.

[nickmitch]

Being paid on commission is essentially giving your own tip. On the subject of tips, I only tip when the waiter/waitress deserves it. If I don't like the service, they don't get a tip, simple as that. Some people get paid less because of their ability to get tipped. You can spot these people because they work harder.

[Maverick]

Can you take it from here, nickmitch?  I'm tired.

[EasyCure]

I just don't understand the concept of obligatory tipping.  Waitresses need to make more money?  Raise the prices of your food to match the standard tip, and get rid of this stupid system.  It's just annoying.

I can afford to tip, I just think it's stupid.

I agree with you really. It'd be much easier, even though i hate eating out and seeing it listed on the freakin bill. For some reason that just angers me.

oh and rat your thoughts on the matter dont count cuz you obviously can't eat out much currently because of your lack of funds. Just kidding (i've been there) I do have a problem with the "the service might of sucekd cuz they were having a bad day" excuse. I've hated that excuse for anyone performing their job. I've been there, i've had terrible days in my personal life but i've never once let them affect my job (unless of course something drastic like a death or serious accident). Its BS because when you accept a job (especially in the customer service industry) you're expected to be some sort of saint, its your freaking job to please customers so saying "oh he was just being a dick cuz he had a rough day" is no excuse. Half the time they're having a bad day cuz they hate their job, how is that my problem and why should i sympathize enough to want to pay them for that? It's not my responsability as a customer to compensate them for a job they hate.

I shouldn't even tip as good as i do when they treat me like dirt, but i know its a rough world out there and money is important to get buy so i do my best, why can't they do theirs? I go to this one steakhouse often enough that they know my face, and there's one guy we get stuck with every now and again thats just bad at what he does. He's not having a bad day each time i have him either, he just sucks at what he does. He's not friendly, he forgets orders/request, he just sucks at his job.

[animecyberrat]

those people shouldn't be in the service job I know that, one reason why I don't apply for waiter jobs some times it isn't the guy is a jerk sometimes it is they just aren't out going enough.


Look if you have never worked a **** minimum wage job just to scrape buy then your opinion doesn't matter, if mine doesn't matter cuz I can't afford to go out.

[Maverick]

I used to be a bus boy.  You know, the guys who set up your table and then clean all your nasty **** off of it when you're done?  The guys who do every little demeaning chore all day at minimum wage for the entire restaurant.  You know how much money we got in tips?  About two dollars max from each waiter working on our shift.  Usually culminating in about 10-15 bucks or so per person.

I didn't mind that though, 'cause it was extra money.  I was already getting paid minimum wage and that was what I agreed to.  The tip money was gravy.

[animecyberrat]

So who likes Egg Rolls?

[nickmitch]

I love egg rolls. Has anyone ever had steak and cheese egg rolls? Those are the best.