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RE: Official Smash Bros. Dojo Update Discussion
« Reply #400 on: August 17, 2007, 11:39:55 AM »
I've noticed that Brawl lacks a considerable amount of bloom.  The new Medal of Homer has lots of bloom.  Brawl needs to get in touch with the times.
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RE:Official Smash Bros. Dojo Update Discussion
« Reply #401 on: August 17, 2007, 11:42:03 AM »
Mario should be redone to look like a gruff, war torn, individual who has seen the world come apart around him.
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RE: Official Smash Bros. Dojo Update Discussion
« Reply #402 on: August 17, 2007, 11:46:52 AM »
Peach has to ditch the dress and get some pants.

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RE:Official Smash Bros. Dojo Update Discussion
« Reply #403 on: August 17, 2007, 03:02:21 PM »
Peach has such womanly curves.
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RE: Official Smash Bros. Dojo Update Discussion
« Reply #404 on: August 17, 2007, 07:08:00 PM »
Smash Bros Melee had the same kind of darker texturing, just not on Peach specifically.

Also Peach's toad shield just underlines that she is a tyrannical overlord ruling the Mushroom Kingdom with an iron fist. The human invader who subdued the inferior mushroom race and uses them to depose the rightful KING! Bowser is an actual king, Peach is just a princess which means she should not be a ruler!

The ongoing segregations against coloured mushrooms (gumbas) shall not continue, pushing the gumbas into ghettos and having Comerade Mario, the state executioner, exterminate them is UNACCEPTABLE! The UN has already demanded an embargo against Mushroom Kingdom until the rightful rule of King Bowser is reestablished!

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RE: Official Smash Bros. Dojo Update Discussion
« Reply #405 on: August 17, 2007, 07:39:32 PM »
I was never a fan of the Toad defense move. It's slow and leaves her wide open. I was hoping they'd give her a new move. Oh well.

And Peach looks amazing. Imagine how good she'll look in high definition. Yeah, I said it.

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RE: Official Smash Bros. Dojo Update Discussion
« Reply #406 on: August 17, 2007, 11:50:26 PM »
It's possible that they've accelerated its deployment.  The concept itself isn't bad (e.g., Marth's parry).
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RE: Official Smash Bros. Dojo Update Discussion
« Reply #407 on: August 18, 2007, 01:44:32 AM »
Maybe Toad serves as other functions now, too.  Maybe he's a reflector AND counter attack?  Could be...
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RE:Official Smash Bros. Dojo Update Discussion
« Reply #408 on: August 18, 2007, 11:07:26 AM »
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Smash Bros Melee had the same kind of darker texturing, just not on Peach specifically.

Also Peach's toad shield just underlines that she is a tyrannical overlord ruling the Mushroom Kingdom with an iron fist. The human invader who subdued the inferior mushroom race and uses them to depose the rightful KING! Bowser is an actual king, Peach is just a princess which means she should not be a ruler!

The ongoing segregations against coloured mushrooms (gumbas) shall not continue, pushing the gumbas into ghettos and having Comerade Mario, the state executioner, exterminate them is UNACCEPTABLE! The UN has already demanded an embargo against Mushroom Kingdom until the rightful rule of King Bowser is reestablished!


Awesome.

Bowser needs to get the same PR agent that cleaned up the Wicked Witch of the West's image and get a book deal that tells the TRUE story of the struggles of the mushroom kingdom.
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RE:Official Smash Bros. Dojo Update Discussion
« Reply #409 on: August 18, 2007, 12:01:21 PM »
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Smash Bros Melee had the same kind of darker texturing, just not on Peach specifically.

Also Peach's toad shield just underlines that she is a tyrannical overlord ruling the Mushroom Kingdom with an iron fist. The human invader who subdued the inferior mushroom race and uses them to depose the rightful KING! Bowser is an actual king, Peach is just a princess which means she should not be a ruler!

The ongoing segregations against coloured mushrooms (gumbas) shall not continue, pushing the gumbas into ghettos and having Comerade Mario, the state executioner, exterminate them is UNACCEPTABLE! The UN has already demanded an embargo against Mushroom Kingdom until the rightful rule of King Bowser is reestablished!


Awesome.

Bowser needs to get the same PR agent that cleaned up the Wicked Witch of the West's image and get a book deal that tells the TRUE story of the struggles of the mushroom kingdom.


I'LL WRITE BOSWER'S TRUE STORY!

The story goes like this: Despise his reign as evil king of the koopas he was a lot like the other citizens of the Mushroom Kingdom. He had a father and a mother. The twist is that his parents were normal, run of the mill koopas.  They were leading a very happy life...or so it seems. Bowser's mother was not happy with her middle class stability. She wanted the enthusiasm that ruled her younger days back. One day, she meets a charismatic happy fruit salesman that made promises of never ending joy if you ate his fruit. She became hooked, obsessed even, on the fruit and created a forbidden love between her and the salesman. One day, she laid an egg, an egg she claim was born out of the love between her and her husband but everyone in the village knew the story behind it.

One day, the egg began to hatch. A lot of koopas watched in awe as another life was brought into existence. But as the egg cracked and parts of the young one's appear smiles turned into shocked and disgusted looks. When the egg finally cracked the koopas began to feel sick. The baby was not like the other koopa children. He had hellish red eyes with long hair to match. His shell was filled with spikes and his hands were adorned with sharp claws. As he began his first cry to the world his shark like teeth were shown for the first time. The koopas began to talk as a monster was born that day. They didn't understand how such a hideous child was born to a normal couple. But his mother knew why. It was the happy fruit. She ate too much of them while the egg was being made. As if the first impression wasn't enough as he cried he let fire out of his mouth, burning down the humble little house he was hatched in.

It finally dawned on his father that this child was not his own. Feeling the cold pain of betrayal deep in his heart he left his "loving wife", never to appear in their life ever again. The villagers gave him a most cruel yet appropriate name; Bowser.

As expected his childhood was not a happy life. He grew envying the other koopas who had a complete happy family. They downright shunned him due to his deformed appearance. They were extremely cruel towards him, calling him names like "mutant freak", "monster" and even "firestarter" as they constantly remind him of how he burned down his house upon birth. But despise this he grew tolerant of said comments and tried to have a normal life.

As a teen koopa he met a wondrous beauty by the name of Peach, Princess of the Mushroom Kingdom. At first she was disgusted by the hellish appearance of the koopa (which became worse as he grew into adulthood). But as she spends time with him she learns that deep within the monster appearance lies a wonderful man. But her family downright forbid it. She was a Princess, she has a reputation and legacy to uphold. She had no power over the influence of her family so she had to leave Bowser behind. This drove Bowser insane with anger. For the first time in his life he felt cursed by his appearance. But during this moment of madness he realized that he had a great power with him, a strength that could turn him into the ultimate ruler of the Mushroom Kingdom. With his powerful presence he relied an army filled with misfits and outcasts with promises that a fairer life was waiting for them.

And this is where Super Mario Bros. begins. He kidnaps Princess Peach hoping that she would be his queen. But she grew to fear Bowser as he finally turned into what people called him growing up; a monster. He then battles Mario, a human from another dimension who is sent to rescue Peach while he battles with his own intentions.

Will Mario defeat Bowser? Will true love surface once more? Will Bowser find his meaning in life?

I can see this selling a million copies, and even turning it into a smash Broadway!

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RE:Official Smash Bros. Dojo Update Discussion
« Reply #410 on: August 18, 2007, 05:13:24 PM »
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Maybe Toad serves as other functions now, too.  Maybe he's a reflector AND counter attack?  Could be...

He already does that.  He vomits a cloud of like mushroom spores or something when you successfully block an attack with him.  Deadly mushroom spores.
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RE: Official Smash Bros. Dojo Update Discussion
« Reply #411 on: August 19, 2007, 05:14:23 AM »
I think Toad should flail when an enemy is close.  I also think Toad should take energy projectiles, ex. Samus Energy Blast, and catch and throw traditional projectile, ex. Samus Missile.  Lastly I think that Toad should be exchanged out for Toadsworth.
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RE: Official Smash Bros. Dojo Update Discussion
« Reply #412 on: August 19, 2007, 08:12:08 PM »
Really? First?

Link special update.

Link will be a little different this time around . . . kinda cool (though the screens kinda make him look not so cool lol).

Love this (in regards to hooking onto ledges):

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It was difficult to aim in the previous game, but this time it automatically flies to the closest ledge, so it should be pretty simple to use.
 

I wonder if the whole charging of the up + B move is to prevent it from being spammed as a heavy attack?  

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« Reply #413 on: August 19, 2007, 08:26:08 PM »
Hmm, I didn't think the hookshot was that difficult to use in Melee. Air-dodge left/right + Z.

And yes, the charging of the spin attack was most likely meant to balance out the move. It really was one of the cheapest moves in the game, especially when the edge of the spin hits. Now, it's probably super weak unless charged. Fair trade.

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« Reply #414 on: August 19, 2007, 08:29:32 PM »
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Now, it's probably super weak unless charged. Fair trade.


It's only a fair trade if they increase his other moves power and balance him out differently, otherwise it's just a nerf

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RE: Official Smash Bros. Dojo Update Discussion
« Reply #415 on: August 19, 2007, 08:30:39 PM »
I wonder how the Gale Boomerang is going to work exactly, and if it will still be aim-able.

I hope that the developers have really worked on the tether recover auto aim because anytime the computer takes over for the player there is always the chance of an exploitable circumstance; like if some one were to jump out and get hit on purpose by your tether, possibly letting you fall and them recover back onto the stage.
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RE: Official Smash Bros. Dojo Update Discussion
« Reply #416 on: August 19, 2007, 08:33:46 PM »
You know what? This update gives me a little hope that Brawl will be more balanced and polished. I mean, they FINALLY realized that Link has been able to charge his spin attack since the classic Zelda games. Second, even I totally forgot that the boomerang in TP was different from the other boomerangs, so its nice that they added that onto the attack. And finally, they made the clawshot attack easier to perform, allowing for faster recovery.

If all characters are going to have new additions and details like that then maybe the Brawl development team has paid attention to Melee and decided to fix its mistakes.  
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RE: Official Smash Bros. Dojo Update Discussion
« Reply #417 on: August 19, 2007, 08:53:56 PM »
I hope that the bow and arrow is actually more useful now. It says it's fast so I wonder if it means it charges faster, or better yet the charge is removed all together!

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« Reply #418 on: August 20, 2007, 01:52:54 AM »
"It was difficult to aim in the previous game, but this time it automatically flies to the closest ledge, so it should be pretty simple to use."

I think the logic will be pretty simple... grabbing from the ground?  Normal, unassisted move.  Grabbing in air?  Head for a ledge, computer assisted.

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RE: Official Smash Bros. Dojo Update Discussion
« Reply #419 on: August 20, 2007, 02:10:32 AM »
I always wanted Link's Bow to be able to be aimed in 8 directions, and shoot the entire screen ...none of this arcing crap, and the Boomerang needs to a much shorter distance, but I do love the fact it can pull people towards you, or away from friends or items.

As for the Spin attack, I wonder if it is still usable in the air if it is a chargable move...it is his up special, and charging could be difficult to accomplish without accidentally jumping.

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RE:Official Smash Bros. Dojo Update Discussion
« Reply #420 on: August 20, 2007, 02:54:18 AM »
Auto-aim for the ledges is cool.  Also if a person wants to jump out and get hit to stop a recovery more power to them.
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RE: Official Smash Bros. Dojo Update Discussion
« Reply #421 on: August 20, 2007, 04:25:03 AM »
So they finally add in charging the spin attack based on the one game in the series in which you couldn't charge it.  Hopefully charging in mid air slows your fall.

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« Reply #422 on: August 20, 2007, 05:05:55 AM »
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So they finally add in charging the spin attack based on the one game in the series in which you couldn't charge it.

You can in the GC version... =)
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RE: Official Smash Bros. Dojo Update Discussion
« Reply #423 on: August 20, 2007, 05:33:27 AM »
I'm curious as to how much of an effect the Gale boomerang will have on players hit by it.

Also, this dispels any speculation about down+B transforming into Wolf Link (which I admit that I wondered about myself).

Good update, though. Glad to see they don't feel the need to divide up the special moves of a character by doing only two per day.
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RE: Official Smash Bros. Dojo Update Discussion
« Reply #424 on: August 20, 2007, 06:17:03 AM »
With the Gale Boomerang, do you think you can pull a person back onto the stage?  Like if you're playing Team battle, if your partner goes too far off the stage and their double jump and up+B don't get them back, can you time the gale boomerang to hit them and pull them closer to the stage?