Author Topic: Official SSBB SmashDate Discussion (Read 600877 times)

Luigi Dude · « **Reply #2900 on:** December 22, 2007, 08:37:57 AM »

The thing you all have to remember is the game is only ONE MONTH away from it's Japanese release. If it was going to be delayed it would have been done by now. Since Nintendo usually finishes there games up about one month before release, the Japanese version of Brawl should be 100% complete either next week or might have already been finished up this week.

So unless a delay is announced this week then that means the Japanese version is done and will be hitting stores in Japan on January 24th.

NWR_pap64 · « **Reply #2901 on:** December 22, 2007, 08:45:41 AM »

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The thing you all have to remember is the game is only ONE MONTH away from it's Japanese release. If it was going to be delayed it would have been done by now. Since Nintendo usually finishes there games up about one month before release, the Japanese version of Brawl should be 100% complete either next week or might have already been finished up this week.

So unless a delay is announced this week then that means the Japanese version is done and will be hitting stores in Japan on January 24th.

Which is why the idea of another delay RIGHT NOW sounds silly, IMHO.

Also, Nintendo, as well as third parties, could be working on a lot of games right now, one of them being able to fill up that empty "Christmas Killer APP" spot.

nickmitch · « **Reply #2902 on:** December 22, 2007, 08:54:41 AM »

I'm sure that Nintendo has something in the works for the 2008 holiday season that just hasn't been brought up yet. They shouldn't have to delay Brawl for that long. That's ridiculous.

IceCold · « **Reply #2903 on:** December 22, 2007, 09:55:12 AM »

Animal Crossing.

Luigi Dude · « **Reply #2904 on:** December 22, 2007, 06:28:43 PM »

Well there's also the fact that Mario Kart could get delayed until the end of the year. Since Smash Bros and Mario Kart were the Gamecube's biggest sellers, there's no reason to release both games close to each other. Especially since they both appeal to the same audience of people who love multiplayer party games.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #2905 on:** December 22, 2007, 06:31:06 PM »

I can see MK as the 2008 xmas release, actually.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #2906 on:** December 22, 2007, 07:26:40 PM »

I think Mario Kart will fall into the slot Strikers filled this year, a late July/early August release that will be followed by bigger titles (though now that I think of it there's a Mario Baseball sequel in the works for next year, but I don't see them delaying MK into the holiday season just so it wouldn't compete with Smash). Mario Kart is a big deal, but not big enough to carry a holiday season. I think Disaster: Day of Crisis is a possibility, as is the Kirby platformer that started as a Cube title but is assumed to have been reworked for the Wii, Animal Crossing is there, and, just because I really want it to be, Pikmin 3 is a possibility. It was a fanboy argument but it's true to a certain extent, Nintendo spent most of their biggest franchises last year (and early next year now with the Smash Bros. delay) and they're not going to have as good of a lineup next year (unless Nintendo pulls out some great original games that we haven't heard of).

IceCold · « **Reply #2907 on:** December 22, 2007, 07:29:40 PM »

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Mario Kart is a big deal, but not big enough to carry a holiday season. I think Disaster: Day of Crisis is a possibility, as is the Kirby platformer that started as a Cube title but is assumed to have been reworked for the Wii, Animal Crossing is there, and, just because I really want it to be, Pikmin 3 is a possibility.

I dunno, I think you're underestimating Mario Kart. It sold more than 6 million on the Cube, behind only Smash (or maybe even more than Smash), and in front of Sunshine by a bit. It certainly has more selling power than any of the others you've listed except Animal Crossing in Japan.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #2908 on:** December 22, 2007, 07:39:13 PM »

It has tremendous selling power, yes, but I think you still need a strong single player game as well. There are exceptions, like Halo 3 on the 360, and I think Smash Bros. could do it, though Brawl seems to have a great single player component. And anyway, I think I made a stronger point earlier in my post when I said I didn't think Nintendo would delay a game 6 months just to not compete with Brawl. Double Dash's 6 million didn't come all at once; it doesn't matter if it loses some early sales because of Brawl because (as long as it's good) it's a title that will continue to sell for the rest of the Wii's life

Luigi Dude · « **Reply #2909 on:** December 23, 2007, 06:07:30 PM »

F*cking Sweet, Classic Wario is in the game everyone.

Damn, to bad Wario is the only character that will have an alternate costume according to the site.

NWR_pap64 · « **Reply #2910 on:** December 23, 2007, 06:14:05 PM »

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F*cking Sweet, Classic Wario is in the game everyone.

Looks like Brawl will have alternate costumes after all.

Its quite neat, although I hope the other characters get similar treatment. Dr.Mario is SO an alternate costume for Mario...

nickmitch · « **Reply #2911 on:** December 23, 2007, 06:14:05 PM »

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Everyone can change colors, of course. But Wario alone is special...

Caterkiller · « **Reply #2912 on:** December 23, 2007, 06:15:22 PM »

Yahoo! Man is that a relief! Nothing against his new clothes but his classic look is so much more appealing to me.

I havn't read it in english yet, but hopefuly Wario isn't the only one with a costume change.

nickmitch · « **Reply #2913 on:** December 23, 2007, 06:19:49 PM »

Hey, you have Wario in Mario clothes fighting Mario in Wario clothes! I'm so doing this when I get the game.

Luigi Dude · « **Reply #2914 on:** December 23, 2007, 06:22:38 PM »

Damn, the German site was the first to report this so I didn't know there was a line about only Wario having an alternate costume. Which kind of sucks since that would have made great potential for several characters. I'm guessing that Sakurai wasn't planning on doing any alternate costumes but since so many people wanted Classic Wario in the game, Sakurai made an exception in this case.

Oh well, at least Classic Wario makes the update good since Classic Wario is the design that deserved to be used in the first place. Plus this also increases the chance of there being a Wario Land stage since Classic Wario is being represented.

Caterkiller · « **Reply #2915 on:** December 23, 2007, 06:22:40 PM »

Ok so I just saw it in english, and Sakurai mentions that Wario is unique with this costume change! Can we really assume that Wario is really the only one? I mean really, if Wario has something like this, then everyone must have something like this!

anubis6789 · « **Reply #2916 on:** December 23, 2007, 06:24:38 PM »

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Yahoo! Man is that a relief! Nothing against his new clothes but his classic look is so much more appealing to me.

I havn't read it in english yet, but hopefuly Wario isn't the only one with a costume change.

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Everyone can change colors, of course. But Wario alone is special...

But I actually feel that this may mean that Wario alone is special... from the start, meaning that you unlock the rest.

I actually think that this is what became of Ness and this may be how you start out as ZSS (and Sheik if he/she is still part of Zelda, if in the game as playable to begin with). Lets not forget that Melee also had a minor alternate costume for the Ice Climbers in which the last two colors had Nana as the leader (go try it, you will notice that the faces swap in the selection box on the character select screen), so if the alternate IC costume is still in then that staement is a lie at worst and misrepresentation at best.

ThePerm · « **Reply #2917 on:** December 23, 2007, 06:32:05 PM »

lol, to make sure the translation was correct I checked the German site. There must have been a reason they posted it there first. To not screw up and overdo peoples expectations. Lol, none of those german words were foreign to me, but i really need to study hardcore for a couple days. Theres no excuse that I didn't understand that. I had to use a translator, i feel so bad

nickmitch · « **Reply #2918 on:** December 23, 2007, 06:33:44 PM »

Hm, maybe there's "alternate characters" for Dr. Mario, etc. I doubt there'll be others with the costumes like Wario, but here's hoping.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #2919 on:** December 23, 2007, 06:51:02 PM »

As of now, there are 23 update days until Brawl's release in Japan, and still 12 vet characters unrevealed (assuming no one has been axed). That means that literally half of the updates of this month need to be vet character reveals if they're still in the game and not locked, for some idiotic reason.

Time is running out for Sakurai...

Arbok · « **Reply #2920 on:** December 23, 2007, 07:20:53 PM »

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As of now, there are 23 update days until Brawl's release in Japan, and still 12 vet characters unrevealed (assuming no one has been axed). That means that literally half of the updates of this month need to be vet character reveals if they're still in the game and not locked, for some idiotic reason.

Time is running out for Sakurai...

Captain Falcon is really the only one left who I expect might be shown at this point from the vet side. Luigi and Jigglypuff were both secret characters in the 64 game and Melee... so I imagine there will be a number of previously locked characters who stay that way and we don't hear about them until release.

that Baby guy · « **Reply #2921 on:** December 23, 2007, 07:26:43 PM »

Tomorrow, we may see a Christmas surprise. I'm hoping he does a massive update.

Luigi Dude · « **Reply #2922 on:** December 23, 2007, 07:43:58 PM »

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Captain Falcon is really the only one left who I expect might be shown at this point from the vet side. Luigi and Jigglypuff were both secret characters in the 64 game and Melee... so I imagine there will be a number of previously locked characters who stay that way and we don't hear about them until release.

Plus we still have no idea who's been cut. Now we can safely say that Pichu, Dr. Mario and Roy are all gone but everyone else except Captain Falcon, Luigi, Jigglypuff, Ganondorf and Mr. Game and Watch (because of the character icon numbers) is left up in the air at this point.

JonLeung · « **Reply #2923 on:** December 24, 2007, 01:47:11 AM »

Kind of an obvious statement, but you'd think they could've done the alternate costume thing for other characters too.

I mean, Wario's two outfits are considerably different, whereas for Samus, it'd just be a matter of changing the shoulder pads from the Varia/Gravity/Phazon Suit to create the original Power Suit. The PED Suit isn't much different, though it does have that distinctive Federation symbol. And you'd think they could grab the models of the Fusion/Light/Dark Suits from the Prime games and upgrade them slightly and use those. But at least the PED and Power Suits, come on!

How about a slightly redesigned Fox (I hear people don't like the Command look).

So much for having Fierce Deity Link Vs. Overloading Phazon PED Samus!

And I'd always hoped for an 8-bit/16-bit 2D sprite look. Maybe there could be an oldschool stage that does it for everyone (kind of like how Flat Zone in Melee made everyone flat, though that wasn't always noticeable...they should've become monotone in colour, too).

stevey · « **Reply #2924 on:** December 24, 2007, 04:02:28 AM »

"Damn, to bad Wario is the only character that will have an alternate costume according to the site. "

I think they just meant that only Wario has this costume which make sense.

so hyped for tomorrow update, no way it not going to be a New Character MALON!

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