Author Topic: Kotaku: Reggie Taunts Us With September Wii Surprise Smash Online Hint!! (Read 13919 times)

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #25 on:** July 25, 2007, 06:31:48 AM »

As for this September Surpise, I hope it is a full Wii firmware upgrade.

We know that a new channel is coming available soon...and Nintendo has tied the release of firmware updates with the release of a new channel.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #26 on:** July 25, 2007, 07:12:12 AM »

This is what irritates the hell out of me.

If they're working on SSBB's online mode but they're not certain if it's going to work, then they should damn well say "We're trying to get it to work but we're as of yet uncertain."

HONESTY, FFS! Just be honest with your customer base and I'd wager they'll not only respect you more for it but they also won't blow it so out of proportion if the game turns out to NOT have online play.

The real problem with Nintendo's PR has always been that, if you say nothing, people draw their own incorrect conclusions anyway so you're better off stomping out this sort of thing BEFORE it becomes a problem and people start blaming you for "broken promises".

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #27 on:** July 25, 2007, 07:19:31 AM »

"If they're working on SSBB's online mode but they're not certain if it's going to work, then they should damn well say "We're trying to get it to work but we're as of yet uncertain.""

Yeah, well, Sakurai has already said that multiple times...

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #28 on:** July 25, 2007, 07:33:25 AM »

I know, but Reggie should be saying it right now.

I understand when Nintendo allows speculation to run wild with hardware because they can't reveal what they're working on for fear of it being ripped-off, but in the case of SSBB being online or not, what do they have to lose giving actual news on the subject? It's not like Sony will sweep in with a SSB clone with online play if they announce it for SSBB.

This thread is ironclad proof of the damage speculation can do. Reggie didn't say anything regarding SSBB online play and yet that's the conclusion everyone is drawing because he refused to comment.

Mashiro · « **Reply #29 on:** July 25, 2007, 07:37:05 AM »

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"My plan is to include Wi-Fi connection compatibility and online functionality. One of the primary reasons Super Smash Bros. Brawl was created was that Nintendo, when taking Wii online, wanted to have Smash Bros. to do that," added Sakurai.

They're working on it. Nintendo wants it online. Sakurai wants it online. Everyone who likes Smash wants it online.

They keep hinting that it's coming, they don't seem down about it when asked about it being online.

At this point it's safe to say it'll be online.

IF they stay quiet about it AFTER the TGS THEN I'd start worrying.

Strell · « **Reply #30 on:** July 25, 2007, 08:07:53 AM »

So as I asked in the Smash thread, anyone for a friendly gentlemen's wager on the inclusion/exclusion of online?

Ceric · « **Reply #31 on:** July 25, 2007, 08:22:33 AM »

Nintendo will say that their is online play. When it comes the online play will be SSBB themed online Go Fish!. Fans will be outraged. To placate the extremist Nintendo will send them an airplane ticket. Upon arrival to the airport the player is not told where they will be going. Nintendo will have set up places around the world with random players. Once there they will play Smash together and Nintendo will claim this is better then online because they can interact. They will then be Brainwashed in their sleeps to become a better Zealot for the Wii Collective. When the revolution come the Washed will be the Vangaurd.

Stogi · « **Reply #32 on:** July 25, 2007, 08:23:48 AM »

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Originally posted by: Strell
So as I asked in the Smash thread, anyone for a friendly gentlemen's wager on the inclusion/exclusion of online?

I'll bet you 20 bucks that there is some form of online.

Strell · « **Reply #33 on:** July 25, 2007, 08:38:44 AM »

Are you talking about any form of online, such as "send your trophies to friends!," or at least one version of fighting online? Even if it were just 1v1, that still counts as a proper online outlet in my opinion. The former does not.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #34 on:** July 25, 2007, 08:48:38 AM »

We'll be able to enter friend codes so we can send each other "race to the finish" ghosts.

Sigh...

vudu · « **Reply #35 on:** July 25, 2007, 08:56:50 AM »

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Originally posted by: Strell
So as I asked in the Smash thread, anyone for a friendly gentlemen's wager on the inclusion/exclusion of online?

I'll take you up on your offer.

However, if I win you have to get yourself an avatar.

NWR_pap64 · « **Reply #36 on:** July 25, 2007, 09:08:17 AM »

Online is what going to decide whether I get the game or not.

As much as I enjoy SSB I only play it when I come to visit cap and SB. I don't have that many gamer friends, much less Nintendo fanatics, around, so once I am done unlocking stuff I am done. In fact, I gave both the original SSB and Melee away because they die once I am through with them. I sold Melee back and the original SSB I gave to SB as a present (he loves it FAR MORE than I ever did).

If Brawl has online at least I can challenge people and play with far away friends, extending the replay value.

IceCold · « **Reply #37 on:** July 25, 2007, 01:28:56 PM »

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Originally posted by: vudu
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Originally posted by: Strell
So as I asked in the Smash thread, anyone for a friendly gentlemen's wager on the inclusion/exclusion of online?
I'll take you up on your offer.

However, if I win you have to get yourself an avatar.

Oh, it's on now! This is even more monumental than Kairon letting go of his signature..

You know, Ian still hasn't bought a Wii.. is your offer of $10 to not buy one still on, Strell?

Kairon · « **Reply #38 on:** July 25, 2007, 02:35:50 PM »

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Originally posted by: IceCold
Oh, it's on now! This is even more monumental than Kairon letting go of his signature..

I'm still bitter about that.

Mashiro · « **Reply #39 on:** July 25, 2007, 02:36:32 PM »

What was that wager? (the one that made karion lose his sig)

Ceric · « **Reply #40 on:** July 25, 2007, 02:38:28 PM »

Pale never capitalized on his with me so it my not happen.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #41 on:** July 25, 2007, 02:45:53 PM »

Actually no Nintendo should be saying we are trying to do this...but may not succeed.

If it just so happens that Nintendo fails, then it is a huge blemish on its system that is a public relations nightmare.

Why couldn't you get it to work? Perhaps the Wii truly is technologically inferior to the other systems...it can't even do online gaming.

Specially when Xbox 360 is releasing online fighting games on its system...sure they are not as complex as Brawl, but that doesn't matter. That is too hard to describe.

Nintendo should keep quiet until it can announce something certain...and if they can not implement...don't say anything and focus on the greater elements of the game.

Mashiro · « **Reply #42 on:** July 25, 2007, 02:54:20 PM »

Nintendo can do such games:

See Nintendo DS and Shonen Jump Ultimate Stars.

The technology is there, it can work.

EasyCure · « **Reply #43 on:** July 25, 2007, 05:28:40 PM »

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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
This is what irritates the hell out of me.

If they're working on SSBB's online mode but they're not certain if it's going to work, then they should damn well say "We're trying to get it to work but we're as of yet uncertain."

HONESTY, FFS! Just be honest with your customer base and I'd wager they'll not only respect you more for it but they also won't blow it so out of proportion if the game turns out to NOT have online play.

The real problem with Nintendo's PR has always been that, if you say nothing, people draw their own incorrect conclusions anyway so you're better off stomping out this sort of thing BEFORE it becomes a problem and people start blaming you for "broken promises".

I agree with you but...

look at what happened to Metroid: retro said in a few different interviews that they weren't interested or working on online multiplayer for Corruption but people still went on believing they'd get it until they flat out said “NO there will be no online multiplayer”.

i still no people who haven't heard the news and are waiting for online death matches next month

Fanboys will only see what they want to see.

Strell · « **Reply #44 on:** July 25, 2007, 06:16:54 PM »

Ok, I'll take the bet that there is no online component such that it is considered - and agreed upon - as a true online component in the spirit of Smash Bros. That is to say, if we get some crap like exchanging trophies or other mini game nonsense, that doesn't count, which means I'm not going by absolutely any online component. (Fun note: When MP3 was confirmed as not online, there were arguments at CAG, with someone saying "Retro said there would be online in a way we didn't expect," to which I replied with "Yeah, no-online is a way I'd certainly not expect it to be done." I bring this up because let's not get that far into dumb semantics on something so silly and for fun.

)

At the very least, for me to lose the bet, there has to be some form of the core of Smash online - I'll even let 1v1 matches be considered enough. Anything above that is icing, but at the very least we need to be able to fight other people online. I'll even be generous and say that if it's limited to X characters and X stages, that still constitutes the fighting online, so you'd win the bet. Basically, given the comments in the past, this should be pretty easy for me to lose.

If I lose, I owe KashogiStogi $10 (20 is too rich!) to be paid through his method of choice - Paypal, Money Order, etc. I also must get an avatar (which is fine) due to vudu's acceptance of bet.

If I win, Kashogi owes me $10, and vudu has to...mmm. I dunno, I could use suggestions.

Savvy?

P.S. Ian still doesn't have a Wii? :p I thought he was going to pick them up in the bargain bin for twenty bucks by now!

Khushrenada · « **Reply #45 on:** July 25, 2007, 06:39:30 PM »

I'll take Strell up on this bet.

I'm going to wager the ten dollars he still owes me for not getting a Wii.

IceCold · « **Reply #46 on:** July 26, 2007, 01:18:52 PM »

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Originally posted by: Strell
Ok, I'll take the bet that there is no online component such that it is considered - and agreed upon - as a true online component in the spirit of Smash Bros. That is to say, if we get some crap like exchanging trophies or other mini game nonsense, that doesn't count, which means I'm not going by absolutely any online component. (Fun note: When MP3 was confirmed as not online, there were arguments at CAG, with someone saying "Retro said there would be online in a way we didn't expect," to which I replied with "Yeah, no-online is a way I'd certainly not expect it to be done." I bring this up because let's not get that far into dumb semantics on something so silly and for fun. )

At the very least, for me to lose the bet, there has to be some form of the core of Smash online - I'll even let 1v1 matches be considered enough. Anything above that is icing, but at the very least we need to be able to fight other people online. I'll even be generous and say that if it's limited to X characters and X stages, that still constitutes the fighting online, so you'd win the bet. Basically, given the comments in the past, this should be pretty easy for me to lose.

If I lose, I owe KashogiStogi $10 (20 is too rich!) to be paid through his method of choice - Paypal, Money Order, etc. I also must get an avatar (which is fine) due to vudu's acceptance of bet.

If I win, Kashogi owes me $10, and vudu has to...mmm. I dunno, I could use suggestions.

Savvy?

P.S. Ian still doesn't have a Wii? :p I thought he was going to pick them up in the bargain bin for twenty bucks by now!

Quoted for the record, though I know Strell wouldn't back out and edit his post.. Are you in, Kashogi?

Ceric · « **Reply #47 on:** July 26, 2007, 02:54:20 PM »

You should have Vudu do that "I love "Chicken"" avatar that was suggested for me when I had the bet with Pale or Have no Avatar at all.

therat · « **Reply #48 on:** July 26, 2007, 03:56:57 PM »

I wish reggie would taunt us with his elephant like pen island.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #49 on:** July 27, 2007, 02:20:19 AM »

I will throw my two cents in (again)

Reggie said it was Wii24connect specific.

That is the only fact we know...so I doubt it will be hardware related. Although, it could have hardware implications.

I believe this is going to be a firmware update. A very big and important firmware update, that will do several things for the Wii owner.

No It will not magically turn the system into a cool Xbox 360...

But it will allow SD Cards play Virtual Console games on your Wii, and it will allow game saves to be accessed from the SD Cards.

Now, I am speculating here, but I predict that a Wii upgrade will be coming soon that allows Gamecube Games to be played with the Wii Classic Controller, and that it is only a matter of time for that fix to be created. Reason I believe this: Nintendo isn't creating new Gamecube Controllers yet still promotes Gamecube backwards compatibility.

Finally the firmware update will come with the new Mii channel talked about at E3. That is a given.

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Author Topic: Kotaku: Reggie Taunts Us With September Wii Surprise **Smash Online Hint!!** (Read 13919 times)

Author Topic: Kotaku: Reggie Taunts Us With September Wii Surprise Smash Online Hint!! (Read 13919 times)