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Offline Kairon

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This is a great post from Penny Arcade about rediscovering simple, kind, fun. Too often we get wrapped up in the specifics of gaming, and we fail to see the forest for the trees. Too often we get trapped into a hardcore must-win max-min mindset, and we lose track of the simple pleasures of life.

I'm all for getting into the nitty gritty of games. I'm all for statistics tracking and EV point tracking and knowing what it takes to run an entire guild through the hardest dungeon in the game... But THIS is, in my opinion, the truest essence of why we play games.

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So I ended up attending one of the Gamestop Pokemon tournaments on Saturday. When I told Kara that I wanted to go she told me it would just be a bunch of little kids. I explained to her that Pokemon was no longer just a kids game. That a large number of men my age played Pokemon now. I told her I'd probably be surrounded by guys my age who took it way more seriously than I did. I'm really glad she decided not to go with me. As it turns out I was the oldest person in the tournament by roughly twenty years and the only one not wearing a shirt with Pikachu on it.

I showed up at the Alderwood mall Gamestop and entered my name. As the little kids poured in I became less and less convinced I should participate. The little boys with their Pokemon backpacks and the girls with tiny Pokeballs in their hair seemed to assume I was just someones Dad rather than their competition.  It was actually really cool to see how much these kids love Pokemon. I've been so into it recently that I think I'd forgotten I should be having fun. With my pages of hand written math and charts of carefully plotted out EV training regiments I actually felt sort of dirty. These little kids were showing me teams comprised not of statistically optimal Pokemon but of their favorites. A little girl talked to me for five minutes about why she loved Kyogre so much. When she asked why I used Rotom I couldn't bring myself to tell her that his ghost/electric type meant he had a lot of immunities while giving him some surprising moves that should allow me to cripple sweepers with status effects but still fight off any Dark types I encounter. "I think he's cute." I explained. She smiled and nodded as though this was the reason she had expected to hear.

I noticed one of the kids there was actually quite a bit older than the rest of the group. Still probably half my age, but he towered over his opponents. I watched as he struck up conversations with the other children, inspecting their Pokemon and always finding them lacking. "I've EV trained my entire party." he said to a few of the kids who obviously had no idea what that meant. He showed of his multiple "shinies" to a couple of very impressed young men before explaining that he wasn't going to use them in the tournament because it just wouldn't be fair to everyone else. No, he would dominate them with a mixed bag of EV trained legendaries and obscure all stars culled from every single incarnation of the series. He was essentially being a little Douche.

I had just decided to pull myself out of the tournament in order to let the kids have their fun when Cory, who was running the show told me he'd matched me up against the little loudmouth in the first round. I figured I might have a chance to take him out and then none of the other kids would have to face him. So I stayed in and when it came time to play I synced up my DS and loaded my fairly mundane crew. It worked out that we were standing on the wrong sides of the television so his team showed up on my side and mine on his. The crowd of kids around me cheered and congratulated me on such an impressive roster. I explained that those were his and that mine were on the other side. "You really need to play more." one of the younger boys instructed. I agreed and selected my three Pokemon to take into battle. A few of the kids behind me would shake their heads in disgust as my finger hovered over each possible selection. My opponent, in what I can only assume was an attempt to show off grossly underestimated this old man's skillz. He tried to pull off an extremely risky strategy involving the near sacrifice of his first Pokemon for a "baton pass" maneuver and a quick stat boost to his second in line. This failed miserably as the aforementioned Rotom I pulled in did not give two shits about anything he hit me with. Once I'd taken him out I moved to the next round but really had no desire to continue. I played my opponent but then bowed out and gave him a free pass onto the next round. The young man I played earlier kept approaching me and telling me he could have beat me easy, he just used the wrong Pokemon. I nodded, yes well that's sort of the whole game.

I watched a bit more of the tournament and I was really impressed with the sportsmanship of the kids. I've been watching the cartoon with Gabe and it really stresses the importance of winning and losing graciously. Each of these kids when they lost shook the others hand and thanked them for the match. The winners complimented the losers Pokemon and strategies while impressing on them that it really was a very close game. I know they weren't my kids but as a thirty year old gamer with a kid of my own I could not help but be extremely proud of all of them. Their passion for the game was totally infectious and I've decided to throw away my spreadsheets. I'm no longer hatching five eggs at a time in order to find babies with the optimal natures and stats. I've also brought  Beautifly back into my team. She's not very tough, but I like her, she's pretty.

-Gabe out


Then, a young reader wrote back to Penny Arcade.

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I just got this email and I had to share it with you all.


Dear Mister Gabe,

Hi! My name is Nausica (gnaw-sik-ca), I am twelve years old and I love pokemon. My mom got me the Pokemon Pearl for my DS and I love love love it, it is probably my favorite game. I heard about the pokemon tournament at  Gamestop and really  wanted to go, but I am really shy  so I wasn't going to,  but my parents talked me into it and said it would be a good for me and I would have fun.
So I went and it seemed at first like it would be fun, there were alot of really nice kids there who all loved pokemon like me, it was really fun showing off my team of Evee's and seeing what other people liked too.
Then the older guys came, I dunno how old they were but they were much older then most of the other kids there, they pretty much ruined the fun of it for everyone else there. I guess they weren't really mean, but how they acted sounded alot like the boy you described, that you had a chance to beat.  But unfortunately for the kids at the tournament I went too, there wasn't a nice guy like you to set an example for them. Needless to say most of us there didn't have a good chance against them, (I never knew what the special point things were even), and they never really told us nice job or anything. The guy that got me laughed when he saw my line up of Evees.
So afterwards I really didn't wanna play pokemon very much, and I thought I was gonna stop playing, cause I only really play to have fun, not to beat everyone else. Then today my mom (who is a big fan) showed me what you wrote, and it made me feel a million times better!!!
I couldn't believe I almost let some jerks take away my love of pokemon!

So I really just wanted to tell you thank you Mister Gabe! What you said ment alot to me and my evees!! You are a great person and I wish I could have been at your tournament to meet you!

Have a great day!!

Sincerely

Nausica


ps! I'm naming my next boy evee after you ^_^

I think I'll probably be smiling for the next week thanks to this.

-Gabe out
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Why must all things be so bright? Why can things not appear only in hues of brown! I am so serious about this! Dull colors are the future! The next generation! I will never accept a world with such bright colors! It is far too childish! I will rage against your cheery palette with my last breath!

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I read that initial post and smiled but I didn't see the e-mail, that's just a great story =)

The true essence of gaming has been revealed.

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Pretty nice story. Thanks for sharing!


I can't imagine how dorky/cocky/arrogant/ugly those "master" pokemon trainers must be. I mean, to play pokemon is one thing, but bragging to little kids about how they all suck and your the sh!t is something completely different.
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I have to take this on a different level.  Some people like to have fun with friendly competitions and things.  That's great.  For these people, maybe GameStop can make a Pokemon meet-'n'-greet.

However, some people have fun playing in a competitive atmosphere.  They like to play as best as possible, and as part of the fun, talk smack, as well as things like that.  Now, I'm not saying if these GameSpot tourneys were the time or place for this, maybe they were, maybe they weren't, maybe it depended on each individual one, but the older, more mature gamers deserve to have a good time, too.

The problem is balancing these people.  A child or a casual gamer can't have much with a hardcore, use-every-advantage player.  It just doesn't work well, as evidenced by this.  Now, I do think a lot of players had the wrong attitude about this competition.  The girl in the email, for instance, was mistaken in some essence, as this was a competition, and it should be obvious to any gamer that plain-jane Eevee's are not competitive, let alone a full team of them.  However, the bigger competitors should have realized that the tourney wasn't a hardcore competition and used the opportunity to help teach people who were interested in playing on a more competitive level, rather than to laugh at others.  These players, unfortunately, will probably not find strong competition unless they help to make it, and should realize that players are just around for casual fun.

In essence, I'm saying that neither groups presented had the proper attitude.  The odds are, as a twelve-year old, the girl probably villainized the best players there.  In her perspective, she lost to them, and that made them bad guys.  Laughing at a team full of Eevees was wrong, yes, but put yourself in her competitor's position.  You go to what you expect to be a serious competition, and someone else has one of the weakest teams possible.  In your eyes, it looks like this person wasn't even trying to compete.  You might even think the kid was there playing a joke or something.  So you might laugh, unintentionally.

Gamespot should have told people who planned to attend their intentions on how serious the tourney was.  Pokemon is a game that has been around for over a decade, and each generation, strategy becomes deeper and deeper, which allows older gamers an opportunity to have fun in a strategical environment.  It isn't the better player's fault that he showed up looking for competition.  His attitude is his fault, but winning, and winning heartily, isn't some villainous act at an arranged competition.  Had GameSpot set rules, or posted that they had planned the tournament for novices, or perhaps if they had set up age-restricted brackets, or something like that, people on both sides would have known what to expect to happen on that day, yet it seems that no one did.

In essence, what I'm saying is that GameStop should have been prepared to cater with everyone, and all the players probably had a good time meeting each other.  They still could trade, talk, and casually battle.  No one was forced to hang out with the big kids who 'ruined' things for the littler ones, and if losing a tournament ruined a little kid's time, then even had the big kids not shown up, only one little kid would have been happy, anyways.

Think about if you went to a Smash tournament, and only twelve and thirteen-year olds were there.  The ones who liked to play only Pokemon, or perhaps don't play games very much at all.  These players don't know how to use a Smash Attack, and some barely even know the controls, possibly only getting through the game on Very Easy mode.

You and one or two friends show up, and try to see if any other players are experienced, despite their age.  You try talking combos, debate over use of the c-stick, discuss tiers, and talk about what items you think are cheap.  The tournament starts, you and your friends are bracketed on far ends, and essentially, you all clean up and are the only players to make it to the finals.  Does being a good player make you a villain?  To the kids it does.  Is this fair to you?  After all, you probably came to meet people your age who were interested in playing something other than Halo, and you left without meeting anyone new or facing any new competition.  In the end, both sides feel jacked, and that's about it.

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I liked how he stopped the EV training thing and went back to having fun with the game.

I EV trained and it ruined the game for me as it really has no bearing on the game what-so-ever.

Now I don't even really play the game anymore.

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EV training stop you from playing the game, it extended the game's play time.  What else would you have done besides EV training?

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I dunno made a team I actually enjoyed playing with lol. Still played online, looked for some competition. But I feel out of it (though now my team is almost done again but I haven't played in a number of weeks, I just lost interest).

I put TOO much effort in on the first go and it just burnt me out.

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I'm sorry I missed out on your thread Mashiro! &<

Yeah, GS should have had two tiers, or found a way to protect the younger/casualer gamers. But those kids are soooo heartwarming... they're son innocent and pure that I can't help but feel lifted by the story...

You know, I think I'll actually start playing Pokemon Pearl again. I stopped because I got scared away by the loads of hardcore stuff the game was requiring of me in order for me to pursue my dream... but I've decided that I'm not going to let them kill my fun.
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It's ok Karion =)

It was indeed heartwarming and I wont lie I did level up my Togekiss another level after I read that post. . . lol but got bored and turned off the game.


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Don't remember a single asshat among the hundreds of people around for the Aussie NSW Pokemon tour. Every kid I beat we talked afterwards about our strategies and favourite Pokemon, they still had lots of fun. There's a lot of exaggeration going on here.

Also, I agree with thatguys post a lot. Competitive Pokemon is awesome as long as everyone competing can accept defeat and appreciate a good match. Which appears to be the large majority of Nintendo / Pokemon fans, and the cartoon does indeed set a great example. Watching a Pikachu using Thundershock over and over against a Geodude just isn't as appealing to me. Kids also need to learn they can't expect to win something just by showing up, especially since there is a prize involved. The great thing about Pokemon though, especially in this new generation, is that most Pokemon ARE competitive anyway, the balance is great, but you still have to know what you're doing with them.

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especially in this new generation, is that most Pokemon ARE competitive anyway


Not if you don't evolve them, though.  Then, they really aren't much most of the time.

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I accidentally EV trained my Luxray. Whilst doing some poké-research, I realized that my Luxray's speed was unusually high. Later, whilst doing some more, I learned what EV training was and that battling Golbat raised the speed stat. This led me to the realization that I mostly trained Luxray against Golbat.  
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if it wasn't for my job i'd start up my Pokemon Tournament again because of this story.....even if thatguy would just pound me

I think every match I had on the NWR Pokemon Tournaments ended with a "good game", or "that was close".