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The Harry Potter Thread. Discuss it here
« on: July 20, 2007, 01:34:58 PM »
There is officially 3 hours and 30 min. until book 7. Just want this thread open to those who didnt read the spoilers to discuss their thoughts on year 7

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RE: The Harry Potter Thread. Discuss it here
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2007, 01:43:36 PM »
hmm perhaps this should be moved to General chat so TY doesn't go SPOILERZ all over it.

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« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2007, 01:48:02 PM »
i hope he doesnt. I want to talk to people once they get the book
that havnt read the spoilers

I have less then 4 hours till i get it
Which i am very happy about

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RE:The Harry Potter Thread. Discuss it here
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2007, 05:56:26 PM »
dumbledore comes back from the dead and kills hermoine

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RE:The Harry Potter Thread. Discuss it here
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2007, 06:43:58 PM »
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dumbledore comes back from the dead and kills hermoine


QFT.

You also forgot that Draco kills Ron, but is then eaten by the Basilisk.  He isn't petrified because Voldemort blinds him for not killing Dumbledore.

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« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2007, 02:29:23 AM »
okay I got 2 copies of the book and people are dieing in the first few chapters

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« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2007, 02:39:06 AM »
She should have killed Harry off in Chapter one.  Could you imangine the outrage?
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« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2007, 04:04:04 AM »
She did kill Harry in chapter one.  It's Cho Chang and Harry's illegitimate son that offs Voldy 19 years in the future.  

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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2007, 04:49:00 AM »
I read the ending on wikipedia.

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« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2007, 05:27:20 AM »
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... with his "magic" wand.  Much like a Solar Surfer (I may not have the term totally correct but points for people who can still place the referenced series)
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« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2007, 08:42:03 AM »
I'm on page 230 something. I'm not stopping until it's over.
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« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2007, 08:56:18 AM »
Didn't you stop just then?
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« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2007, 09:25:27 AM »
I'm stopping to occasionally move my body, eat food, and read your smart alec remarks. Thus far, stopping has been a waste of time.
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« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2007, 09:31:08 AM »
Svevan:  My wife is doing the same.  Think about your love ones...
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« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2007, 01:34:14 PM »
If they love me, they can wait.
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« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2007, 01:41:35 PM »
I can' t help but feel this whole thing is just part of a big hype train....  granted I never found interest to read the books in the series, but I find it hard to believe these books are leaps and bounds better than other novels...

A friend of mine goes to Boarders at 12m, gets a wristband, goes back at 2am to get the book, reads till morning, gets a few hours of sleep and then goes back to reading.  I think the compulsion is more in part due to the known spoilers running around than the quality of the book (although spoilers are rude to throw at someone trying to enjoy a book)

Edit: Question: If you had shouted the spoiler out to the folks standing in line at Boarders would you be killed?

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« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2007, 02:09:20 PM »
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Edit: Question: If you had shouted the spoiler out to the folks standing in line at Boarders would you be killed?  


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« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2007, 04:46:57 PM »
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I find it hard to believe these books are leaps and bounds better than other novels...

They're not, but they are good. I believe there is too much hype and too much marketing for the whole thing, but at least something that has quality is being enjoyed by many many people. That is a good thing.

The reason Potter Fans like to read the books so fast is because they are so addictive - Rowling has always set up more mysteries in each book than she solves, and always makes sure the trickle of information starts very slowly in the first chapter, and speeds up as you read. They are fun to read because the characters are half realistic, half mythological archetypes, and there is a beautiful mix between modernism and ancient history that makes the story feel pertinent and timeless simultaneously. We can identify with the three main characters in some way, but we also can see that they are part of an overarching history that is unfolding before us. Like Tolkien, the world is bigger than the material, and we get only small glimpses into it.

Edit: I suppose what I'm trying to say is that Potter is good in the way Star Wars is (for the most part) good: both tap into so many universal ideas that they can't help but become hugely popular. If that makes them perhaps lacking in specificity, or having such a broad scope that nothing truly "original" is said, so be it. We need myths, modern and ancient, and narratives that remind us that we are a part of something bigger than just our own lives. That is what Harry Potter is about: a world larger than Harry Potter. I don't think it makes the books bland. And I don't think being "likable" or "popular" is bad. I do think we have an instance of marketing overload and hype machine run wild, but so long as the books are good (and they have never faltered in quality) we have no worries. The hype machine will one day die, and only the books will remain.

The great works of literature can be both subversive and traditional (sometimes at the same time). Potter lands in the traditional camp. We don't have a lot of stomach for subversive books, films, music, etc, but that is a problem that Rowling is only responsible to solve inasmuch as she desires to do so. We, as readers, should not reject Potter just because the great subversive works aren't getting as much play. We should just balance tradition with subversion; the French would hate to hear me say that, but it's true, at least in our diverse days.
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« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2007, 10:08:05 PM »
Page 501. Time for bed. After church and lunch, I'll finish the last 250 pages.
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« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2007, 10:31:15 PM »
Yeah, I remember reading the first book and thinking derisively that though it was well written, it was such a "fairy tale story." Boy hating his life with family who don't understand him, ends up powerful and special and rich. Blah.

About 5 books later I have to say that J.K. Rowling has done a good job upping tha ante with each book and not squandering her opportunity. Sure, Harry hasn't done drugs and gotten laid like I'd have liked him to (by the end of the series, he'll be 18), but Ginny HAS turned into a totally manipulative man-eating harry-potter-seducing vamp/femme, so I'm quite excited to see how that's realized in the 6th movie... it's gonna be hot.
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RE: The Harry Potter Thread. Discuss it here
« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2007, 01:25:25 AM »
ugggi only on 230 didnt get much time to read. I got to share my book with 3 others, so it is hard to read 30 mins in a row

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« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2007, 01:21:37 PM »
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« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2007, 02:57:55 PM »
Great, book it was emotionally charged and my favorite of the series.  
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RE: The Harry Potter Thread. Discuss it here
« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2007, 02:59:08 PM »
They should make a Harry Potter manga, I would probably read it then

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« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2007, 03:04:47 PM »
What I appreciate most about the HP books is that unlike other"children's literature" it doesn't sugar coat things. The books can be downright brutal in places, but the books also hold valuable moral lessons as well. It is this, along with the  complex characters that attracts people of all ages to it. It is really rare that a book comes along that actually gets kids interested in reading, it usually has to be something pretty special.
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