Author Topic: CONFIRMED: Halo 3 to be Wii-killer... (Read 17142 times)

UERD · « **on:** July 19, 2007, 04:37:45 PM »

...says another idiot executive.

Dave Perry says gamers will drop Wiimotes for Halo 3

I think one of the commenters said it the best:

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Well of course I'll drop my Wiimote when Halo 3 comes out. I can't play on my 360 with my Wiimote. I'll pick it right back up again when I'm through, though.

Chozo Ghost · « **Reply #1 on:** July 19, 2007, 05:29:54 PM »

Why does everyone say Halo is the greatest thing ever? I haven't played it so that's probably why I don't really get it, but aren't there other FPS games out there? What is so special about Halo?

And yeah, Halo might be great without wiimote control, but imagine how great Halo would be WITH wiimote control... the gaming world might be turned upside down if MP3 turns out well. Maybe then this Halo-hype will cool down.

Kairon · « **Reply #2 on:** July 19, 2007, 06:17:17 PM »

Why all the Halo hate? By all accounts, you'd think that Counter-Strike isn't a big deal either...sheesh...

mantidor · « **Reply #3 on:** July 19, 2007, 06:25:12 PM »

but... it isn't. I've played Counter Strike as opposed to Halo actually, and it bored me to tears.

I don't think is hate, is simply shock, the game has to be good or it wouldn't have such mainstream presence, bad games can sell, like that fifty cent game, but that game is considered a joke. Halo sells and is constantly mentioned, there has to be something about it.

But honestly with halo theres just isn't anything special about it, the more I read about it and the more I see gameplay footage the less I see anything original, fun or interesting, at this point I'm going to end up playing the game trying to find out what the hell is supposed to be so amazing.

that Baby guy · « **Reply #4 on:** July 19, 2007, 06:25:18 PM »

Who is Dave Perry again? I keep wanting to relate him to David Schwimmer for some reason.

Edit: I know why! David Schwimmer and Matthew Perry were costars of Friends. It's like this guy is their twisted love-child or something.

Kairon · « **Reply #5 on:** July 19, 2007, 06:35:07 PM »

*sigh* Halo is... it's like Mission Impossible 2. But with a little more artistic merit.

Chozo Ghost · « **Reply #6 on:** July 19, 2007, 07:55:08 PM »

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Originally posted by: mantidor
but... it isn't. I've played Counter Strike as opposed to Halo actually, and it bored me to tears.

I don't think is hate, is simply shock, the game has to be good or it wouldn't have such mainstream presence, bad games can sell, like that fifty cent game, but that game is considered a joke. Halo sells and is constantly mentioned, there has to be something about it.

But honestly with halo theres just isn't anything special about it, the more I read about it and the more I see gameplay footage the less I see anything original, fun or interesting, at this point I'm going to end up playing the game trying to find out what the hell is supposed to be so amazing.

That's what I mean... I honestly don't doubt it is a great game, but what is there about it that makes it 100x better than other FPS games?

If there isn't anything then it must be doing so well because of hype and the bandwagon effect. I must confess that hearing everyone else raving about it makes me want to try it, but there are no doubt other FPS games that are just as good that don't get that hype and you just never hear about...

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #7 on:** July 19, 2007, 08:24:38 PM »

Halo is a poor man's FPS, but since console fans don't know any better they eat it up.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #8 on:** July 19, 2007, 10:23:19 PM »

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Originally posted by: thatguy
Who is Dave Perry again? I keep wanting to relate him to David Schwimmer for some reason.

Edit: I know why! David Schwimmer and Matthew Perry were costars of Friends. It's like this guy is their twisted love-child or something.

Dunno but I associate that name with Shiny Entertainment. You know, Earthworm Jim and MDK. And Messiah and Enter The Matrix... I think he really went off the far end when they were pushing Enter the Matrix like it would be held among the best games ever.

Nick DiMola · « **Reply #9 on:** July 20, 2007, 02:17:53 AM »

Halo is terrible. It's generic, bland and boring as hell. I'll take a PC shooter any day over Halo. I'd rather play Perfect Dark on the N64 with it's 10 FPS before terrible Halo.

Sir_Stabbalot · « **Reply #10 on:** July 20, 2007, 02:51:57 AM »

Halo's main pull is that it doesn't screw anything up and its simple to get online. Now, I agree there are better FPS games, but anyone who says that playing Halo with eight of your buddies isn't a blast is a dirty liar.

couchmonkey · « **Reply #11 on:** July 20, 2007, 06:40:44 AM »

Ha ha. I like Halo but I've always thought it was overrated. There are a couple of great ideas in the series, but there are also plenty of flaws.

Umm...but on Perry's comments about beautiful graphics enticing people away from Wii...DS and PSP have already proven this guy wrong. I don't doubt some core gamers will buy 360s and PS3s in a few years when they're a lot cheaper, but they're not necessarilly going to abandon Wii (how many times have people said they would not go back to golf games that use a regular controller?) and the new gamers simply aren't interested in what those other systems have to offer.

vudu · « **Reply #12 on:** July 20, 2007, 07:14:49 AM »

The single greatest contribution of Halo was mapping the ability to throw grenades to a unique button. Grenades are completely useless in any game where you have to put down your regular weapon in order to select them.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #13 on:** July 20, 2007, 07:54:06 AM »

Team Fortress says hello!

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #14 on:** July 20, 2007, 08:04:44 AM »

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Originally posted by: vudu
The single greatest contribution of Halo was mapping the ability to throw grenades to a unique button. Grenades are completely useless in any game where you have to put down your regular weapon in order to select them.

The 2nd greatest contribution was to lazy game design by using rechargeable health.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #15 on:** July 20, 2007, 09:34:36 AM »

I love rechargable health. I think that game element is brilliant. It allows for players to have intense fire fights, and not have to worry as much about being taken out by an interpoler later. Oh big fire fight, I can quickly get a kill on the survivor.

It also means you can have alittle more strategy in your fight. If you are out gunned you have a good chance of fleeing and setting up an ambush or find support in your allies. Or if you have the big guns, you can push your luck and storm into battle...knowing you can find cover and regenerate your shield.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #16 on:** July 20, 2007, 09:39:30 AM »

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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
I love rechargable health. I think that game element is brilliant. It allows for players to have intense fire fights, and not have to worry as much about being taken out by an interpoler later. Oh big fire fight, I can quickly get a kill on the survivor.

It also means you can have alittle more strategy in your fight. If you are out gunned you have a good chance of fleeing and setting up an ambush or find support in your allies. Or if you have the big guns, you can push your luck and storm into battle...knowing you can find cover and regenerate your shield.

Not to mention making the game infinitely easier and dumbing down the gameplay!

denjet78 · « **Reply #17 on:** July 20, 2007, 09:56:22 AM »

When I first heard that in Halo your life automatically regenerated I thought it was a joke... But it's serious? It really does that? What in the hell kind of game does that??? Might as well just give you infinite health and amunition!

And everyone says Nintendo's the only one making non-games.

SHEISH!

SixthAngel · « **Reply #18 on:** July 20, 2007, 10:09:34 AM »

Rechargeable health was a great idea. It is copied by so many games now as well, call of duty, gears of war and redsteel coming to mind immediately. While it shouldn't be the only way for health it has plenty of great options. It certainly doesn't make the game easier but allows for new options with strategies, enemies and weapons since they are now able to hit you far more in the long run but not the short run without you being killed. It also avoids the need for a medpack every ten feet.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #19 on:** July 20, 2007, 10:16:19 AM »

Denjet: Your health regenerates if you don't take any hits for a while. That won't happen in mid-battle unless you find some cover to stay behind so it's only infinite health over the long term.

vudu · « **Reply #20 on:** July 20, 2007, 10:31:28 AM »

You health doesn't regenerate, you shield does. Since your shield is basically half of your life bar it means that as long as you can find a spot to rest for a few seconds between fights you'll never be with less than half a life bar. While it does make the game pretty easy, it lets you enjoy the game more because you're not so worried about constantly saving and there will never be a point where you're screwed because you saved with an almost empty life bar and no health packs around.

The ability to only carry two guns had a similar effect--since you're constantly switching weapons and leaving others behind you're not so worried about wasting ammo.

However, none of this excuses the fact that the game is overly generic and that the level design is absolutely horrid (in the first game, at any rate).

Kairon · « **Reply #21 on:** July 20, 2007, 10:38:24 AM »

In Halo your HEALTH does NOT regenrate. Your shield does. There are still health packs in Halo games... but that doesn't really matter, because the game gives you free ammo when you die and respawn and a plethora of checkpoints EVERYWHERE in the levels, meaning it's basically the most forgiving FPS single player game out there. Oftentimes in co-op, you and your partner kill each other because you want to stock up on more free ammo, and because death is so inconsequential.

Also, Halo has a BEAUTIFUL loading screen. Just gorgeous.

UltimatePartyBear · « **Reply #22 on:** July 20, 2007, 12:14:42 PM »

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Also, Halo has a BEAUTIFUL loading screen. Just gorgeous.

Wow. That's quite the backhanded compliment.

Kairon · « **Reply #23 on:** July 20, 2007, 12:21:36 PM »

No! Hey! I mean it!

That loading screen was... it was sublime. And Cliffy B. agrees with me on this! I mean, we're Nintendo fans, right? We appreciate the little things, the little touches, the way that we can play around with Mario's face in Mario 64, the way we can fly around cursor on the Star Fox title screen! The Halo 3 loading screen is a little like that: a nice touch, a little thing that adds to the game more than you think it would! It's the sort of thing that get's overlooked 99% of the time, but when it's there, it's contribution is inestimable!

UltimatePartyBear · « **Reply #24 on:** July 20, 2007, 12:44:23 PM »

I'm sure you meant it nicely, but that sounds just like something someone would say about a really bad game when stretching for something positive to say.

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