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No Online for Metroid 3
« on: July 03, 2007, 07:19:35 AM »
"It's something we talked about early on, but we only have so many resources. We opted to devote those resources to making a better single-player experience," he said.

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Thanks nintendo! keep lying to us kiddies! I dont know how i feel about all this lack of nintendo online. they shouldnt even put wifi on the wii and sold it for 100$.  

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RE: No Online for Metroid 3
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2007, 07:26:58 AM »
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Thank you for not wasting your time and instead making the best game you can.

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RE:No Online for Metroid 3
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2007, 07:30:59 AM »
That was the only thing that would have made me consider buying it.

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RE:No Online for Metroid 3
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2007, 07:33:09 AM »
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That was the only thing that would have made me consider buying it.


I may not have finished either Prime or Echoes myself, but I know a non-believer when I see one.  
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RE: No Online for Metroid 3
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2007, 07:50:21 AM »
I wouldn't have minded online multiplayer though I'd take a better overall Metroid game than Echoes over online multiplayer in Metroid any day.

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RE: No Online for Metroid 3
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2007, 07:58:04 AM »
Well nothing surprising here. It is disheartening, but I'm sure the game is going to be awesome regardless. At least it won't be the giant mess that MPH was, where neither the single player nor the multiplayer was very compelling.
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RE: No Online for Metroid 3
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2007, 08:08:39 AM »
what? Nintendo never lied, in fact the denied online from way back when the game was announced, you have only yourself to blame for the dissapointment.
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« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2007, 08:18:44 AM »
WHY DO PEOPLE CARE SO MUCH ABOUT ONLINE!

Does noone like to read a compelling book these days? Or watch a heroic movie by yourself? Why are games so different, especially one that focuses on a LONELY bounty hunter?!

I say good riddance(sp?)!
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RE: No Online for Metroid 3
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2007, 08:25:14 AM »
So sorry all you Halo-Loving poser Metroid fans, but your tears of sadness taste like candy to me.

But seriously, Nintendo/Retro has been saying there wasn't going to be multiplayer in this game for over a year now. This shouldn't surprise anyone even a little.

Just think about it though! Retro has spent the better part of the last three years crafting/refining this game, and likely cramming in more detail, more art, more lighting effects, and more AWESOME into this game, we probably won't see this stuff again until Retro makes another Wii game.

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RE: No Online for Metroid 3
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2007, 08:26:32 AM »
This is when I lose hope for Nintendo fans.

1) Nintendo never said it would come.  It was theorized by game journalists when it was no longer a launch title and through some nebulous remarks by Reggie that said more or less "I can't tell you what Retro is doing."

2) Who cares.  Focus on the single player.  If you want an online shooter so bad, let the FPS muscle that is Retro be flexed in a completely new IP.

Christ people if you want Halo 3 go buy a damn 360.  The Wii aint neva' gon' have it.
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RE: No Online for Metroid 3
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2007, 08:29:13 AM »
Yeah why is this a surprise? As was stated before multiple times above me Nintendo / Retro Studios had previously declared there to be no multiplayer in the game.

They said they wanted to maintain all focus on the single player elements to make sure the game could be as good as it was ever going to be. That's all that matters to me and hey it's a metroid game, it's ALL about the single player experience anyway.

Edit: The only games I will truly be mad at for not being online will be SSBB and the next Mario Kart. So long as MP3 delivers a fantastic one player experience I will be happy.

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RE:No Online for Metroid 3
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2007, 08:43:26 AM »
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That was the only thing that would have made me consider buying it.


Same. Nintendo just sold me a copy of Redsteel 2.

I don't intend to buy a 360 or Halo because I despise the filth that is microsoft, but beyond that, analogue controller-driven FPSes suck a whole pile of sweaty ass.

I want a Wiimote-driven online FPS. I don't care that it's not Metroid. The first company to make one will have my $50 on launch, guaranteed.
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RE:No Online for Metroid 3
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2007, 08:55:45 AM »
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I don't intend to buy a 360 or Halo because I despise the filth that is microsoft, but beyond that, analogue controller-driven FPSes suck a whole pile of sweaty ass.

I want a Wiimote-driven online FPS. I don't care that it's not Metroid. The first company to make one will have my $50 on launch, guaranteed.


QFT.

I really don't understand why everyone is so anti-online. It's not the greatest thing in the world but it sure gives you more bang for your buck and more of a reason to pick up the game and play after the single player has been conquered. Since when is getting more for your money a bad thing? For years and years and years PC game shave included online multi and it carried those games well beyond a normal life-cycle of a game with that single feature.
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RE: No Online for Metroid 3
« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2007, 08:56:05 AM »
It's fine if non-Metroid fans wonder at the lack of multiplayer, and opt to sit this one out. Metroid is actually a pretty hardcore game, almost niche-y, and that should be perfectly fine with those of us who DO love it, and understood and accepted by those of us who don't.
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RE:No Online for Metroid 3
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2007, 08:58:54 AM »
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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother

I don't intend to buy a 360 or Halo because I despise the filth that is microsoft, but beyond that, analogue controller-driven FPSes suck a whole pile of sweaty ass.

I want a Wiimote-driven online FPS. I don't care that it's not Metroid. The first company to make one will have my $50 on launch, guaranteed.


QFT.

I really don't understand why everyone is so anti-online. It's not the greatest thing in the world but it sure gives you more bang for your buck and more of a reason to pick up the game and play after the single player has been conquered. Since when is getting more for your money a bad thing? For years and years and years PC game shave included online multi and it carried those games well beyond a normal life-cycle of a game with that single feature.


We're not anti-online. It's just that Metroid Prime is SO GOD-AWFUL not suited for online at all. (The Metroid universe though...?)

We want to see online done right, not shoe-horned in to become a half-hearted bullet point on a meaningless feature list. And... *shrug* that means no online for Metroid Prime 3.
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« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2007, 08:59:39 AM »
I personally loved Hunters because it gave me the chance to not only play with but TALK TO fellow PGC forumers. Sadly, not many people here will likely buy RS2 so I'll have a smaller pool to draw from.
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RE:No Online for Metroid 3
« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2007, 09:00:27 AM »
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I really don't understand why everyone is so anti-online. It's not the greatest thing in the world but it sure gives you more bang for your buck and more of a reason to pick up the game and play after the single player has been conquered.


Don't get me wrong, or any of us wrong, I don't feel we're 'anti-online' but remember Retro said they cut out the multiplayer aspect to pretty much get the single player aspect as perfect as they can.

So I am happy about no online just because it is guaranteeing a better single player experience. It would be different if they just said "Well we don't like multiplayer so we said screw it this time around", they just want to make the best Matroid experience they can and that's all about single player.

I'm sure an awesome FPS will come along and be online for Wii and I too will buy it but I am not upset that MP3 isn't that game.

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« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2007, 09:00:53 AM »
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I personally loved Hunters because it gave me the chance to not only play with but TALK TO fellow PGC forumers. Sadly, not many people here will likely buy RS2 so I'll have a smaller pool to draw from.


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« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2007, 09:02:00 AM »
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« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2007, 09:02:34 AM »
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I really don't understand why everyone is so anti-online. It's not the greatest thing in the world but it sure gives you more bang for your buck and more of a reason to pick up the game and play after the single player has been conquered.


Don't get me wrong, or any of us wrong, I don't feel we're 'anti-online' but remember Retro said they cut out the multiplayer aspect to pretty much get the single player aspect as perfect as they can.

So I am happy about no online just because it is guaranteeing a better single player experience. It would be different if they just said "Well we don't like multiplayer so we said screw it this time around", they just want to make the best Matroid experience they can and that's all about single player.

I'm sure an awesome FPS will come along and be online for Wii and I too will buy it but I am not upset that MP3 isn't that game.


I would've gladly waited a few more months to have online multiplayer.

EDIT: Just to clarify, I'm not some sort of casual Metroid fan. I am a strong supporter of the series and have played and beat every single Metroid game to ever come out. I just don't see how you can't build multiplayer into the game. Sure the game's focus is around flying solo, but that doesn't really have anything to do with a multiplayer portion of the game. Had Nintendo delayed the game for a few more months and included online multiplayer I'm sure they would've moved a few more copies of the game and satisfied a much larger crowd than just the niche Nintendo fan.  
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« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2007, 09:08:09 AM »
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I really don't understand why everyone is so anti-online. It's not the greatest thing in the world but it sure gives you more bang for your buck and more of a reason to pick up the game and play after the single player has been conquered.


Don't get me wrong, or any of us wrong, I don't feel we're 'anti-online' but remember Retro said they cut out the multiplayer aspect to pretty much get the single player aspect as perfect as they can.

So I am happy about no online just because it is guaranteeing a better single player experience. It would be different if they just said "Well we don't like multiplayer so we said screw it this time around", they just want to make the best Matroid experience they can and that's all about single player.

I'm sure an awesome FPS will come along and be online for Wii and I too will buy it but I am not upset that MP3 isn't that game.


I would've gladly waited a few more months to have online multiplayer.


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RE:No Online for Metroid 3
« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2007, 09:27:39 AM »
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Don't get me wrong, or any of us wrong, I don't feel we're 'anti-online' but remember Retro said they cut out the multiplayer aspect to pretty much get the single player aspect as perfect as they can.

So I am happy about no online just because it is guaranteeing a better single player experience. It would be different if they just said "Well we don't like multiplayer so we said screw it this time around", they just want to make the best Matroid experience they can and that's all about single player.

I'm sure an awesome FPS will come along and be online for Wii and I too will buy it but I am not upset that MP3 isn't that game.


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RE:No Online for Metroid 3
« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2007, 10:28:57 AM »
Truth be told I actually don't mind this at all.  We really don't need another blunder like Metroid Prime Hunters in terms of multiplayer which is exactly what would happen.  If I'm not mistaken Red Steel 2 is supposed to be online and as long as they do a better job this time than they did the last I don't see why that wouldn't be enough.

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« Reply #23 on: July 03, 2007, 10:33:51 AM »
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Originally posted by: darknight06  We really don't need another blunder like Metroid Prime Hunters in terms of multiplayer which is exactly what would happen.


Minus hand cramping and some balance issues, MPH online was AWESOME.

If NST remade hunters on the Wii with Wiimote controls, I'd be insanely happy with it.
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RE: No Online for Metroid 3
« Reply #24 on: July 03, 2007, 10:44:23 AM »
But is it worth it?

Why not use some other IP or make a new one entirely?
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