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RE:It really bothers me that some people do not like Zelda
« Reply #25 on: May 06, 2007, 03:32:11 AM »
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RE: It really bothers me that some people do not like Zelda
« Reply #26 on: May 06, 2007, 03:48:55 AM »
S-U-P-E-R, but why don't you like Zelda games? I'm just curious, because the action-adventure genre is fourth in your list, and I understand how some people just don't like Zelda kind of games as I know a couple of people like that, but I am still curious to know why you don't.

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RE:It really bothers me that some people do not like Zelda
« Reply #27 on: May 06, 2007, 04:20:01 AM »
I loved Zelda games until I finished Ocarina of Time. It seemed really slow paced and a lot more formuliac. I had some fun with it but not enough to play it again, ever, after I finished it. I started Mask of Majora and it seemed just the same and I got bored with it part way in and never played it after that. I think I played Wind Waker for like 30 seconds at E3 and never played it again after that. The new yiffy adventure seemed exactly the same and I don't really plan on playing it ever.

So I guess the short version is that I find them way too boring.

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RE:It really bothers me that some people do not like Zelda
« Reply #28 on: May 06, 2007, 08:19:50 AM »
You're weird.
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RE: It really bothers me that some people do not like Zelda
« Reply #29 on: May 06, 2007, 08:40:57 AM »
See, I could never get into Zelda.  There weren't enough real-time weapon changes for me.  Ugh.

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RE:It really bothers me that some people do not like Zelda
« Reply #30 on: May 06, 2007, 09:18:18 AM »
Personally, I DO feel like the formula is changing.

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RE:It really bothers me that some people do not like Zelda
« Reply #31 on: May 06, 2007, 03:52:07 PM »
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Maybe this list will help you guys understand where I come from in my gaming tastes. By now, I've played over 1000 video games and I'm pretty tired of long, easy games.

The top four up there are games in the purest form, I think. Full of skill and pwn.

I respect your position. I'd probably feel the same way, if I didn't suck at games.

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Adventure games, LOL. http://www.oldmanmurray.com/features/77.html - I guess if that DS game with the party van bait and the ghost sidekick was an adventure game, that was pretty good.

Trace Memory? Yeah, that's an adventure game. As is Touch Detective, and Hotel Dusk. The best adventure game on the DS, though, is Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney.

I like adventure games, partly because their non-violent, puzzle-oriented gameplay appeals to my pacifist sensibilities, but mainly because I have terrible reflexes.

As far as that old man murray article - eh. Bad/illogical puzzles are a big problem with the genre. The worst thing about bad puzzles is that they don't just hurt the games they appear in. To really enjoy an adventure game, you need to be able to trust that, if you're stuck on a puzzle for an hour, it's because you're being stupid, and not because the game is poorly designed. It's hard to do that when you've been burned by bad puzzles in the past.

...But, still. There are a ton of good adventure games out there. I'm not sure if 'adventure' is my favorite video game genre (I know I just said it was, but I'm high on the excellent Sam & Max: Season One right now. If I just beat a Zelda game, I'd probably be going on about how great action-adventure games are) - but it is, in my opinion, certainly a worthy one.
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RE: It really bothers me that some people do not like Zelda
« Reply #32 on: May 06, 2007, 11:09:06 PM »
Adventure Games > ALL.

Out of This World, DoTT, Monkey Island, and Fatty Bear's Birthday Surprise were all that I needed to cement the genre in my childhood memories even though I wouldn't play another adventure game for years. Then Phoenix Wright came along to remind me that the best games weren't only going to be in the past, they'd be in the future as well.

Seriously, Adventure games are great not only because of their non-violent properties (EXTREMELY RARE in videogames) and because they can be a channel for excellent writing (though this is hit-and-miss) but also because their problem-solving emphasis appeals to everything that it means to be human, sentient, creative and intelligent.

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RE:It really bothers me that some people do not like Zelda
« Reply #33 on: May 07, 2007, 12:43:59 AM »
I'm not sure if Phoenix Wright can really be classified as an adventure game, seeing as you rarely go anywhere o_O

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RE: It really bothers me that some people do not like Zelda
« Reply #34 on: May 07, 2007, 05:45:52 AM »
I guess they should just be classified as "Point and Clicks," but it's so much easier to just say Adventure... =3
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RE: It really bothers me that some people do not like Zelda
« Reply #35 on: May 07, 2007, 05:54:07 AM »
I remember when the challenge of adventure games was knowing what to cryptic command to type

Use key
I'm sorry I don't know how to 'Use'
Use key in lock
I'm sorry I don't know how to 'Use'
Turn key
I'm sorry I don't know how to 'Turn'
Just use the freaking key!!!!
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RE: It really bothers me that some people do not like Zelda
« Reply #36 on: May 07, 2007, 06:26:39 AM »
Apparently, this also bothers Miyamoto...
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