Author Topic: Windows Vista: Why? (Read 23920 times)

vudu · « **Reply #50 on:** January 25, 2007, 06:13:22 AM »

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Originally posted by: Professional 666
DIRECTORY TREES ARE AWESOME.

Seriously.

What does Vista have against directory trees?

Even though I run XP I still use the classic start menu and the classic theme. That blue and green crap with its rounded corners insulted my intelligence. Grey boxes FTW.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #51 on:** January 25, 2007, 06:33:07 AM »

^ The light of truth shines thru.

Smoke39 · « **Reply #52 on:** January 25, 2007, 09:23:07 AM »

I'm too leet for grey. My colors are customized.

Ceric · « **Reply #53 on:** January 25, 2007, 11:00:02 AM »

I wish you could full customize the GUI from the get go. Personally I want my Start Menu and Time in the top middle. My Program Bar on the bottom and my System Tray on the right side. That's how my Linux setup was and I liked it. It took me lots of tweaking to settle on the configuration.

MarioAllStar · « **Reply #54 on:** January 25, 2007, 12:05:31 PM »

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Originally posted by: Smoke39
I'm too leet for grey. My colors are customized.

Ion3 on a development version of NetBSD for AMD64. I'm too leet for Windows.

Ok, I have a dual boot system and use Windows 2000 for homework and multimedia, but I use NetBSD for fun stuff (nerd stuff) and day-to-day use. During school breaks, I rarely have any reason to use Windows at all. Of course, if I was a gamer or into multimedia, I would be using Windows (or even Linux) more often.

BigJim · « **Reply #55 on:** January 25, 2007, 05:35:33 PM »

I use Windows Explorer constantly. I like my directory trees.

AND my Classic gray color scheme.

Vista is a dud. I have it (the final version) on another computer. Seriously, wait at least for the Service Pack to come towards the end of the year if you have a choice. This thing is a step back.

There was an article somewhere blasting Vista's usability hit. Can't find it now, but they were dead on. "Add and Remove Programs" is now called "Programs and Features." (Like that's supposed to make more sense?) Changing your wallpaper is now hidden under Personalization, while Mouse Pointers still has it's own menu item... There's just some really stupid stuff here. It's like they're rushing code so hardcore that they skipped usability almost entirely.

Not to mention many anti-virus programs don't work.

Edit: Oh yeah, speaking of usability, IE7 also sucks. Why are the buttons all over the place? Why is Forward/Back on the far left side of the menu, Refresh/Stop towards the middle right, Home/Tools on the far right, etc...

austinrock000 · « **Reply #56 on:** January 25, 2007, 06:50:29 PM »

Funny...I open My Computer and right at the top there is an option for "Uninstall or change a program". And really, is "Personalize" really that much different from "Display Options" or whatever it was in XP? You still get to it by right-clicking the desktop. Everyone likes to go out of their way to bash Vista, and most of them have no idea what other features there are besides the redesigned GUI. I won't go into anything long-winded about it because I've tried that already, people don't want to listen.

Oh, I should mention that I'm running Vista Ultimate.

Kairon · « **Reply #57 on:** January 26, 2007, 04:54:35 AM »

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Originally posted by: austinrock000
Funny...I open My Computer and right at the top there is an option for "Uninstall or change a program". And really, is "Personalize" really that much different from "Display Options" or whatever it was in XP? You still get to it by right-clicking the desktop. Everyone likes to go out of their way to bash Vista, and most of them have no idea what other features there are besides the redesigned GUI. I won't go into anything long-winded about it because I've tried that already, people don't want to listen.

Oh, I should mention that I'm running Vista Ultimate.

Confirmed:

-Vista will sell on "potential"
-A steal considering all the technology inside of it
-379 U.S. Dollars (for the non-gimped version)
-Hardcore computer users will buy Vista
-Developers will never use 100% of Vista 's power

and so forth...

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Flames_of_chaos · « **Reply #58 on:** January 26, 2007, 05:56:31 AM »

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Confirmed:

-Vista will sell on "potential"
-A steal considering all the technology inside of it
-379 U.S. Dollars (for the non-gimped version)
-Hardcore computer users will buy Vista
-Developers will never use 100% of Vista 's power

and so forth...

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Is it me or the three I bolded sound like the PS3 right now how it sells on potential, its a steal for what's inside it and developers will never max out the platform?

I still cant believe theres 6 versions of the same OS it seems a little rediculous. I think I'll stick with XP for a while until I buy a another PC that will probably have Vista packed in or I'll say screw it and venture off to Linux land.

IceCold · « **Reply #59 on:** January 26, 2007, 06:12:31 AM »

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Is it me or the three I bolded sound like the PS3 right now how it sells on potential, its a steal for what's inside it and developers will never max out the platform?

I think that's what he was going for

JonLeung · « **Reply #60 on:** January 29, 2007, 07:07:28 AM »

Vista officially launches for North American consumers tomorrow, doesn't it?

It took me a while to get to XP. Vista sounds like something I'd get at some point, but only after it's been around for a little bit and all the kinks are worked out.

I think operating systems like Windows are too expensive. They could probably get away with it if it was something we absolutely needed (even though I still think that's unfair) but if XP (or even older versions) are sufficient, I'm hesitant to plop down the few hundred bucks now. Unfortunately I'm guessing it's not going to be significantly cheaper in a few years, though. >_<

If the original Xbox cost Microsoft a few billion, why don't they sell Vista at a loss? That'll get it into more homes a lot quicker.

vudu · « **Reply #61 on:** January 29, 2007, 07:53:30 AM »

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If the original Xbox cost Microsoft a few billion, why don't they sell Vista at a loss? That'll get it into more homes a lot quicker.

Microsoft relies on Windows to fund Xbox. If they didn't make money on Windows they'd be in a heap of trouble.

Ceric · « **Reply #62 on:** January 30, 2007, 07:21:05 AM »

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Originally posted by: vudu
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If the original Xbox cost Microsoft a few billion, why don't they sell Vista at a loss? That'll get it into more homes a lot quicker.
Microsoft relies on Windows to fund Xbox. If they didn't make money on Windows they'd be in a heap of trouble.

Yep, Plus Microsoft sells Vista for a relative loss all the time. OEMs and Partners of any sort get a steep discount on copies, think paying 10% the price. In all actuality that be like Nintendo taking a loss on the DS just because. Microsoft has this particular market and will until Apple releases OSX for general computers or someone makes an OS that is leaps and bounds better then Windows in every way and is compatible with programs developed for Windows.

Ceric · « **Reply #63 on:** January 31, 2007, 08:23:28 AM »

It seems that the third path here lets OpenGL be OpenGL but the kits need to get out I think

Someone mentioned it earlier and I thought it was interesting what they said in the article.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #64 on:** February 02, 2007, 05:06:26 AM »

The Top Reasons Why Vista is a Winner

Ceric · « **Reply #65 on:** February 02, 2007, 09:39:32 AM »

Wow, 1983 for Widgets... Can we say really really wrong... They weren't a glimmer in anyones eye... Even for sarcasm thats stretching it... I go late 90's at the farthest.

Also I totally disagree with the start menu search. It is much much better then Google Desktop.

UltimatePartyBear · « **Reply #66 on:** February 02, 2007, 09:48:37 AM »

According to wikipedia, the term "widget" for an element of a computer GUI first appeared during Project Athena, which began in 1983.

Athrun Zala · « **Reply #67 on:** February 02, 2007, 11:43:58 AM »

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Is vista any better than Linux?

lol, no, and it'll never be....

Ceric · « **Reply #68 on:** February 02, 2007, 01:54:24 PM »

Really. I'm sort of surprised by that. Though what was project Athena? Is it the same type of widget we know today.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #69 on:** February 20, 2007, 07:45:00 AM »

I have spent over 5 hours working with the new Vista operating system trying to get the Sprint Mobile Broadband working on it for my dad's computer.

After finally finding all the device drivers I needed, and software updates for Vista it still wouldn't open a java applet for his stocks. It was driving me crazy.

I had finally got it online and it looked as if it was working beautifully...but it wasn't.

Finally, I realized the problem...and just downloaded FireFox 2.0 and a java add-on for FireFox...now it works fine.

The time I spent with Vista I can tell it will be amazing, after all the kinks are worked out. Normally I would just say its too new and give it time...yet XP didn't seem to have these problems as bad...nor does anything Apple create. I blame Microsoft for not working closer and harder with 3rd party developers to get all necessary drivers and software updates ready before launch. Vista could have easily waited until Spring or Summer for a launch and had everything smoother and tighter than it currently is.

That said, I love the look of the OS, and it does appear to access and run the internet smoother and quicker than before.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #70 on:** February 20, 2007, 07:49:29 AM »

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Originally posted by: Professional 666
The Top Reasons Why Vista is a Winner

haha, awesome...

Ceric · « **Reply #71 on:** February 20, 2007, 09:42:24 AM »

Spak Microsoft tried to delay it till it was done but people started calling for blood.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #72 on:** February 20, 2007, 03:40:27 PM »

Ceric: Ha. Microsoft shouldn't have given in...or they should have worked earlier with their partners to get things working quicker and easier sooner.

Oh well. I am not going to hate on the system like others have. It isn't a bad OS, and despite how easy it is to hate on MS...I think this OS has a bright future.

Is it Apple good? Probably not...but is it better than what is out their for Windows land? Most definitely...it just needs time to grow and bloom.

oohhboy · « **Reply #73 on:** February 20, 2007, 05:18:51 PM »

If they had delayed any longer, OSX 10.5 would have came out and laid waste to what ever MS had going for them. They are using the same meathods for the windows launch as they did with the 360. Launch now and sort it out later.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #74 on:** February 20, 2007, 06:12:57 PM »

I hear Ps3 isn't a bad console. Why should I be quick to adopt it?

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