Author Topic: Eye of Sauron Turns Towards Nintendo (Read 12648 times)

couchmonkey · « **on:** January 10, 2007, 07:09:41 AM »

Ha ha ha, excuse the dramatic title. Thing is, Bill Gates has recently stated that Nintendo will be Microsoft's toughest competition. This is a complete about-face from the early 360 days where Nintendo was a "niche" company that had it's little cult following, and nothing more. I think this also marks the first time any of the competing execs have openly acknowledged that Nintendo is a major threat.

Nintendo got all the way through the front door before anyone said anything.

nitsu niflheim · « **Reply #1 on:** January 10, 2007, 07:28:27 AM »

The worse thing that one can do is completely write off someone else because they assume that they have become irrelevant. Nintendo has proven to them that they are not to be trifled with.

TrueNerd · « **Reply #2 on:** January 10, 2007, 08:32:52 AM »

This could be MS recognizing Nintendo as a legit competitor in this round, or it could simply be yet someone else kicking Sony while they're down.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #3 on:** January 10, 2007, 08:45:38 AM »

The title of this thread is 100% accurate. My hat is off.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #4 on:** January 11, 2007, 01:15:51 AM »

My mental image is MS and Nintendo both standing with their weapons drawn, waiting for the big dragon Sony to emerge. Sony appears but turns out to be half a metre high and uses crutches to walk. MS and Nintendo burst into laughter, when they're done they start fighting each other.

couchmonkey · « **Reply #5 on:** January 11, 2007, 03:59:34 AM »

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This could be MS recognizing Nintendo as a legit competitor in this round, or it could simply be yet someone else kicking Sony while they're down.

This is quite true, I think it's a bit of both. I think MS loves any chance to kick Sony while it's down, because PS3 matches 360's functionality much more closely than Wii.

Still, we've seen it at E3, we've seen it at launch, and we're seeing it right now with Wii continuing to outsell PS3 even after PS3 supply has caught up with demand: Wii is a hot item, it's running on the same strategy as DS, and I think Gates is starting to take notice.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #6 on:** January 11, 2007, 04:56:57 AM »

While it is good that Nintendo can be acknowledged in this way I was kind of hoping that MS wouldn't notice so soon so that Nintendo could sneak up on them and gain some ground while they're unprepared. If MS considers Nintendo a threat then it's going to be a harder battle for Nintendo.

vudu · « **Reply #7 on:** January 11, 2007, 06:01:54 AM »

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The title of this thread is 100% accurate. My hat is off.

I don't get it. Are you calling Iwata a hobbit? Is the Wii a ring? Who's Sony? I'm so confused.

nitsu niflheim · « **Reply #8 on:** January 11, 2007, 06:11:14 AM »

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While it is good that Nintendo can be acknowledged in this way I was kind of hoping that MS wouldn't notice so soon so that Nintendo could sneak up on them and gain some ground while they're unprepared. If MS considers Nintendo a threat then it's going to be a harder battle for Nintendo.

No it's not. MS can't emulate what Nintendo has done because they have tried so hard to distance themselves from what Nintendo has done that all they will do is alienate their already established consumer base. Xbox and Xbox 360 owners have already made clear what kind of games they want, and outside of that they don't, pretty much, give a damn. Nintendo can offer those kind of games, plus more, and they will sell.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #9 on:** January 11, 2007, 06:21:08 AM »

I'm kinda worried that MS, after seeing one of the Japanese giants go down, will start throwing out even bigger moneyhats in an attempt to buy up developers who can no longer turn to Sony for sales but might still be leery of Nintendo.

One of the reasons I refuse to support MS is because of the sh*thole the gaming industry would be with them in first place. Imagine if EA made and set the standards for all games and that's what MS would be doing.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #10 on:** January 11, 2007, 06:25:17 AM »

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Originally posted by: vudu I don't get it. Are you calling Iwata a hobbit? Is the Wii a ring? Who's Sony? I'm so confused.

Iwata is actually rather tall for a Japanese man.

As for the rest of the references, the hobbits would be the justice department and the ring would be the anti-monopoly suit which, of course, means the ring never made it into Mt. Doom.

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No it's not. MS can't emulate what Nintendo has done because they have tried so hard to distance themselves from what Nintendo has done that all they will do is alienate their already established consumer base. Xbox and Xbox 360 owners have already made clear what kind of games they want, and outside of that they don't, pretty much, give a damn. Nintendo can offer those kind of games, plus more, and they will sell.

MS's mantra is "rip off early, rip off often". If the Wii starts stomping them in the market, they're going to release their own version of the Wiimote and start trying to push developers to make games for it.

They've been playing that game with Apple for around 20 years now.

Mario · « **Reply #11 on:** January 11, 2007, 06:51:12 AM »

I agree with Ian, but I think this comment is mainly aimed at Sony.

segagamer12 · « **Reply #12 on:** January 11, 2007, 07:58:05 PM »

MS still has one thing going for it Wii hasnt quit cought upwith and thast the online gaming. Once Wii gets online gaming and if it works out like people are hoping 360 is going to start to lose a lot of its appeal.

couchmonkey · « **Reply #13 on:** January 12, 2007, 03:26:25 AM »

I think it's going to be really interesting to see how Microsoft reacts. If Gates is sincere, then we may see something like the Wiimote come to 360 as an "extra" peripheral later this year. I don't think that'll be enough. But I do think MS still sees Sony as the main threat to Xbox 360 and the home PC market, so I imagine MS will keep going down the same road with 360, fighting Sony, while throwing in some half-measures to try to slow down Nintendo.

Ceric · « **Reply #14 on:** January 12, 2007, 06:28:57 AM »

Here we go for an analogy. (This is from the evolution of the text)

Sony: Mordor
MS: The Realm of Man
Nintendo: The Shire and other lands of Hobbits.

It's a pretty close fit. The Hobbits didn't originally have a Ring of Power. In Fact Sega could be the Elves for that matter... Actually I need to go back and read the rhyme to get this totally correct.

couchmonkey · « **Reply #15 on:** January 12, 2007, 08:21:11 AM »

Hee hee, we're nerds.

segagamer12 · « **Reply #16 on:** January 12, 2007, 09:48:46 AM »

Ok it was Lord of the Rings. I havent seen it since it was new so I wsnt sure what was being referenced. Ok I dont remember LOTR much so whats the reference again?

KDR_11k · « **Reply #17 on:** January 12, 2007, 06:10:46 PM »

Read it up on Wikipedia.

wandering · « **Reply #18 on:** January 12, 2007, 11:12:18 PM »

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Actually I need to go back and read the rhyme to get this totally correct.

That's okay, I have it memorized.

Three rings for the elven kings under the sky
Seven for the dwarf lords in their halls of stone
Nine for mortal men doomed to die
One ring for the dark lord on his dark throne
In the land of Mordor where the shadows lie
One ring to rule them all
One ring to find them
One ring to bring them all
And in the darkness bind them
In the land of Mordor where the shadows lie

(If the Wii is Aragorn, I think Frodo and Sam would have to be the PSP and PS3. The ring represents games - which Sony is trying to destroy with Blu ray movies and other such things (ie, the fires of doom), and Nintendo is trying to destroy with non-games (also the fires of doom). Microsoft is trying to use the power of games to take over all the land, but when games are destroyed, Microsoft will crumble, and Apple, Inc. (men), Nintendo (Elves), and Linux (Dwarves) will reign.)

oohhboy · « **Reply #19 on:** January 13, 2007, 12:31:34 AM »

Wow. That is an ungodly amount of nerd in that reply. Must resist...

wandering · « **Reply #20 on:** January 22, 2007, 11:34:28 AM »

Resist what, beating me up?

Ceric · « **Reply #21 on:** January 23, 2007, 01:22:53 PM »

Frodo and Sam cannot be PSP and PS3

TrueNerd · « **Reply #22 on:** January 25, 2007, 06:43:01 PM »

Could someone give me the equivalent of all this LotR stuff as a Star Wars reference instead?

segagamer12 · « **Reply #23 on:** January 26, 2007, 08:29:51 AM »

360 is palpatine, wii is vader, and poor ps3 is mace windu

You should know what scene I am refering to.

Ceric · « **Reply #24 on:** January 26, 2007, 09:13:11 AM »

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Could someone give me the equivalent of all this LotR stuff as a Star Wars reference instead?

Dear TrueNerd,

Here at the Society for the Certification of Nerds hereby deem that thee must turn in you Pocket Protector and High Level Clearance. Even Nerds that hate Star Wars or Tolkiens now the references. Being as benevolent as we are you are hereby on Probation until you may prove that your knowledge has been properly expanded and will come in with the rank of Nerdling-In-Training.

Sincerely,

SoCoN

;P

PS- Watch Tron too while your at it.

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