Author Topic: Phoenix Wright ACE ATTORNEY Justice For All (Read 13084 times)

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #25 on:** June 29, 2007, 07:44:59 AM »

Second case is even better...Last case is the most painful thing ever made! (in a good way!)

vudu · « **Reply #26 on:** June 29, 2007, 07:59:00 AM »

What's up with ShyGuy and I playing the same damn DS games months after they come out? I just beat Hotel Dusk last night and I'm starting on Phoenix Wright 2 this weekend.

ShyGuy · « **Reply #27 on:** June 29, 2007, 09:07:39 AM »

STOP USING YOUR VUDU MAGIC

GET OUT OF MY HEAD!

I like bumping these older game threads, I think the discussion is much more interesting after more people have had a chance to pickup the game and play it a while.

Most game threads are hot the months leading up to release because forumites are in there wildly speculating and complaining about games they have never played. Once it's out, hardtime-longcore, people like Bill and Pro beat the game in the first weekend of release and stop talking about it.

IceCold · « **Reply #28 on:** July 07, 2007, 08:43:49 PM »

I've played the first two cases of Justice for All, and it's just terrible so far.. especially compared to the first game.

Terrible.

vudu · « **Reply #29 on:** July 08, 2007, 06:11:58 AM »

I just beat episode two this morning and I have to say I disagree with you. Yeah, it doesn't feel at ... "fresh" as the first game, but only because it's so similar. However, it's not terrible by any means.

I thought the story was really clever in the first one. Phoenix losing his memory allowed the episode to have a sort of tutorial feeling without seeming completely out of place now that he's a big-shot attorney.

The second episode was well constructed in that there weren't many instances where I had no idea what I had to do next. There were many times (especially in court) towards the end of the first game where I knew the truth but I didn't have any clue what piece of evidence to present in order to get the right answer. I never had that problem during the second episode of Justice For All. I'm eagerly anticipating the third episode, which I'll probably start up this afternoon.

Shecky · « **Reply #30 on:** July 08, 2007, 06:37:58 AM »

I think vudu puts it nicely. The later cases in both games tend to have situations where things might not be obvious, but that's about one of the only ways they can try to make those cases more difficult. I do believe the final cases in the second game had a bit more "evidence that's related but isn't" unfortunately. Meaning that if you think of an answer to the question at hand and present something that makes logical sense to discredit it it may still not take b/c there is another piece of evidence that is actually the trigger - which then usually leads to pheonix automatically presenting what you originally put up.

I've hooked 3 people on these games not including myself. The biggest problem I see is people overthinking, getting ahead of themselves, and not keeping evidence in context of the current court's understanding of it.

IceCold · « **Reply #31 on:** July 18, 2007, 07:00:10 PM »

I finished the game, and my opinion of it has improved marginally.. There's no doubt that the stories were as good as ever, and the Magatama helped somewhat break the investigation routine of Move-Talk-Present-Talk-Move but I just didn't enjoy the game as much, especially the first part. I don't think it's because I'm getting bored of the formula, but since the Edgeworth case I haven't really been having fun with the franchise.

Though some of the humour in the last case especially was great - like Gumshoe telling Pearl to stay away from whips.. I have to disagree with Bill, though - I didn't find the last case stressful, as he put it, at all.. You could see the ending come from a mile away, and since you already knew the truth all you needed to do was buy some time. Usually you uncover secrets during the trial, but this one was quite dull.

Also, the Edgeworth storyline was very disjointed. Even if you disregard "Rise from the Ashes" since it was never part of the original series, his whole reasoning for leaving for a year was messed up. They made it seem like after he was acquitted and von Karma was caught, he had made peace with himself, and he even wanted to trade spots with Phoenix to become a defense attorney. There wasn't even a hint that he was so troubled that he would take a year off to find himself and his purpose.

Maya's drawing on the card at the end was touching, though

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #32 on:** July 18, 2007, 07:14:40 PM »

"I have to disagree with Bill, though - I didn't find the last case stressful, as he put it, at all.. You could see the ending come from a mile away, and since you already knew the truth all you needed to do was buy some time."

Hmmph, I never said it was stressful as in difficult...It was stressful in the sense that you were defending a killer to buy time...And I really love my characters, so I'll personally feel more anxiety in a case with Maya on the line than some random person... =)

ShyGuy · « **Reply #33 on:** July 23, 2007, 06:53:59 AM »

So, any official word on what role Phoenix Wright plays in the upcoming 4th game?

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #34 on:** July 23, 2007, 06:58:55 AM »

Yeah, but it's a spoiler...

Defendant in Apollo Justice's (if that is the final name of the new attorney) first case, and "advisor" for the rest of the game...

IceCold · « **Reply #35 on:** July 23, 2007, 07:31:35 PM »

When does Trials and Tribulations come out?

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #36 on:** July 23, 2007, 07:47:12 PM »

IGN says September and EB says October 23rd...So I don't think there is an actual set date yet... =\

ShyGuy · « **Reply #37 on:** July 25, 2007, 05:46:12 AM »

On the third case now. Maya is awesome with her fangirl ways.

ShyGuy · « **Reply #38 on:** August 06, 2007, 05:16:27 AM »

"In West Clownadelphia born and raised" that is AWESOME.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #39 on:** August 06, 2007, 09:56:44 AM »

*stays away from stated city at all costs*

ShyGuy · « **Reply #40 on:** October 21, 2007, 05:02:02 PM »

Objection!! I mean, Bump!!

Finally finished the game. BIll was right, the last case was very stressful. The ending was great and I thought it tied things up well. Edgeworth is the man, no doubt.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #41 on:** October 22, 2007, 05:29:52 AM »

Took you forever! And just in time, too!

ShyGuy · « **Reply #42 on:** October 22, 2007, 08:15:49 AM »

I got stuck in a few places. The final trial goes on forever. I chose guilty both times, anyone choose not guilty for the last client?

IceCold · « **Reply #43 on:** October 22, 2007, 08:34:15 AM »

It's the same both ways. He realises that if he's not guilty he'll be killed, and it cuts to the self-scratching part where he confesses

Maya's drawing was touching.

ShyGuy · « **Reply #44 on:** October 22, 2007, 08:58:45 AM »

I think I chose guilty mostly because Edgeworth deserved the win

Shecky · « **Reply #45 on:** October 22, 2007, 02:35:14 PM »

If you call him "Not Guilty" I think the defendant himself calls out an objection ... which is kind of funny. The real "decision" of "what kind of lawyer are you" came a bit earlier... and is mostly self reflecting.

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