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« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2007, 10:52:38 AM »
Wait segagamer! MS may be even worse than sony...

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« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2007, 11:01:18 AM »
Ya no sh!t!

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« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2007, 11:01:28 AM »
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« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2007, 11:04:54 AM »
no I didnt mena a microsoft hdplayer justa  360. I already know I like enough games ot want one.  
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RE:It's official. PS3 is made of fail.
« Reply #29 on: January 02, 2007, 01:01:52 PM »
the 'playstation' babies mentioned b4 still go ga-ga for anything sony. despite providing one of my best friends 2 little brothers with hours of fun on a recent road trip to boston with my ds's they still both asked for and got psp's for christmas when I inquired as to why the first answer I got was u can watch movies on it. after explaining the tedious manner in which this was done, the next answer was it has good sports games the ds doesn't hav after explaining what multiplatform is they finally admitted they got them bcuz their friends all have them.

I felt sorry for them, I also felt bad telling them that they received a soon to be dead system.

at the very least they want a 360 and games for b-day presents and not ps3 hopefully I can get my wii to their house b4 the 28th of this month.
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« Reply #30 on: January 02, 2007, 01:12:40 PM »
Sorry for the double post, but i left that first message with my phone, but now i'm home and can continue with my thought.

With PS3's and 360's(to a lesser degree) collecting dust, and I still have to share a Wii with my brother until friday *cry*. I wonder how long it will take for Sony to bow out of the console race? Would they dare try to release another system? If so how soon would they have to do it, they would probably want to make it come out before Xbox720 (actually i'm betting they add a word this time, like revolution or something along those lines) rushing it before it's ready (just like last year (almost said this year 2007 is weird)) and failing miserably. I wonder if they would have the decency to bow out gracefully, or would they just keep throwing money at people.

Long live the Wii. Do your part people!! Spread the word, use myspace or whateverthehell to tell people of the defeat of the giant!
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« Reply #31 on: January 02, 2007, 01:36:26 PM »
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How big are the Blu-Ray PS3 games? Could they be ported to a DVD or turned into a multidisc game?


Well Resistance is technically "22GB" but in reality 17.75GB of it is padding. (blu-ray was supposed to be able to read over the entire disk without needing padding and just prove one more sony's lie about blu-ray/ps3.) Resistance can fit on a single layer dvd if garbage file is remove.  Other ps3 games could fit on dvd if the game were compressed, so a dvd ps3 is possible but it's never happing.
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« Reply #32 on: January 02, 2007, 03:04:12 PM »
I thought the 17.5 GB of padding was proven false, more like 200-300 MBs?

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« Reply #33 on: January 02, 2007, 03:32:21 PM »
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I thought the 17.5 GB of padding was proven false, more like 200-300 MBs?


420MB per region, persay the people who initially reported the "17.75GB padding" tidbit:

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/11/26/resistance-17-75gb-of-garbage/
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RE: It's official. PS3 is made of fail.
« Reply #34 on: January 02, 2007, 03:59:23 PM »
I saw someone return 2 PS3s to Wal-Mart yesterday (couldn't turn a profit on them/couldn't sell, period), although I think someone bought both of them about 5 minutes later, even though there's a "1 per person" deal with all of the new systems. They must have needed the sale =(
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RE: It's official. PS3 is made of fail.
« Reply #35 on: January 03, 2007, 03:02:10 AM »
On the topic of Blu-ray-less PS3s...besides Ian's point that Sony will refuse to give up on Blu-ray anyway (absolutely true), they've still got the Cell Processor in there.  I don't know much about Cell, but I've heard some claims (perhaps from KDR?) that it's a big factor in the price, too.  Sony crammed a bunch of bleeding-edge technology in thinking that the Playstation name would turn it all to gold, but at E3 2006 it became clear that Sony wasn't giving consumers what they wanted.

I don't think buying HD DVD is going to make a huge difference to Sony, I think both formats are screwed.  But that's just my guess.
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RE:It's official. PS3 is made of fail.
« Reply #36 on: January 03, 2007, 04:00:48 AM »
I just want to boycot them alltogether now. They keep screwing me over on other fronts, music biz related, and I am geting tired of thier BS.


Other than that gettign a 360 instead of ps3 which I wouldnt get a ps3 anywyas but gettign a 360 will screw them a bit cuz its one more sale for MS and thier games and one less sale for Sony and thier crap.

I already got the Wii and as its apparant that online isnt gonna happen anytime soon Ill get the 360 anbd play the awesome games I wanted for that already and play the offline Wii games as they trickle out.  
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« Reply #37 on: January 03, 2007, 04:29:13 AM »
I'm not sure if the Cell is a big factor in the per-unit price but the R&D budget for the thing was enormous.

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« Reply #38 on: January 03, 2007, 04:53:26 AM »
I forgot about the Cell, thast was the ONLY thing attracting me and my friends to the system i the first place. Ok silly question, does Ps3 still come with Linux or was that put to rest a while back? I cant find anything on that subject.

I cant beleive I still have friends who want a a ps3.  
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« Reply #39 on: January 03, 2007, 05:16:41 AM »
You can install Linux on it but for that kind of money you could almost get a Mac which is just as bad of an idea.

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RE: It's official. PS3 is made of fail.
« Reply #40 on: January 03, 2007, 05:47:06 AM »
Wii online not anytime soon = March (2 months).
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« Reply #41 on: January 03, 2007, 06:17:35 AM »
yeah but 360 is NOW. Plus I already want too many games for it to pass it up. I still dont think Nintendo will take it seriously enough but I will still try the games they do get going.

See how badly ps3 sucks when all its topics get turned into 360 discussions. stupid sony.
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« Reply #42 on: January 03, 2007, 06:42:06 AM »
I dunno...both Xboxes' libraries are way too much like "you can get this on a PC as well".  :P

Sure, there's Dead Rising on the Xbox 360 but that's about all I'm interested in and it's not worth it for that.  I always get a lot of "why wait another couple years for Halo 2 on Windows Vista when you could've played it last year?" kind of statements but I always think "why spend the money on another console now?", especially considering I'd be upgrading my PC down the line anyway?  It's not like decent graphics cards cost more than consoles anymore.  Microsoft is stupid when it comes to exclusives - at least towards people like me.

Not that I support Sony either.  I'd more rather Sony goes down because they're number one and don't deserve to be.  If Sony ever dropss out of the games market you can bet I'll totally make a bigger deal about Microsoft's genericity and non-exclusivity.

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« Reply #43 on: January 03, 2007, 06:47:40 AM »
for me its is all about Dead Rising and Chrome Hounds, and that new Mech game from Sega and the Sonic the Hedgehog I wont get on ps3. Oh and Halo 3 since I have been playing 2 a lot lately. And I still want fear and quake 4 and I dont upgrade my pc cuz I dont play pc games that much.  
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« Reply #44 on: January 03, 2007, 07:06:22 AM »
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for me its is all about Dead Rising and Chrome Hounds, and that new Mech game from Sega and the Sonic the Hedgehog I wont get on ps3. Oh and Halo 3 since I have been playing 2 a lot lately. And I still want fear and quake 4 and I dont upgrade my pc cuz I dont play pc games that much.
Perhaps not, but it seems you sure want to play them at least one a 360.  Better Mech games are available on PC.  Sonic for 360 is pretty horrible, from what I hear.  FEAR and Quake 4 are both available for PC in better forms than on 360.

I'm not going to try to dissuade you from purchasing a 360, but I would like to point out that if those are the games you most want to play you might be able to play the same games for the same price (not to mention you'll also have an upgraded PC that can run Firefox 2.0 It has built-in spellcheck.) by buying a new video card/processor/RAM/whatever you need.
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« Reply #45 on: January 03, 2007, 08:10:19 AM »
I was thinking of getting a 360 for Fifa 2007 only...

It is by far the best soccer simulator to date, reviews be damned (I haven't read any reviews though).

Gears of War pales in comparison.










PALES IN COMPARISON.

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« Reply #46 on: January 03, 2007, 08:37:02 AM »
those are the only reaons I want to play Halo 3 online agianst my friends cuz i been doing a lot of Halo 2 playhing agaisnt my friends, plus i want to get arcade perfect MK games and Live has those and VC doesnt.  
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« Reply #47 on: January 03, 2007, 08:59:51 AM »
*coughMAMEcough*

I don't really like the PC vs. Console gamer nonsense (I even made a thread of it somewhere here) especially since I play a lot of PC games that are also console games but don't play many PC-specific genres like RTSes or a lot of FPSes.  So despite being in front of the PC fairly often I'd say I'm in the console camp (go Nintendo!), however, when comparing a PC to either Xbox specifically, a PC to me is an obvious choice.  If the Xbox had more exclusive games, that'd be a different story, but geez, even Microsoft's own also come to the PC eventually.

Games were never hard to install on a computer - and thanks to Plug-and-Play and autodetection of settings and homogenizations and standards and other improvements in PC gaming in the past, I dunno, DECADE, it's really hard for me to believe it when people tell me it's so much easier to play games on a console.  Yeah, it's easier, but it's not like playing the PC version is so difficult that it's not worth infinite saves, screenshot-taking, modability, etc.  And console gaming isn't cheaper either...maybe it was, but you can get some decent (or at least decent-enough) video cards for less than an Xbox 360.  Then there's the plethora of USB adapters that let you use any controller on a PC, and many video cards these days can output to a TV, etc.

Nintendo themselves make many of the best games for their consoles, so of course Nintendo gaming and PC gaming are different enough.  But PC gaming and Xbox gaming?  I guess there are some Live features but overall they're not different enough so you might as well upgrade your PC since you clearly have one (unless you're posting from a Mac I guess).

There I go ranting again.

The PS2 had exclusives, sure, but really it was more like developers never bothered to port or convert games for the less popular systems, not a loyal pledge to Sony themselves.  Now that games are so pricey to develop, I think we'll see fewer exclusives, so the PS3 library, Xbox 360 library, and the PC library will become even more similar than the PS2/Xbox/PC that it won't even be funny.  Everyone's expecting FF XIII and MGS 4 to lose exclusivity so I wouldn't be surprised to see them on the Xbox 360 and eventually the PC as well.

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« Reply #48 on: January 03, 2007, 09:07:37 AM »
but I cant play halo 3 with my feinds on thier 360 on a pc. and I hate pc gaming for tons of other reasons that those mentiond although I do playsome games ona  pc.

oh and the burger king games are crazy and fun.
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« Reply #49 on: January 03, 2007, 09:13:20 AM »
I'll just shut up now before I offend an Xbox owner.

It's so easy to get caught up that when it's clear to me that I would never own an Xbox, my logic may not be the same as everybody else's.