Author Topic: System Update (Read 107055 times)

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #275 on:** October 04, 2009, 02:04:26 PM »

Quote from: Mop_it_up on October 04, 2009, 01:59:24 PM

Right, and I'm saying that isn't something he should be worried about.

but should he not back up his saves just in case?
At the slight possibility that his system may be bricked by the update, it would be the smart and responsible thing to do. After doing so, then he won't have much else to worry about, unless the system actually does brick.

Mop it up · « **Reply #276 on:** October 04, 2009, 02:12:46 PM »

I'm actually kind of surprised everyone doesn't already have all of their data backed up. Or at least the files which can be copied. I really hate how the save data of games with an online mode can't be copied.

If someone is worried about it then they should just get the update now (if their data is backed up) instead of having it hang over their head until they're forced to do it. It's better to deal with now if it's a problem rather than later.

EDIT: Except I'm not sure if EasyCure can download the update if his Internet still isn't working properly. Forget I said anything...

stevey · « **Reply #277 on:** October 04, 2009, 02:18:23 PM »

Quote from: Mop_it_up on October 04, 2009, 02:12:46 PM

I really hate how the save data of games with an online mode can't be copied.

That what homebrew is for. (I have a complete image of my wii flash memory backed up including OS/save/setting/Friend codes/channel/shop account/history/mail/miis)

Mop it up · « **Reply #278 on:** October 04, 2009, 02:21:46 PM »

Is that something that's easy to do? I might be tempted to try it just to get a backup of my saves.

that Baby guy · « **Reply #279 on:** October 04, 2009, 02:51:26 PM »

It can be. You have to find a solid guide that tells you (or gives you) what you need, and explains exactly how to use it. You'd think that would be simple, but often, due to the constantly "upgrading" nature of homebrew, several guides are out of date, or even created while the software mentioned is in transition.

I think Kotaku and Lifehacker had some guides up that might help. Gonintendo would certainly have some links to several, as well.

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #280 on:** October 04, 2009, 03:15:13 PM »

No, you shouldn't just go ahead and update if you're concerned. Wait for Nintendo to release a *new* update that fixes the issues created by the current one. It's better to deal with it later, rather than take the risk (even if it's a very small risk) now.

Mop it up · « **Reply #281 on:** October 04, 2009, 03:27:10 PM »

Are they actually going to release an update which fixes the problems caused by 4.2? Because it doesn't seem like they will.

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #282 on:** October 04, 2009, 04:49:48 PM »

It would be the right thing to do, rather than wait for the system to break.

stevey · « **Reply #283 on:** October 04, 2009, 08:11:53 PM »

I don't think that is possible with Nintendo's update system. Right now it just updates anything and everything that has a new version and/or is missing from the Wii. So if Nintendo wants to improve the update mechanism they will have to remove the boot2 update, update the system menu/IOS to have a better boot2 updater function(4.2->4.3), then they have to re-upload updated boot2 on their servers(4.3->4.4) when everyone has the better version of the updater which will never happen because there is no guarantee than people wont just jump from a firmware below 4.2 to the newest which make the rest pointless. Not to mention that with an old version of boot1, updating boot2 to version 4 does absolutely nothing in piracy or homebrew prevention.

EasyCure · « **Reply #284 on:** October 05, 2009, 10:59:07 AM »

Updated it with the update that came on the GH5 disc; no problems. It's actually not the same update thats been bricking systems lately. Since my wii is offline at the moment, I won't be updating to that any time soon.

vudu · « **Reply #285 on:** October 05, 2009, 02:15:16 PM »

Quote from: stevey on October 04, 2009, 02:18:23 PM

Quote from: Mop_it_up on October 04, 2009, 02:12:46 PM
I really hate how the save data of games with an online mode can't be copied.

That what homebrew is for. (I have a complete image of my wii flash memory backed up including OS/save/setting/Friend codes/channel/shop account/history/mail/miis)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you load those saves onto another Wii system and take it online won't it give you all sorts of problems?

Quote from: EasyCure on October 05, 2009, 10:59:07 AM

Updated it with the update that came on the GH5 disc; no problems. It's actually not the same update thats been bricking systems lately. Since my wii is offline at the moment, I won't be updating to that any time soon.

You will if you have any desire to play NSMB Wii or any of the other games coming out this holiday season.

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #286 on:** October 05, 2009, 04:36:29 PM »

Not necessarily true. If you have the means to get your Wii DVDs dumped to a USB hard drive, then you can remove the updates from the games too. Some games, though not many, actually require certain updates (Rock Band 2 and GHWT and up, IIRC).

vudu · « **Reply #287 on:** October 05, 2009, 04:42:53 PM »

Seems like a lot of hassle just for elite status of being a dick.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #288 on:** October 05, 2009, 05:17:15 PM »

Does being elite dick help people get friends to play co-op New Mare-eeoh Bros.?

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #289 on:** October 05, 2009, 05:47:10 PM »

I don't get what you're saying there, vudu. I hope none of this "elite" and "dick" talk is directed at me.

that Baby guy · « **Reply #290 on:** October 05, 2009, 06:48:28 PM »

Quote from: stevey on October 04, 2009, 08:11:53 PM

I don't think that is possible with Nintendo's update system. Right now it just updates anything and everything that has a new version and/or is missing from the Wii. So if Nintendo wants to improve the update mechanism they will have to remove the boot2 update, update the system menu/IOS to have a better boot2 updater function(4.2->4.3), then they have to re-upload updated boot2 on their servers(4.3->4.4) when everyone has the better version of the updater which will never happen because there is no guarantee than people wont just jump from a firmware below 4.2 to the newest which make the rest pointless. Not to mention that with an old version of boot1, updating boot2 to version 4 does absolutely nothing in piracy or homebrew prevention.

It's possible to simply just offer update 4.3 and remove all traces of 4.2 from their network. Since the update isn't currently pressed on any disks, and it's available online only, it wouldn't cause a problem. It doesn't need the altered boot sequence to update it's firmware beyond that, so they could just avoid it. There's no problem with that, I wouldn't think.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #291 on:** October 05, 2009, 07:01:50 PM »

Quote from: Brandogg on October 05, 2009, 05:47:10 PM

I don't get what you're saying there, vudu. I hope none of this "elite" and "dick" talk is directed at me.

not you.

your mom.

quote me son

EasyCure · « **Reply #292 on:** October 05, 2009, 07:08:51 PM »

Quote from: BlackNMild2k1 on October 05, 2009, 07:01:50 PM

Quote from: Brandogg on October 05, 2009, 05:47:10 PM
I don't get what you're saying there, vudu. I hope none of this "elite" and "dick" talk is directed at me.
not you.

your mom.

quote me son

Yo momma's so old, she saw passion of christ live.

stevey · « **Reply #293 on:** October 05, 2009, 07:55:52 PM »

Quote from: vudu on October 05, 2009, 02:15:16 PM

Quote from: stevey on October 04, 2009, 02:18:23 PM
Quote from: Mop_it_up on October 04, 2009, 02:12:46 PM
I really hate how the save data of games with an online mode can't be copied.

That what homebrew is for. (I have a complete image of my wii flash memory backed up including OS/save/setting/Friend codes/channel/shop account/history/mail/miis)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you load those saves onto another Wii system and take it online won't it give you all sorts of problems?

Only if both Wiis try to connect online at the exact same time. If you just replace a wii and restore the old one's FC on to the new one then their wont be any problems.

Quote from: vudu on October 05, 2009, 02:15:16 PM

Quote from: EasyCure on October 05, 2009, 10:59:07 AM
Updated it with the update that came on the GH5 disc; no problems. It's actually not the same update thats been bricking systems lately. Since my wii is offline at the moment, I won't be updating to that any time soon.

You will if you have any desire to play NSMB Wii or any of the other games coming out this holiday season.

You can just install/upgrade the needed IOS (if any) and uses one of the many homebrew apps that can skip the update check. If you really don't want to upgrade.

vudu · « **Reply #294 on:** October 05, 2009, 07:58:11 PM »

Quote from: Brandogg on October 05, 2009, 05:47:10 PM

I don't get what you're saying there, vudu. I hope none of this "elite" and "dick" talk is directed at me.

Not you specifically. I just find that most people who care about this stuff don't do so because they like homebrew. Assuming they're not stealing games, they only really care about it for the sake of being able to tell people they can do it.

that Baby guy · « **Reply #295 on:** October 05, 2009, 08:25:35 PM »

Wow, that's exactly the opposite. I did it all so I could make Smash Bros. a little more enjoyable, taking out tripping and making the Pokemon Trainer's pokemon separate when we want them that way. We turned Rumble Falls into the WiFi waiting room, too. Definitely more enjoyable considering how we play.

From there, we decided to check out some other things, and we went with using codes to touch up or add in more fun with other things. Now, since I don't have a great DVD player in my room, and I've been meaning to rip my DVD's anyways, so I have solid back-ups, I'm going to be making it so my Wii can play rips of my DVDs. It's a nice opportunity for me to organize things, and make things convenient as well. Yeah, I like to talk about it sometimes, because it's something I like, and I think other people might like, too. I'm sure you've done the same with other things. It's not a status symbol, it's a matter of trying to share good things with people you like.

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #296 on:** October 05, 2009, 08:32:51 PM »

The funhouse shouldn't be brought into the "real" forums.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #297 on:** October 05, 2009, 08:36:48 PM »

Quote from: Brandogg on October 05, 2009, 08:32:51 PM

The funhouse shouldn't be brought into the "real" forums.

The Funhouse is the only real forum.

EasyCure · « **Reply #298 on:** October 05, 2009, 09:08:00 PM »

Quote from: insanolord on October 05, 2009, 08:36:48 PM

Quote from: Brandogg on October 05, 2009, 08:32:51 PM
The funhouse shouldn't be brought into the "real" forums.

The Funhouse is the only real forum.

As an agent of Fun, I hereby proclaim this statement and one of the few pure truths of this forum.

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #299 on:** October 05, 2009, 10:52:52 PM »

That's why I had real in quotes.

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Author Topic: System Update (Read 107055 times)