Topic: Official Sales Thread

[NWR_Lindy]

I guess that's what I'm getting at with the spin-off game idea.  I don't think that Madden's Wii problems are from the game itself, but rather the kind of jumbled message that people get from it.  Is it for hardcore Madden fans?  Is it for casual fans?  If I liked Madden on PS2, will I like this?  If I liked Wii Sports, will I like this?  It's pretty confusing from the outside looking in.

If they had Madden as the sim game, a spin-off game as the over-the-top game, and sold them both as such, it'd be a lot easier to get that message to consumers.

[NWR_insanolord]

That's probably true. The game as it is is good for both casual gamers and serious sports gamers but I don't think there's a way to effectively market the game to one group without alienating the other.

[NWR_Lindy]

I've been playing Madden 09 (on 360) and they've simplified the controls a little bit, so it's not THAT difficult to learn any more.  They've mapped the juking/spinning etc. to the right stick, which is way more intuitive.  I still mess up throwing to receivers sometimes though, because I just can't get the face buttons (X/Y/B) down cold.

I think EA should buy Tecmo, and then they could make Madden Tecmo Super Bowl with the NFL license.  Problem solved (for me).

[SixthAngel]

There are two problems with Madden.

One is the name.  The name has been around for too long and is already assosiated with certain gameplay and stat updates.  All the advertisements in the world won't change a brand overnight, if at all, especially when there are two different versions on the market.  If someone is only a casual football watcher they won't even know what the name Madden is or means anymore.  The name already aims it right at hardcore football watchers.

The second is that Madden is completely aimed at the male demographic.  A lot of the new gamers are female and football fans tend to be predominantly male.  Football games are not going to sell well to females.  If you want to sell sports games to females don't repackage your testosterone fueled Madden game, make a sports game that they want to play like Wii bowling.  Wrapping motion controls around your football game won't sell it to people who don't like football.

[NWR_insanolord]

I've been playing Madden 09 (on 360) and they've simplified the controls a little bit, so it's not THAT difficult to learn any more.  They've mapped the juking/spinning etc. to the right stick, which is way more intuitive.  I still mess up throwing to receivers sometimes though, because I just can't get the face buttons (X/Y/B) down cold.

I think EA should buy Tecmo, and then they could make Madden Tecmo Super Bowl with the NFL license.  Problem solved (for me).

EA shouldn't buy Tecmo, but they should make a deal with them like the deal Take 2 makes with Konami that lets them make Power Pros with the MLB license.

[BeautifulShy]

So where are the Media Create Numbers?

[Flames_of_chaos]

9/08 - 9/14 media create


1. [NDS] Pokemon Platinum (Pokemon Co.) 963,273 / NEW
2. [NDS] Quiz Magic Academy DS (Konami) 119,134 / NEW
3. [360] Infinite Undiscovery (Square Enix) 90,288 / NEW
4. [WII] One Piece Unlimited Cruise: Episode 1 (Namco Bandai) 61,009 / NEW
5. [NDS] Rhythm Tengoku Gold (Nintendo) 55,772 / 723,000
6. [WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo) 25,257 / 2,635,000
7. [PS2] D.Gray-man: Sousha no Shikaku (Konami) 14,955 / NEW
8. [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo) 13,990 / 1,762,000
9. [NDS] Daigasso! Band Brothers DX (Nintendo) 13,897 / 340,000
10. [PS2] J-League Winning Eleven 2008 Club Championship (Konami) 12,748 / 148,000

11. [NDS] Dragon Quest V (Square Enix)
12. [NDS] Fire Emblem: Shin Ankoku Ryuu to Hikari no Ken (Nintendo)
13. [NDS] Inazuma Eleven (Level 5)
14. [PS3] Afrika (SCEI)
15. [PS2] SEGA AGES 2500 Series Vol.33 Fantasy Zone Complete Collection (SEGA)
16. [NDS] Blue Dragon Plus (AQ Interactive)
17. [PSP] Phantasy Star Portable (SEGA)
18. [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2 G (SEGA)
19. [WII] Wii Sports (Nintendo)
20. [NDS] Taiko Drum Master 2: The Seven Island Adventure (Namco Bandai)
21. [360] Tales of Vesperia (Namco Bandai)
22. [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo)
23. [NDS] Hoshizora no Comic Garden (D3)
24. [NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo)
25. [NDS] Beautiful Letter Training DS (Nintendo)
26. [PS2] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Yakyuu 15 (Konami)
27. [NDS] Animal Crossing: Wild World (Nintendo)
28. [WII] Wii Play (Nintendo)
29. [PSP] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Yakyuu Portable 3 (Konami)
30. [PS3] Battlefield: Bad company (Electronic Arts)

31. [NDS] Observation Training (Nintendo)
32. [360] Viva Pinata 2 (Microsoft)
33. [NDS] Bokura wa Kaseki Holder (We are Fossil Diggers) (Nintendo)
34. [NDS] Mame Goma 2: Uchi no Ko ga Ichiban! (My Kid is Number One!) (TDK Core)
35. [PSP] Fate/Tiger Colosseum Upper (Capcom)
36. [NDS] Pokemon Diamond (Pokemon)
37. [WII] Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Nintendo)
38. [WII] Wario Land: Shake It! (Nintendo)
39. [PS2] Persona 4 (Atlus Co.)
40. [NDS] Kanji Brain 2 + Dictionary (IE Institute)
41. [NDS] Mario Party DS (Nintendo)
42. [PSP] Gundam Battle Universe (Namco Bandai)
43. [NDS] Densetsu no Stafi: Taiketsu! Dire Kaizokudan (Nintendo)
44. [WII] Super Mario Baseball Stadium (Nintendo)
45. [NDS] Puyo Puyo! (BEST) (SEGA)
46. [NDS] Tottadoo! Yoiko's Deserted Island Life (Namco Bandai)
47. [NDS] Brain Training 2 (Nintendo)
48. [WII] Fatal Frame: Mask of the Lunar Eclipse (Nintendo)
49. [PS3] Conflict: Denied Ops (Spike)
50. [NDS] Pokemon Pearl (Pokemon)

TOP 50
NDS:25
Wii:9
PS2:5
PSP:5
XBOX360:3
PS3:3

DSL　63000
360　29000
Wii　27000
PSP　26000
PS3　8100
PS2　7500

[Flames_of_chaos]

Microsoft should outsource all of their first party RPG publishing to square-enix, Microsoft was supposed to be the original publisher of Infinite Undiscovery but they are the co-publisher and let square-enix put their name on the box. Smart move.

[BeautifulShy]

Those sales of Pokemon Platinum are from only 2 days.Impressive.Flames I think the 360 numbers are wrong. Early reports said that 360 beat the Wii. The numbers I saw had Wii beating 360 by a small margin.

[Flames_of_chaos]

Those sales of Pokemon Platinum are from only 2 days.Impressive.Flames I think the 360 numbers are wrong. Early reports said that 360 beat the Wii. The numbers I saw had Wii beating 360 by a small margin.

Maxi,
The 360 vs Wii numbers are contested because in Japan Famitsu and Media Create release their own numbers so there will obviously be some variance, the console sales are MC's numbers except rounded. The variance between famitsu and media create is roughly by 1000.

[BeautifulShy]

OK thank you for that explanation.

[Flames_of_chaos]

I believe that famitsu reported in ~28000 for Wii and ~27300 for 360 (~ means roughly)

[NWR_Lindy]

Nintendo seriously ought to just release a bundle that includes Wii Fit and Wii Sports, and then take the year off.

[Chozo Ghost]

An MS console is the number one console in Japan?!

Has that ever happened before? Ever?

[Flames_of_chaos]

Well it IS Square-enix, also technically speaking DS is still the number 1 console. Also 360 didn't even hit 1 million yet in Japan also expect the 360 to drop back to 2000 - 4000 next week.

[Flames_of_chaos]

Whoops! Apparently people reported in the wrong console numbers for Media Create here are the proper ones.

機種    è²©å£²å�°æ•°
DS Lite    63,859
PSP    30,156
Wii    29,686
Xbox 360    28,188
PS3    8,053
PS2    7,669

[BeautifulShy]

I thought I was right.

[Chozo Ghost]

Who would have thought the PS3 would perform this pathetically in Japan? It is only barely outselling the PS2 and everything else is WAY ahead. Even the 360 is giving it a run for its money...

[KDR_11k]

lol PS3. Yeah, Little Big Planet is going to save it any minute now and catapult it to #1, right?

[BlackNMild2k1]

Whoops! Apparently people reported in the wrong console numbers for Media Create here are the proper ones.

機種    è²©å£²å�°æ•°
DS Lite    63,859
PSP    30,156
Wii    29,686
Xbox 360    28,188
PS3    8,053
PS2    7,669

I've been out of it for a while, so maybe a few of you could fill me in, but why is Wii & 360 seliing neck & neck while PS3 barely has a leg up on the PS2?
The 360 is selling in Japan? what did MS do right, where did Sony go wrong? & why isn't Wii doing better?

[BeautifulShy]

B&M I can tell you why the 360 is doing well. The 360 got a price drop and that game Infinite Discovery came out. The past few weeks I noticed the Wii sales drop from previous weeks.I don't know why. PS3 last big game was MGS4.That was a few months ago.So I would guess lack of software.

[Flames_of_chaos]

Well Infinite Undiscovery is published by Square-Enix originally it was supposed to be published by Microsoft but they gave it to Square and it worked in Japan. PS3 isn't getting anything that really interests people to warrant a sales boom, Wii is doing normally in Japan but watch it explode again once Wii Music comes out.

360 usually does 2000 - 4000 a week, a few people from NeoGaf who live near Akihabara noticed that a lot of used 360s showed up after the week Tales of Vesperia came out.

[NWR_Lindy]

I don't think PS3 will see any sort of a sales bump in Japan until White Knight Story releases on December 25th.  All of Sony's big holiday releases are very Western-skewed (Resistance 2, LittleBigPlanet, SOCOM, MotorStorm: Pacific Rift).

[Flames_of_chaos]

Believe it or not Silks they are heavily pushing LBP in Japan with giant sack boy mascots running around Sony events. I think they are going for a "for everybody" approach with LBP considering that it may actually appeal Japanese audiences.

[NWR_Lindy]

I'd be amazed if LBP does big numbers in Japan.  It's quirky enough to appeal to them though, that's for sure.  And it is a Sony (read: Japanese) product, which guarantees that the Japanese market won't completely ignore it.