Topic: Official Sales Thread

[Ceric]

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Originally posted by: 31 Flavas
Geez.... Wii is going to have 3 million systems sold in Japan before PS3 even breaks 1 million...

As the bearer of bad news.  That won't happen unless there is even more of a sells urge for Wii and the PS3 sells like the current Gamecube sells.

[Deguello]

Uhh Ceric... It is actually more than possible for that to happen.


The Wii only lacks about 265,000 units to 3 million.  The PS3 lacks 71,000 to one million.

At the Wii's current rate, it will take a little over 4 weeks.  The PS3 will take 7 at least, and that's if I be generous and round their sub 10,000 sales figures up to 10,000.  For the PS3 to get to one million before Wii gets to 3, it'll take the Ps3 selling 17,750 each week, almost double what they have now.  

[Chozo Ghost]

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Originally posted by: ShyGuy
Nintendo should express an interest in purchasing Sony just to see how many internet message boards it could crash.

I wonder if Sony executives would commit Seppuku in shame if that were to happen....

But it also makes me wonder, why hasn't Microsoft purchased Sony? Since MS has said they are only in the gaming market to stop Sony wouldn't it make sense to just buy them out? MS has no problem bleeding billions on the xbox, so why not do this? If they can do it, I mean... aren't they wealthy enough to do it?

[Kairon]

I'm sure that buying entire other multibilliondollar multinational corporations is NOT the answer to all of corporate life's problems.

[Chozo Ghost]

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Originally posted by: Deguello
Uhh Ceric... It is actually more than possible for that to happen.


The Wii only lacks about 265,000 units to 3 million.  The PS3 lacks 71,000 to one million.

At the Wii's current rate, it will take a little over 4 weeks.  The PS3 will take 7 at least, and that's if I be generous and round their sub 10,000 sales figures up to 10,000.  For the PS3 to get to one million before Wii gets to 3, it'll take the Ps3 selling 17,750 each week, almost double what they have now.

Are there any killer apps for the PS3 coming out in the next 4 weeks to boost sales and save Sony from this humiliation?

[Deguello]

No not really.  And the very end of 4 weeks from now, the hotly anticipated (by Sony fans) Hot Shots Golf 5 will be released, along with a PS3 price cut for the bundle.  That might spark interest...

But the Wii is getting DRAGON QUEST in like, two weeks.

[KDR_11k]

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Originally posted by: Chozo Ghost

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Originally posted by: ShyGuy
Nintendo should express an interest in purchasing Sony just to see how many internet message boards it could crash.

I wonder if Sony executives would commit Seppuku in shame if that were to happen....

But it also makes me wonder, why hasn't Microsoft purchased Sony? Since MS has said they are only in the gaming market to stop Sony wouldn't it make sense to just buy them out? MS has no problem bleeding billions on the xbox, so why not do this? If they can do it, I mean... aren't they wealthy enough to do it?

They wouldn't get FTC approval for that.

[Kairon]

So far history suggests that once Japan has chosen, there's no turning back...

That said, Folks Soul is out next week and it looks pretty gorgeous. And the trailer I linked does a pretty good job of showing off its (next-gen)dramatic quality and neat story concept.

[Luigi Dude]

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Originally posted by: Chozo Ghost
But it also makes me wonder, why hasn't Microsoft purchased Sony? Since MS has said they are only in the gaming market to stop Sony wouldn't it make sense to just buy them out? MS has no problem bleeding billions on the xbox, so why not do this? If they can do it, I mean... aren't they wealthy enough to do it?

The Japanese government would never allow that to happen.  I'm not too sure what this is all about exactly but from what I've heard, the Japanese government has certain things in place to prevent things like this from happening.  This is because they are very much opposed to overseas companies taking over their own and have safeguards to prevent such things.  And since Sony is one of Japans biggest companies, there's no way the Japanese government would let Sony get taken over without a huge fight.

[BlackNMild2k1]

I should've posted this sooner, but I couldn't get it confirmed since I can't read japanese

Unconfirmed First day numbers...

[DS] Zelda: PH - >300k
[DS] Itadaki Street DS - 70k
[PS2] Growlanser VI - ~30k
[PS2] Mana Khemia - <20k
[Wii] Hajime no Ippo Revolution - ~10k
[360] Saints Row - ~7k
[PS3] Folks Soul - ~7k

I'm not expecting Folksoul to do much, Zelda on the other hand looks to be off to a really good start.

[31 Flavas]

Wow... Like it or not, you have to admit Nintendo has just got the midas touch, right now.

[Kairon]

I hear that Ninja Gaiden's actually still up there somewhere. But what matters at this point is hardware sales. The next big software thing I'm waiting for is Dragon Quest Swords in early July...

[Ceric]

Sorry about earlier I did the calculations in my head a little to quick.

[blackfootsteps]

I'm shocked that constantly 360 games are competing on an even footing with the PS3 in Japan.

[Ceric]

You may even say they are surpassing the PS3 games.  Though at the moment that isn't saying much.

[The Omen]

As a Nintendo recluse for the past II generations, am I the only one being overly cautious with the success Nintendo is having right now?  I mean, if the roles of the PS3 and the Wii were reversed, surely we would concede that Nintendo had already lost this gen, right?  

 

[Kairon]

You're not th eonly one, don't worry. The XBox 360 isn't going away, and the Wii still needs to gain the unequivocal support of the majority of third parties.

[Michael8983]

I'm being a little cautious but also optimistic. There's still the question of whether or not third-parties will jump aboard but we have EVERY reason to believe they will. The Wii is by far the cheapest and easiest console to develop for and is also selling leaps and bounds above the competition. I mean why WOULDN'T third-parties get on board? Even Sega which

The XBox 360 isn't going anywhere but its complete lack of presence in Japan is always going to hold it back. Even though it had a comparable amount of US support, the original XBox was never able to see the kind of sales the PS2 had  because it couldn't match it's support from Japanese developers. Maybe Japan isn't the most important market but it is still vital and, if it wasn't, MS wouldn't have tried (and failed) to win it over as vigorously as they did.
I suppose anything is possible but once the tides have begun to change there's usually no going back.
It happened a decade ago with the PSX surpassing the N64 and it's happening again.
Once it became clear that Sony had stolen the attention of gamers everywhere away from the previous market leader, Nintendo fans anticipated every MAJOR release claiming any one game would steal it back.
Now PS3/360 fans are in the same boat, hyping future releasing as the "turning point" when their console will rise again and crush the Wii. But, just like before, it's just wishful thinking from loyal fans who aren't ready to admit that times have changed.

[Ceric]

Media Create Sales 6/18 - 6/24

01./00. [DS] The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass (Nintendo) - 303,000 / NEW
02./00. [DS] Itadaki Street DS (Square-Enix) - 149,000 / NEW
03./01. [DS] Practice by Observing: DS Observation Training (Nintendo) - 44,000 / 265,000
04./04. [Wii] Wii Sports (Nintendo) - 34,000 / 1,756,000
05./00. [PS2] Growlanser VI (Atlus) - 27,000 / NEW
06./00. [Wii] Hajime no Ippo: Revolution (AQ Interactive) - 25,000 / NEW
07./06. [Wii] Wii Play (Nintendo) - 22,000 / 1,421,000
08./00. [PS2] Mana-Khemia: The School Alchemists (Gust) - 21,000 / NEW
09./05. [DS] More Brain Age (Nintendo) - 20,000 / 4,395,000
10./07. [DS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo) - 18,000 / 4,557,000

11./00. [PS3] FolksSoul (Sony)
12./08. [DS] Moero! Nekketsu Rhythm Damashii: Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan 2 (Nintendo)
13./09. [DS] More English Training (Nintendo)
14./13. [DS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo)
15./11. [DS] Prof. Layton and the Mysterious Village (Level 5)
16./10. [DS] Brain Age (Nintendo)
17./16. [DS] Animal Crossing Wild World (Nintendo)
18./00. [DS] Welcome for NANA Live Staff Applicants (Konami)
19./03. [PS3] Ninja Gaiden Sigma (Tecmo)
20./37. [DS] Middle School English Vocabulary Target 1800 DS (IE Institute)

21./18. [DS] English Training (Nintendo)
22./15. [DS] Momotarou Dentetsu DS: Tokyo & Japan (Hudson)
23./17. [DS] Yoshi's Island DS (Nintendo)
24./19. [Wii] Super Paper Mario (Nintendo)
25./00. [360] Saints Row (THQ Japan)
26./21. [DS] Kanji Brain Test 2M (IE Institute)
27./30. [DS] Pokémon Diamond (Pokemon)
28./27. [DS] Kekkaishi: Tale of the Raven Forest (Bandai-Namco)
29./00. [DS] Cooking Navi: All-Empire Hotel (Koei)
30./20. [DS] Common Knowledge Training (Nintendo)

31./31. [Wii] Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition (Capcom)
32./12. [PS2] Hisshou Pachinko/Pachislo Capture Series, Vol. 10: CR Neon Geneses Evangelion (D3 Publisher)
33./25. [Wii] Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree (Nintendo)
34./34. [DS] Pokémon Pearl (Pokemon)
35./02. [360] Trusty Bell ~Chopin's Dream~ (Bandai-Namco)
36./26. [DS] Phoenix Wright 4 (Capcom)
37./00. [PSP] Smash Court Tennis 3 (Bandai-Namco)
38./32. [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2nd (Capcom)
39./29. [DS] Kurikin: Nano Island Story (Nintendo)
40./22. [PSP] Dragon Ball Z: Shin Budokai - Another Road (Bandai-Namco)

41./33. [DS] Kanji Test (Rocket Co.)
42./24. [PSP] Final Fantasy Tactics: The Lion War (Square-Enix)
43./36. [DS] Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis (Nintendo)
44./42. [DS] Word Puzzle Mojipittan DS (Bandai-Namco)
45./28. [Wii] Harvest Moon: Tree of Peace (Marvelous Interactive)
46./23. [PSP] Final Fantasy II (Square-Enix)
47./35. [DS] Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings (Square-Enix)
48./39. [DS] Dragon Quest Monsters Joker (Square-Enix)
49./14. [PS3] Call of Duty 3 (Spike)
50./38. [DS] Big Brain Academy (Nintendo)

Hardware - This Week | Last Week |       YTD |        LTD
1. NDS   -   163,918 |   118,684 | 3,814,038 | 17,819,717
2. WII   -    65,582 |    65,521 | 1,880,933 |  2,800,576
3. PSP   -    32,984 |    33,359 | 1,044,842 |  5,576,971
4. PS2   -    11,962 |    11,974 |   404,057 | 20,558,916
5. PS3   -     9,581 |     9,481 |   481,017 |    938,575
6. 360   -     3,369 |     7,583 |   115,429 |    380,131
7. GBA   -       414 |       867 |    40,232 | 15,338,311
8. NGC   -        82 |       223 |     8,308 |  4,177,776

GBA = 0 GBA + 130 SP + 284 Micro
NDS = 30 DS + 163,888 Lite

# of Games Sold by System (Currently in no order):
Wii- 7 games
DS- 30 games
PS3- 3 games
PS2- 3 games
PSP- 5 games
XBox 360- 2 games

# First Party Games Split by Company:
Nintendo: 21
Sony: 1
Microsoft: 0

First to Third Party Number and Ratios by Company:
16 out of 37 or 43% of games Published for a Nintendo System were 3rd Party.
10 out of 11 or 90% of games Published for a Sony System were 3rd Party.
2 out of 2 or 100% of games Published for a Microsoft System were 3rd Party.
Legend:
Game- Nintendo System
Game- Sony System
Game- Microsoft System

Kept for Historical Purposes.
Here are the numbers unparsed at the moment.  Its been a long week and I'll see if I can have them parsed tomorrow.  Something is throwing off the parser and I can't track it down tonight.  I know one thing in particular is that last weeks rank is no longer given in this particular version.  We'll see when we get the slightly different numbers on Thursday, hardware and the other 20 in the top 50.
I rewrote the parser from scratch.  It only took about 2 hours this time since I knew fully what I was doing.  The back-end had changed some to compensate for the new way they are posting numbers.  I think this will be more flexible making less downtime between scheme changes.  Now just to see how the top 50 will be... (You might also not that the new stuff isn't there.  How I calculated it before used the last week ranks.)  

[ShineGet887]

In response to the current sales numbers of the Wii, I have to say that I'm happy, but far from celebrating. How successful this console will be is heavily dependent on how much 3rd party support it can garner in its first year, and how much it can continuously have despite the dated graphics. For me, graphics aren't much of an issue, but what happens when the other consoles drop in price? It's hard to imagine the Wii's user base just abandoning it, but I think that given this possibility, the Wii will gain a sturdy lead in the first half of the generation, only to be fending off the competitors for the rest of it.

Who knows how it'll all work out in the end, what matters now is that Nintendo is doing great and is putting themselves in position to end the year with a huge lead over the competition.

[Arbok]

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Originally posted by: ShineGet887
For me, graphics aren't much of an issue, but what happens when the other consoles drop in price? It's hard to imagine the Wii's user base just abandoning it, but I think that given this possibility, the Wii will gain a sturdy lead in the first half of the generation, only to be fending off the competitors for the rest of it.

I think you are underestimating what's happening. It's not traditional gamers that are driving Wii sales, although they are being taken along as well, but the system is also appealing to a group which is either new to owning a system or had previously lost interest.

For example, in my advertising class in college, we were able to pick a product in order to build a campaign around. 6 people in the class picked video game systems. Two of them were male, myself included for the Wii and another guy was doing the PS3. The other four were all women, each doing one for the Wii, two of which had never owned a video game system prior and one had stopped playing video games since the SNES before this point.

Because of this, I do feel that Nintendo has begun to reach their goal. They have grown the market, largely thanks to Wii Sports... a game that can't really be replicated on the other consoles. Sure this might end up being a very, very casual market that ends up with only a few Wii games in the end, but I do feel that appealing to this demographic would still ensure that hardware numbers outflank both the 360 and PS3 this generation due to what the Wii has to offer.

[BranDonk Kong]

Nice. Ninja Gaiden debuts at #3, then drops 16 spots. I'm kind of disappointed that Trusty Bell fell off, not that I've ever played the game or even like RPGs, but I thought it would have been awesome if MS had a game beat Sony 2 weeks in a row, and it probably would have pushed XBox 360's hardware sales over PS3's for the week. On the other hand, Nintendo owns that chart up and down.

[Kairon]

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Originally posted by: Arbok
For example, in my advertising class in college, we were able to pick a product in order to build a campaign around. 6 people in the class picked video game systems. Two of them were male, myself included for the Wii and another guy was doing the PS3. The other four were all women, each doing one for the Wii, two of which had never owned a video game system prior and one had stopped playing video games since the SNES before this point.

Yes. YES. YES!

First you get the women. Then you get the power. Then you get the money.

*ahem*

But I DO think that it's a valid concenr over what happens 3,4, 5 years down the line. Will people want better graphics? Will the PS3 even survive 3 more years?

And sure, the PS3 and XBox 360 willd rop in price, but how will those systems at $200 or $300 contrast with a Wii at $99?

[denjet78]

Would a PS3 or 360 price drop even put a dent in Wii sales? People seem to assume that it will but remember, the GC was always the least expensive console last generation but it still came in last place. Cost is a factor yes but even if you completely removed it from the equation I highly doubt we'd suddenly see the PS3 dominating. I'm not saying sales wouldn't be far closer, or that the PS3 might even be selling better than the Wii, but just that it wouldn't shift the market around to how it was last generation.

[ShineGet887]

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Originally posted by: Arbok

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Originally posted by: ShineGet887
For me, graphics aren't much of an issue, but what happens when the other consoles drop in price? It's hard to imagine the Wii's user base just abandoning it, but I think that given this possibility, the Wii will gain a sturdy lead in the first half of the generation, only to be fending off the competitors for the rest of it.

I think you are underestimating what's happening. It's not traditional gamers that are driving Wii sales, although they are being taken along as well, but the system is also appealing to a group which is either new to owning a system or had previously lost interest.

For example, in my advertising class in college, we were able to pick a product in order to build a campaign around. 6 people in the class picked video game systems. Two of them were male, myself included for the Wii and another guy was doing the PS3. The other four were all women, each doing one for the Wii, two of which had never owned a video game system prior and one had stopped playing video games since the SNES before this point.

Because of this, I do feel that Nintendo has begun to reach their goal. They have grown the market, largely thanks to Wii Sports... a game that can't really be replicated on the other consoles. Sure this might end up being a very, very casual market that ends up with only a few Wii games in the end, but I do feel that appealing to this demographic would still ensure that hardware numbers outflank both the 360 and PS3 this generation due to what the Wii has to offer.

On that opening statement, it's hard for me to be optimistic. Not to sound like a martyr or anything, but given my age, I never really saw the day that Nintendo was dominating, so the idea of them doing so now is still a little hard to believe. As for what you said about expanding the market, I absolutely agree, and if Nintendo can continue to build upon the momentum they've established, I see no reason for a major turn around to happen. They used this same sort of strategy with the DS, by expanding the market drastically with their product, they blew Sony and the PSP out of the water with a fairly weak and unattractive handheld in comparison.

One thing's for sure: If sales follow the track their currently on, Nintendo and Wii won't just win, they/it will -dominate-.