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Originally posted by: Adrock
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In regards to Adrock, that sounds like the Sony spin machine there, the PS3 is doing terrible even taking all things into consideration. You forgot one key element that is most likely contributing to a big chunk of the sales of the PS3 and that is it being the cheapest Blu-ray player on the market (Though that isn't the case anymore).
A Sony rep would never say, "For a console with as many problems as PS3 currently has..." It just wouldn't happen so I don't know what you think I'm spinning. At $600, I'd expect far fewer people to have bought PS3 even with brand loyalty. And while I disagree that a "big chunk" of PS3 sales are from being a "cheap" Blu-Ray player, $600 is still a lot of money no matter what you're paying for. For the people who bought it play Blu-Ray movies, Sony still got a PS3 into their homes. That's the hardest part.
Yes, Microsoft and, especially, Nintendo are doing better. However, that's not really the point here. Doing well and doing well for a $600 console are completely different things. So, all things considered, yes, Sony could be doing a hell of a lot worse. Microsoft was pushing it with the premium 360. PS3's MSRP is almost insulting.
8-9 thousand a week in Japan is not doing well. And believe it or not Phil Harrison or whatever his name is said the exact same thing you said in an interview with EGM. The point is that you completely disregard the fact that the PS3 has been the cheapest Blu-Ray player on the market, and combined with the fact it plays video games along with the Sony name are big pluses, and I wonder if you bothered factoring that in to your spin that PS3 is doing good. PS3 is constantly dropping in sales and it is looking bleak in all territories. Let me ask you how many do you think would buy a PS3 for 600$? Do you have any figures to back up your opinion in regards to that? To me that seems extremely subjective, and a weak argument that is pure spin.
Heck while were at it let me make my completely opinionated argument and state that considering the overwhelming dominance PS2 had and the Sony brand name, that the PS3 sales are pitiful. See what I did there? Heck I could say that a device that sold 100 units was "good considering its price" no matter what the product is or how much it cost, it is completely subjective and a prime argument people use to spin things since there is nothing to back it up.
When a console is getting outsold by almost a 1:15 margin in its primary market with its games failing most of the time to get in the top 50, that is NOT good and it is spin to say otherwise, perhaps you should be working for Sony? It isn't as bad here but it still doing bad, and a possible explanation is that the technophiles in the U.S. are getting it to play Blu-Ray movies made sweeter by the ability to play games, and even then that group is so small it is making only a small dent. Heck I believe a few weeks ago (Perhaps it is still true), Xbox 360 was still outselling PS3 by 2-1 and GBA was outselling PS3, that is not good when a system that is about dead is outselling yours (Though it did manage to outsell GameCube, so it did beat something!).
Heck all you need to do is go back to the launch of the PS3, there were usually 30+ thousand PS3s on sale the day it came out. Many people were buying it to sell, that in itself is not a good sign, and I wish there were exact numbers on how many were actually sold on ebay, I know it far outranked Xbox 360 or Wii. The rapid price drop even showed there was far more supply on ebay than demand.