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IceCold · « **Reply #850 on:** March 15, 2007, 01:21:36 PM »

I dunno, maybe it's hard to find because the units are being sold.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #851 on:** March 15, 2007, 01:30:04 PM »

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Capcom will likely still stick to their guns and back the PS3 to the bitter end.

And it WILL be bitter.

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I dunno, maybe it's hard to find because the units are being sold.

I'm guessing that Wal-Mart and BestBuy are getting the majority of the Wii shipments right now, which totally shafts retailers like GS on hardware sales, but they prefer to sell software anyway since there's a much better margin on it.

NWR_pap64 · « **Reply #852 on:** March 15, 2007, 02:17:48 PM »

SB, I should state that I wasn't being sarcastic in my last post. I do honestly find it weird that despite massive shortages the Wii is still selling by the thousands.

Ceric · « **Reply #853 on:** March 15, 2007, 03:00:08 PM »

It's the mafia.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #854 on:** March 15, 2007, 04:56:33 PM »

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Now you're just unreasonable.

I'm unreasonable on many subjects, but this is not one of them.

It makes sense that more Wiis would be arriving in stores as time goes on, not less.

Nintendo must've run out of plastic and are currently negotiating to drill for more.

...in a Japanese wildlife reserve.

Icecold nailed it: people are actually buying Nintendo systems in February, of all months.

The only reason why we saw more Nintendo console units in stores at similar times in past generations is because people didn't want it.

Just admit it, Nintendo is actually popular, rather than more popular than they expected such that they made a minimal number of units to save money and share among the territories.

Then again, no Nintendo home console has been in demand in all major territories at the same time, this soon.

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #855 on:** March 15, 2007, 05:05:13 PM »

Absolute Nintendo DOMINATION. BTW, Wal-Mart had 3 PS3s on the shelf 4 days ago - I went back, still 3 there. My Best Buy has 17.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #856 on:** March 15, 2007, 05:52:56 PM »

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Icecold nailed it: people are actually buying Nintendo systems in February, of all months.

The only reason why we saw more Nintendo console units in stores at similar times in past generations is because people didn't want it.

Just admit it, Nintendo is actually popular, rather than more popular than they expected such that they made a minimal number of units to save money and share among the territories.

Then again, no Nintendo home console has been in demand in all major territories at the same time, this soon.

Um, yeah, but my question is why Gamestop didn't receive any Wiis for the past 3 weeks (and I'm sure it's Gamestop and that other retailers are still getting them).

I've no idea why Gamestop would be so low on the totem pole when it comes to shipment allocation, but it seems like they are. I've always seen BB and Wal-Mart getting more systems.

Kairon · « **Reply #857 on:** March 15, 2007, 06:28:37 PM »

They're getting shipments. They're just not telling you because they sell out so fast anyways, there's no point I bet!

So... Square Enix... Kingdom hearts Wii is probably a foregone conclusion by now maybe? ... Why not throw in FF XIII as well?

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

IceCold · « **Reply #858 on:** March 15, 2007, 06:30:54 PM »

I wonder when Namco will drop some Wii announcements - where are those 30 supposed games? Even if most are licensed, I'm sure there are a few big names. Hopefully at E3.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #859 on:** March 15, 2007, 06:30:57 PM »

One thing the local GameStop lady told me is Nintendo treats geographical groups of stores as regions of finite product stock.

You could have 1 Target, covering say a 20 mile radius as if it was "the" one and only target of the city. Nintendo will send that store 20 Wii units in one shipment.

If within that same radius there's 5 GameStop stores, Nintendo will treat that group of GameStops as a single Gamestop region. Nintendo will send 20 units in one shipment, but it will be DIVIDED amongst those 5 stores.

Thus, each Gamestop doesn't get a lot of stock to begin with, and in turn, the stock appears to deplete sooner than a Target (a single, LESS localized retail outlet) that has to sell through 5 times as many stock.

In the end, people may be right that the bigger stores get more unit favor. Probably because it (1) costs less to ship a bundle of units to a single location, rather than UPS things to separate chain outlets, and (2) people are developing this tendency to lineup at the bigger stores, causing faster sales rates to occur at the bigger store, and (3) online retail outlets are managing to get units in stock in contrast to the "in store only" sale policy that was used throughout the past holiday, so the online stores are now taking a piece of the available shipment pie.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #860 on:** March 15, 2007, 06:46:51 PM »

I wonder if our local store still has the Wii that has been sitting there for weeks?

The declining PS3 numbers are what I've hoped for, it's good that people aren't dumb enough to buy a console that's twice as expensive as a console should be and doesn't offer any games other than the promise of FF and MGS plus the belief that what was on the PS2 will automatically be exclusive to the PS3.

Donutt007 · « **Reply #861 on:** March 16, 2007, 07:07:50 AM »

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Absolute Nintendo DOMINATION. BTW, Wal-Mart had 3 PS3s on the shelf 4 days ago - I went back, still 3 there. My Best Buy has 17.

I was reading an article about that. Some stores were only putting a couple of PS3s on the shelf to make it look like a limited number. I think it was a Target, the manager said that's the only way they can sell them.

They have to fake a high demand to move them off the shelf = pathetic.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #862 on:** March 16, 2007, 07:32:34 AM »

Thats what they were doing at the Circuit City by my work a little while back, they would display 2 behind the counter saying that it was the last 2, and when someone would buy one and then leave the store, they would replace the missing one with a different one from the stash under the counter.

I still have yet to see a Wii for sale on a store shelf though.

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February totals for Japan + US + Canada:

Wii 660k
360 259k
PS3 219k

Wii outsold 360 & PS3 combined, and thats not even counting Europe, which would help 360 but help Wii even more.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #863 on:** March 16, 2007, 07:51:52 AM »

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Originally posted by: Professional 666 Thus, each Gamestop doesn't get a lot of stock to begin with, and in turn, the stock appears to deplete sooner than a Target (a single, LESS localized retail outlet) that has to sell through 5 times as many stock.

That makes sense, as this Gamestop was one which is kinda out of the way from the others.

I called one nearby but in a denser population area and they HAD gotten some in in the past few weeks so it sounds like you're correct.

MaryJane · « **Reply #864 on:** March 16, 2007, 09:28:31 AM »

I wish people would stop buying the Wii, this way I would be able to buy one for myself. If they could just stop for a few hours, I can't get the store early Sunday morning, and by 1:00p.m when I can get the store, there are no more...

The major retailers aren't even selling them online, and I refuse to pay extra even though I want it so badly.

Ceric · « **Reply #865 on:** March 16, 2007, 10:02:12 AM »

Try Sams. I saw about 5 at Sams pack with Twilight Princess.

couchmonkey · « **Reply #866 on:** March 16, 2007, 10:07:56 AM »

The conspiracy theorist in me would argue that Wii numbers are dropping because Nintendo is trying to prevent Wii supply from outpacing demand until there are more games to drive demand.

Even if that were true, though, the fact is Wii is outselling the competition nicely, even with relatively few new games.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #867 on:** March 16, 2007, 12:42:33 PM »

There are still plenty of people who would like to own a Wii for Zelda, Sports, Wario Ware, Red Steel, Sonic, Elebits, etc. etc., but as of yet can't because you still can't find Wiis in stores and they go for $75 over retail (including shipping) on ebay.

I don't know what's taking Nintendo so long to seriously get the lead out, but they're missing a golden opportunity here.

Kairon · « **Reply #868 on:** March 16, 2007, 12:50:45 PM »

Yeah, when you're pacing ahead of the PS2 at this same point in its life, and supporting three regions all at once, then you KNOW you're just being lazy.

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #869 on:** March 16, 2007, 12:59:02 PM »

We've discussed this already: the fact that Nintendo couldn't supply enough DSL units, a system which has been out for a year already and is WELL known as a huge seller, indicates that they cannot properly manufacture stock worth a damn.

What are they worried about, that the DSLs WON'T sell? Pff...

Remember: my original prediction is that the Wii won't be in proper stock until Sept of this year, and while I intentionally exaggerated on that guess, here we are almost in April and I've still never seen one ON a shelf. I HOPE to hell we don't make it THAT long, but we'll see.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #870 on:** March 16, 2007, 01:04:51 PM »

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We've discussed this already: the fact that Nintendo couldn't supply enough DSL units, a system which has been out for a year already and is WELL known as a huge seller, indicates that they cannot properly manufacture stock worth a damn.

What are they worried about, that the DSLs WON'T sell? Pff...

Remember: my original prediction is that the Wii won't be in proper stock until Sept of this year, and while I intentionally exaggerated on that guess, here we are almost in April and I've still never seen one ON a shelf. I HOPE to hell we don't make it THAT long, but we'll see.

Yet they are still selling over 300k a month in NA, that is a pretty hefty supply of systems, and I'm sure both MS and Sony would have trouble hitting that production number in a month. BTW I've seen the Wii on shelves like 3 times in the last month!

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #871 on:** March 16, 2007, 01:23:42 PM »

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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix Yet they are still selling over 300k a month in NA, that is a pretty hefty supply of systems, and I'm sure both MS and Sony would have trouble hitting that production number in a month. BTW I've seen the Wii on shelves like 3 times in the last month!

Not so.

Between 2000-2007, Sony has allegedly shipped over 100 million PS2s. If that's to be believed (which it by and large is, as VG Charts says it's 111 million), then Sony had an average of 1.2 million PS2s being manufactured every month, and their demand was nothing like the Wii's is right now. It's still early, but I suspect Sony or MS would drop the cash for many more factories if they had a product as hot as the Wii + DS (both of which are hard to find right now).

I'm not really blaming Nintendo for the shortage...yet. If we DO reach Sept and they still haven't gotten Wiis to stay on shelves, then I don't think it can be argued that Nintendo can't manufacture worth a damn.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #872 on:** March 16, 2007, 02:39:18 PM »

Well we also have to take into consideration that Wii is being distributed globally, I would not be surprised if it is hitting close to 1.2 million if you factor worldwide shipment (Like PS2). Not to mention that Nintendo is also manufacturing the NDS Lite, and GBA SP still (even the GC if some reports are to be believed). Also it appears the projected number of PS3s either shipped or sold (not sure which you can never know with Sony) is 37 million. Which divided by 6 years and 6 months (Not sure exactly how long it has been) equals about 470+ thousand shipped a month, which does not factor in when production was ramped up later on. (Please check my math, I'm not the best).

Anyway if you factor in Worldwide shipments, I would not be the least surprised if Nintendo has averaged around 1.2 million each month like Sony did with PS2, which is mighty impressive in my opinion for a relatively smaller company.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #873 on:** March 16, 2007, 03:43:53 PM »

Wii shipments are about 600-800k, worldwide at present.

But yeah, the handheld manufacturing means that they're sharing resources, but I still maintain that Nintendo should be opening factories like crazy.

Wii demand will only go up, and god help them with the DSL supply when DQ9 launches...

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #874 on:** March 16, 2007, 04:57:05 PM »

All 3 Wal-Marts had PS3s during the past 2 days (no, I didn't go just to look for PS3s), but none had Wiis, including the one that had 10 Wiis a few weeks ago. Looks like someone found out they had it in stock. Also, every time I go to Gamestop (which is rare, but they gave me $30 for Twilight Princess today, and $25 for Wario Ware), the fake PS3 boxes say "now in stock" out front...no Wiis...no nunchuks. If Sony announces this HOME BS, and that same week I see 17 PS3s, then I can't see HOME being as cool as they thought it was.

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