Topic: Official Sales Thread

[bustin98]

They are not correct as they do not include the number one retail outlet, Walmart. Walmart does not disclose sales information.

[wandering]

They guess at walmart sales, though.

[Mario]

The 500k Zelda GC sales is a good indication of the number of people who couldn't get Wiis. Minus 1 from that number (Ian) and there you have it. Wii has been severely undershipped, and even DS isn't close to GBAs best Decembers. Has someone been stealing Nintendos plastic?

New Media Create (Jan 1 - 7) looks a lot better

1. (NDS, Square-Enix) Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker - 266,827 / 860,820
2. (Wii, Nintendo) Wii Sports - 166,011 / 732,719
3. (Wii, Nintendo) Wii Play - 141,702 / 664,512
4. (NDS, Nintendo) New Super Mario Bros. - 128,211 / 3,986,506
5. (NDS, Nintendo) General Knowledge Training - 109,752 / 1,063,093
6. (NDS, Nintendo) Brain Age 2 - 99,320 / 3,805,787
7. (NDS, Nintendo) Animal Crossing - 94,917 / 3,843,832
8. (NDS, Pokemon) Pokemon Diamond - 94,370 / 2,479,819
9. (NDS, Nintendo) Kirby Squeek Squad - 93,522 / 836,588
10. (NDS, Pokemon) Pokemon Pearl - 78,398 / 2,054,443
11. Mario Kart DS (NDS, Nintendo)
12. Jump Ultimate Stars (NDS, Nintendo)
13. DBZ Budokai Tenkaichi 2 (Wii, Bandai)
14. Wario Ware Smooth Moves (Wii, Nintendo)
15. Brain Training (NDS, Nintendo)
16. Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops (PSP, Konami)
17. Zelda Twilight Princess (Wii, Nintendo)
18. Oshare Majô Love & Berry (NDS, Nintendo)
19. Yakuza 2 (PS2, Sega)
20. Kanji Test (NDS, Rocket Co.)

[MaryJane]

I'm too *something* to look back through all thread but good lawdy wawdie 1.5 Million extra controllers!

While we can all agree they are on the expensive side, imagine how much money Ninty made off of controllers alone, hopefully this comes back to consumers pocket with more well produced games. With all that excess money they should open a few new dev studios, maybe one here in the states.

man my keyboard seems really crowded.

[Hocotate]

Nice, the top ten is nothing but DS and Wii. 18/20 are on a Nintendo system.

[Kairon]

The top 15 is nothing but DS and Wii if you can find the 20-50 list.

Also, 40 of the top 50 are on Nintendo systems.

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

[31 Flavas]

Good god... The top 15 and 40 of the top 50? The Japanese are crazy for Nintendo stuff. Awesome.

Has any one company ever taken the top 15 before? I'm guessing not if noone had ever taken the entire top 10 before.

[BlackNMild2k1]

I posted this in the DS thread, but I think it deserves a cross posting.

The NEW for '07 Pac-Man chart - Media Create 01/01 - 01/07

[couchmonkey]

I like how WiiSports and WiiPlay sales in Japan are UP from the week before - I think that'll be reflected in the hardware sales.

The NPD numbers - 600,000 is really disappointing for Wii.  Think of all the people who could have been playing with their Wiis on Christmas morning!  In 2006 we have:

 1.1 million Wiis sold in North America
+0.9 million sold in Japan
+0.6 million sold in Europe (in the first weekend)
=2.6 million (edit: maybe 2.7, since my Japan and Europe numbers are rounded down).

I doubt Nintendo sold another 1.4 million in Europe between launch weekend and Dec. 31, so it's way off the original 4 million figure.  Why?  Optimistic guess: When Nintendo realized it underestimated demand, it decided to spread shipments out to keep a steady flow into the new year.  Pessimistic guess: Nintendo screwed up on manufacturing and is missing out on its golden opportunity - Wii is d00med.  

[SixthAngel]

I am pretty sure the 1.1 million is just the US couchmonkey, that doesn't count the many Wii's that went to Canada.

[BlackNMild2k1]

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Originally posted by: Mario

New Media Create (Jan 1 - 7) looks a lot better

1. (NDS, Square-Enix) Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker - 266,827 / 860,820
2. (Wii, Nintendo) Wii Sports - 166,011 / 732,719
3. (Wii, Nintendo) Wii Play - 141,702 / 664,512
4. (NDS, Nintendo) New Super Mario Bros. - 128,211 / 3,986,506
5. (NDS, Nintendo) General Knowledge Training - 109,752 / 1,063,093
6. (NDS, Nintendo) Brain Age 2 - 99,320 / 3,805,787
7. (NDS, Nintendo) Animal Crossing - 94,917 / 3,843,832
8. (NDS, Pokemon) Pokemon Diamond - 94,370 / 2,479,819
9. (NDS, Nintendo) Kirby Squeek Squad - 93,522 / 836,588
10. (NDS, Pokemon) Pokemon Pearl - 78,398 / 2,054,443
11. Mario Kart DS (NDS, Nintendo)
12. Jump Ultimate Stars (NDS, Nintendo)
13. DBZ Budokai Tenkaichi 2 (Wii, Bandai) - 66,906
14. Wario Ware Smooth Moves (Wii, Nintendo)
15. Brain Training (NDS, Nintendo)
16. Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops (PSP, Konami)
17. Zelda Twilight Princess (Wii, Nintendo)
18. Oshare Majô Love & Berry (NDS, Nintendo)
19. Yakuza 2 (PS2, Sega)
20. Kanji Test (NDS, Rocket Co.)

21. Tamagotchi 2 (NDS, Bandai)
22. DS Menu Collection (NDS, Nintendo)
23. English Training (NDS, Nintendo)
24. Pokémon Battle Revolution (Wii, Nintendo)
25. Tales of the World (PSP, Namco)
26. Seiken Densetsu 4 (PS2, Square-Enix)
27. Yakuza - The Best (PS2, Sega)
28. Momotarô Dentetsu (PS2, Hudson)
29. Magic Taizen (NDS, Nintendo)
30. Tetris DS (NDS, Nintendo)
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31.) Naruto Fighter (NDS, Takara Tomy)
32.) Cooking Navi (NDS, Nintendo)
33.) Rockman Pegasus (NDS, Capcom)
34.) Monster Hunter Portable (The Best) (PSP, Capcom)
35.) Gundam Seed Destiny (PS2, Bandai Namco)
36.) Kanji Brain Test 2,000,000 (NDS, IE institute)
37.) Power Pro Kun Pocket 9 (NDS, Konami)
38.) Final Fantasy III (NDS, Square Enix)
39.) Electric Brain Repetition (NDS, Shogakukan Inc.)
40.) Mario Basket 3-on-3 (NDS, Nintendo)
41.) World Soccer Winning Eleven 10 (PSP, Konami)
42.) Rockman Leo (NDS, Capcom)
43.) Board of Education (NDS, Bandai Namco)
44.) Rockman Dragon (NDS, Capcom)
45.) Big Brain Academy (NDS, Nintendo)
46.) Revolution (NDS, Konami)
47.) Resistance (PS3, SCE)
48.) Final Fantasy Fables: Chocobo Tales (NDS, Square Enix)
49.) Gundam Target in Sight (PS3, Bandai Namco)
50.) Live Power Pro Baseball 13 (PS2, Konami)

Hardware: - This Week | Last Week | 2007 Totals | LTD
1.) Nintendo DS Lite - 344,878 | 176,219 | 344,878 | 7,768,202
2.) Nintendo Wii - 195,331 | 96,332 | 195,331 | 1,114,974
3.) PlayStation Portable - 118,186 | 68,675 | 118,186 | 4,650,315
4.) PlayStation 3 - 69,944 | 71,727 | 69,944 | 527,502
5.) PlayStation 2 - 52,037 | 38,169 | 52,037 | 20,206,896
6.) Xbox 360 - 18,235 | 16,909 | 18,235 | 282,937
7.) Game Boy micro - 3,311 | 2,082 | 3,311 | 563,241
8.) Game Boy Advance SP - 2,364 | 1,743 | 2,364 | 5,917,404
9.) GameCube - 1,258 | 847 | 1,258 | 4,170,726
10.) Nintendo DS - 75 | 102 | 75 | 6,582,430
11.) Game Boy Advance - 57 | 51 | 57 | 8,823,166

DS + DSL combined LTD = 14,350,632
GBA + GBASP + GBM combined LTD = 15,303,811
Xbox 1 LTD = 475,613

[Ceric]

You know Smash Nintendo probably did convert all the Gamecube plants back before the Wii was launched.  No reason to still produce it.  There was a good supply out already.  Hopefully they'll still produce controllers and memory card though.  (or have an update to allow you to use and SD card and the Classic controller.)

[Louieturkey]

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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1

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Originally posted by: Mario

Hardware:
1.) Nintendo DS Lite - 344,878 | 176,219 | 344,878 | 7,768,202
2.) Nintendo Wii - 195,331 | 96,332 | 195,331 | 1,114,974
3.) PlayStation Portable - 118,186 | 68,675 | 118,186 | 4,650,315
4.) PlayStation 3 - 69,944 | 71,727 | 69,944 | 527,502
5.) PlayStation 2 - 52,037 | 38,169 | 52,037 | 20,206,896
6.) Xbox 360 - 18,235 | 16,909 | 18,235 | 282,937
7.) Game Boy micro - 3,311 | 2,082 | 3,311 | 563,241
8.) Game Boy Advance SP - 2,364 | 1,743 | 2,364 | 5,917,404
9.) GameCube - 1,258 | 847 | 1,258 | 4,170,726
10.) Nintendo DS - 75 | 102 | 75 | 6,582,430
11.) Game Boy Advance - 57 | 51 | 57 | 8,823,166

Holy shnike!!  Wii has over double the sales of the PS3.  Give the DS one more year and it'll surpass the PS2 in total sales, especially if they can keep up this pace of above 200,000 or even 300,000 units a week.

I really enjoy being a Nintendo fan at this time.

[couchmonkey]

SixthAngel - I hadn't thought of that.  I think Nintendo's probably still short, but if you throw in Canada and the rest of the American continents the sales might get a half-million boost or something (edit: probably less, but who knows?)

It's too early to know "for sure", but I'm pretty much convinced that Wii is going to win Japan.  Just look at WiiSports and WiiPlay and you can tell that it's already repeating the whole DS situation with the non-gamers and the sales and the cars that go boom, GLAYVIN!  

[Kairon]

Michael Pachter of Web Bush Morgan is confused as to how the NPD can track so low when Nintendo claims it met its ship goal and when its obvious that the Wii is a sell out everywhere. He's hinting at shenanigans.

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

[Deguello]

I kind of agree.  I've had problems with the way NPD does things for a long time.  

They do not accurately count Walmart or Toys R US, two HUGE contributors to the game market, nor amazon, which is significant in its own right.  Now I know the next thing out of your keyboard is going to be "but they estimate what they don't have."  And?  So what?  Is that supposed to make their numbers magically more accurate?  Imagine a clear grain silo and an even bigger opaque silo next to it.  You can see how much grain is in the clear one, but not the opaque one, and upon asking the farmer how much grain is in it he just guesses.  That's not good enough.  It could be full of grain, it could be empty.  Their word isn't good enough.

Especially considering this isn't the first time NPD would have pulled shenanigans.  March 2005, when the PSP launched, they were happy to report the PSP launch numbers against the DS numbers, something liek 600,000 PSPs to like 200,000 DSs.  But Fall rolled around and Advance Wars debuted and Nintendogs began building its fuzzy little empire, All of a sudden the PSP numbers were held back.  Why?  It happened again next month and the following months as well.  And as we all know the DS trounced the PSP that holiday season.  The numbers were finally brought to light and it was as suspected, the PSP was tracking slower.  Seems strange that they would hide that...

This is more my suspicion of NPD than my Nintendo fanboyism.  I wish we had a system like Japan's.  They have three tracking services and they cover the vast majority of the market, and you can compare them and get a very statistically accurate idea of how things fared on the Marketplace.  And it's free.  Here the NPD has a monopoly, and it is a very inaccurate service, that doesn't count huge portions of the market with totally different demographics  (Your Walmart shopper is not your EBgames patron.)  AND it costs money.  So I'm a bit bothered at all the secrecy and cloak-and-dagger crap.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

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[Mario]

Perrin Kaplan said Nintendo shipped "well above" the NPD numbers, and since it's sold out everywhere the NPD number is obviously "well below" the truth. Who knows if they undertracked the DS as well. I'm not going to take NPD seriously from now on.  

[Kairon]

When's the last time Perrin Kaplan's been right?

Don't get me wrong. I love the lady, and her interviews are just brilliant to watch. But she needs a better fact-checking team.

That said, NPD numbers are seriously not matching up with some other information about the market.

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

[BlkPaladin]

I liked how they held back what the Wii did. They mentioned the controllers and Zelda with numbers but nothing on the console itself.

[IceCold]

I'd say the Wii probably sold a couple of hundred thousand more than 3 million worldwide before 2007.

[Kairon]

A little over 3 million worldwide seems about right... and it's a more even release schedule, compared to very ambitious promises of 4 million units worldwide over the course of 6 weeks.

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

[BranDonk Kong]

Just to clarify, NPD numbers = wrong.

[Kairon]

Not confirmed, and NPD is really our best guess for the U.S. market... but.... in this case the "best guess" doesn't seem very reliable at all. I'll wait for official Nintendo shipping statements.

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

[Mario]

Not confirmed? What is confirmed, is that they are not right. Which by definition, makes them wrong.