Author Topic: Got Final Fantasy XII (Read 11155 times)

Pryopizm · « **on:** October 31, 2006, 07:06:29 PM »

The only reason I stopped playing is because the AC is broken and the living room got suffocatingly hot.

Otherwise, I love this game so much!

Pale, if you read this, drop FF XI and go pick up FF XII, it plays like XI but without all the crappy waiting for a balanced party.

IceCold · « **Reply #1 on:** October 31, 2006, 07:09:24 PM »

They were right, you ARE easily impressed..

Pryopizm · « **Reply #2 on:** October 31, 2006, 07:20:16 PM »

Bah, anyone who rips on Final Fantasy 1) either hates JRPG's 2) just hates Final Fantasy for unkown (but probably stupid) reasons, or 3) is a punk

This is a well crafted game that moves smoothly and is just gorgeous to look at. I'm only a few hours in, but so far I've been able to complete a couple hunts for bounties and start off a major quest. And I haven't even mentioned the beauty that is the opening of the game. As far as the presentation, this is the best written Final Fantasy to date, and--without a doubt--Square's CG work simply gets better and better (and there's plenty of it).

And I'm also not sure what SmashBros was complaining about, either. The fights are very easy to handle, and starting off an attack can be as simple as pressing the X button twice.

I doubt many others here are going to play it, but I'm damn sure I'll get plenty of negative reaction about it. Whatever. Provide me some comedy, guys. Rip on a game you haven't played!

Strell · « **Reply #3 on:** October 31, 2006, 07:21:36 PM »

JRPGs suck.

Discussion over.

Pryopizm · « **Reply #4 on:** October 31, 2006, 07:22:44 PM »

Thanks for the insight, professor.

Pale · « **Reply #5 on:** October 31, 2006, 07:25:34 PM »

While I don't think I'll ever get myself to quit XI, I'm trying so hard to not pick this game up right now. I've got so much other stuff to play.

There are so many people that hate on FF just because they think it makes them cooler that it isn't even funny. It kind of makes me sick. You are the second person to tell me how awesome this game is. I trust you and my buddy at work much more than I trust random forumers.

Strell · « **Reply #6 on:** October 31, 2006, 07:26:27 PM »

When you reach a point where every last game in the genre attempts to be one of the worst examples - that being FF7 - I no longer need to play your sh*t.

Pryopizm · « **Reply #7 on:** October 31, 2006, 07:32:32 PM »

Yeah, you have no damn clue what you're talking about Strell. FF VII and VIII are easily the weakest in the series, but IX and X are nothing like them. And Final Fantasy XII has about as much in common with FF7 as a toaster has with a rock.

But continue, so far your ignorance is my pleasure!

Kairon · « **Reply #8 on:** October 31, 2006, 07:33:55 PM »

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Originally posted by: Pale
I trust you and my buddy at work much more than I trust random forumers.

You...you trust REAL PEOPLE over US?!?!?!

*sniff*

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

IceCold · « **Reply #9 on:** October 31, 2006, 07:38:28 PM »

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Square's CG work simply gets better and better (and there's plenty of it)

And therein lies the problem.

Pale, I don't see how "trust" factors into this. At the very least, look at some of the concerns others had, and see if they would bother you. If they don't, good for you!

blackfootsteps · « **Reply #10 on:** October 31, 2006, 08:23:04 PM »

Excessive cut scenes annoy me, the less the better for me. Whether it was the many inane interruptions in Golden Sun or the 'Yuna is laughing by the sea' scene from FFX. I like to learn the story from individual conversations or the environment itself, through books or the like. A J-rpg with Resident Evil 4 / Shenmue type quick time event cut scenes and more interactive battles would be the ultimate.

Pryopizm · « **Reply #11 on:** October 31, 2006, 09:38:13 PM »

CG is not a problem. If you want pure visceral gameplay with zero story, then yes, FF is not for you. However, FF XII doesn't have a ton of long, long cut scenes barging in the gameplay.

Not only that, but all Square's cutscenes were not CG. Mostly they were short scenes lasting a minute or less. This game has gorgeous CG more frequently than in other Square games. The introduction of the game is fairly long, but it's not obscenely long by any standards. In fact, with the voice acting, action, and music, it's actually quite good.

Nice thing though, if you don't like cutscenes, you can skip them. So, please, more "concerns", please! I want to knock them down like bowling pins.

nitsu niflheim · « **Reply #12 on:** November 01, 2006, 02:38:40 AM »

I love the battle system in FFXII. I kept thinking, this is what FFXI should have been like, then that one would have been fun.

Yeah you can skip the cut scenes, but the only way I found to PAUSE them were to open the disc drive. This same thing was wrong with VP 2: Silmeria. Sometimes during a long scene I have something I have to go do, and sitting through a long scene that is long for the sake of being long, is very ANNOYING!

I like the gambits, like you can have one character always cast say protect on the party so you always have that status, or to remove poison. Gambits are like the best thing to happen in a RPG for a while! =D

Magik · « **Reply #13 on:** November 01, 2006, 02:54:16 AM »

There aren't as many cutscenes in FFXII compared to previous FF's such as FFX.

You could always skip them if they are that much of a problem.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #14 on:** November 01, 2006, 06:30:14 AM »

My only gripe with the game is that you could play it on a NES controller because they chose to relegate even the most basic commands to a menu.

Imagine playing Battalion Wars and having to open a menu to start attacking an enemy even though there were plenty of buttons open which could have been mapped as attack.

Hell, I'm playing Contact right now and even Suda 51 had the common sense to make it so, when you finish attacking an enemy, you automatically start attacking the next enemy which is attacking you and the attack command is mapped to the B button.

I don't care how good the story is: a sloppy interface warrants a few points off.

Ceric · « **Reply #15 on:** November 01, 2006, 07:00:04 AM »

Less Cut Scenes. Thats good news to me. I am annoyed by many cutscenes. I want to watch them all but I hate having them over and over and over again. If my PS2 worked after hearing them I might have picked it up. Now I'll get it when at bargain price and the PS2 is clearanced.

nitsu niflheim · « **Reply #16 on:** November 01, 2006, 07:44:16 AM »

I still want to pause them with start, not get a X to skip when I hit start. PAUSE DAMMIT!

I can pause a movie at any part, not just the boring or non-climatic-epic-event parts. So why can't I pause a cut scene in a game?

Smoke39 · « **Reply #17 on:** November 01, 2006, 08:49:40 AM »

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CG is not a problem. If you want pure visceral gameplay with zero story, then yes, FF is not for you.

You say that as if cutscenes are the only way to tell a good story.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #18 on:** November 01, 2006, 09:02:26 AM »

Nitsu: You mean "why can't I pause in FF12" because you can pause cutscenes in Star Ocean TTEOT and Xenosaga 2 very well.

I like story as long as it's not some stupidly clicheed crap Final Fantasy tends to serve up and I like gameplay more than story.

Strell · « **Reply #19 on:** November 01, 2006, 10:07:29 AM »

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Originally posted by: Pryopizm
Yeah, you have no damn clue what you're talking about Strell. FF VII and VIII are easily the weakest in the series, but IX and X are nothing like them. And Final Fantasy XII has about as much in common with FF7 as a toaster has with a rock.

But continue, so far your ignorance is my pleasure!

That's cool. You spending money on a POS game is my pleasure.

Pale · « **Reply #20 on:** November 01, 2006, 10:25:35 AM »

I wish we could rewind this thread and see how it would turn out if FFXII was Wii or Cube exclusive.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #21 on:** November 01, 2006, 11:18:05 AM »

People would still hate on it since a perceived bad design would end up being a perceived bad design -- on a different console. This is by seeing we've got active multi-console owners who discuss the same issues.

Pryopizm · « **Reply #22 on:** November 01, 2006, 12:38:03 PM »

I pause the cut-scenes by pressing start, Nitsu. CG or in-game. What happens when you do it?

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Originally posted by: Strell
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Originally posted by: Pryopizm
Yeah, you have no damn clue what you're talking about Strell. FF VII and VIII are easily the weakest in the series, but IX and X are nothing like them. And Final Fantasy XII has about as much in common with FF7 as a toaster has with a rock.

But continue, so far your ignorance is my pleasure!

That's cool. You spending money on a POS game is my pleasure.

What an excellent bon mot! You sure got me!

Sir_Stabbalot · « **Reply #23 on:** November 01, 2006, 01:20:55 PM »

The first Final Fantasy was the best.

Pryopizm · « **Reply #24 on:** November 01, 2006, 01:36:58 PM »

That game is harsh. 12 level dungeons with no save areas and zillions of random battles is rough going.

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Author Topic: Got Final Fantasy XII (Read 11155 times)