Author Topic: Gears of War Video (Read 40196 times)

bustin98 · « **on:** October 25, 2006, 07:15:22 PM »

Anyone else download the video yet? While it doesn't show anything about gameplay, the graphics sure are purty. The ending makes it seem like a challenging game if that is any indication as to what you have to fight.

Its a little unerving to watch the video and all that you hear is a song. At least the words are appropriate. And I think it sets to differentiate from Halo where it had its own personalized theme. If GoW utilizes some pre-recorded soundtrack I think it will help establish itself in a 'real world', gives an anchor. Of course, I totally don't expect to be playing the game and this song comes on at some point. I'm sure its just for the commercial to make an impact. But still, you know what I'm saying.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #1 on:** October 25, 2006, 07:52:04 PM »

I take it you are talking about the Mad World trailer here

bustin98 · « **Reply #2 on:** October 25, 2006, 08:16:55 PM »

Well, I didn't realize that IGN had that. I didn't get past their FEAR review to see what else was new in the section. I see also that IGN has a sampling of in game music. I haven't listened to it, but I will go back to it.

I must say though that I prefer seeing the commercial on my tv than my pc. No stuttering framerates and no commercial before the download.

Artimus · « **Reply #3 on:** October 25, 2006, 08:35:09 PM »

This game looks SO unimpressive? It's like Generic Sci-Fi Shooter 29? I just don't understand how people can be excited about so many games in this genre with similar stories and nothing making them stand out. Half-Life was both a blessing and a curse for starting this! It's like being excited over Mario party 5 when you own 1-4.

Not to mention Cliffy Q or whatever his name is is a totally self-absorbed prick.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #4 on:** October 25, 2006, 11:37:28 PM »

Even though I will probaly pick up the game Artimus does have a point and it hasn't blown me away, my concern is still that it could get repetitive. BTW I love the song that is played during the trailer, though I think it was put to MUCH better use in Donnie Darko! One other thing I do not like about this trailer (and the MGS4 one) is that we are not seeing gameplay but cutscenes that may or may not be put together with the game's graphics engine (if they are, there is a big difference between a cutscene and actual gameplay when it comes to how well the visuals hold up).

wandering · « **Reply #5 on:** October 26, 2006, 12:14:33 AM »

Wow. That game really doesn't deserve that song.

couchmonkey · « **Reply #6 on:** October 26, 2006, 05:05:06 AM »

Wow, it's like the trailer guy watched too many Metal Gear Solid trailers and decided he wanted to be a serious film maker.

You just can't turn a generic game that looks like football smashed into Aliens into something emotionally deep by throwing in a meaningful song. Or at least, the song needs to be something else - something like war or chaos. Or the trailer needs to show our bald space marine in a tender moment...they tried to do that, but since the character is designed to be a war machine, it just doesn't work. Then the guy starts shooting stuff up...I suppose you could say it's a Mad World, but not in a sad introspective way like the song suggests, rather a chaotic way.

Umm, I'm getting too involved in the misuse of the song, plus discussing emotions is making me all sentimental and it's depressing. Gears of War has a big "been there, done that" feeling, especially as a Microsoft title, but I imagine it could be fun for what it is - a macho killfest, not a film on the horrors of war.

Ceric · « **Reply #7 on:** October 26, 2006, 01:01:07 PM »

I don't know I thought it fit the feel pretty well. It might end up being about the horror of war more then you may think.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #8 on:** October 26, 2006, 03:24:58 PM »

forget the horror of war

it's about the horror of alien war game genre SATURATION

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #9 on:** October 26, 2006, 03:52:40 PM »

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Originally posted by: Ceric
I don't know I thought it fit the feel pretty well. It might end up being about the horror of war more then you may think.

No way does that song fit what was going on there there was way too much action going on. If you want perfect placement of the song see Donnie Darko, one of the most moving and heartbreaking moments ever.

Svevan · « **Reply #10 on:** October 26, 2006, 03:59:06 PM »

The problem with this video is that they seem to have directed the video without the song in mind - dynamic camera angles that swoop and sway and crash just don't match the music. Although I greatly dislike Donnie Darko as a film, its usage of the song is more appropriate.

The opening images of this video match the music better than the ending images. The grammar of the ending camera angles and cutting indicate that we are supposed to be getting "pumped up" whereas the music is in direct opposition to that.

What would work better is to see this main character chased or running around the town with a more languid, less frenetic camera. There can still be, indeed must be violence, but ending with him shooting up aliens doesn't show us that it's a "mad world." Showing this guy lost in the violence, trapped by it, or lost in the destroyed city would work far better.

The first erroneous shot is the one where our main guy seems to hear a noise. The camera rotates around his head, turns to face the noise, then zooms in. Sorry, no, that is a "holy crap enemy to kill" shot not a "this is so sad/bewildering/mad" shot. I bet this cinematic is in-game, and I bet at that point the music ramps up or we just hear the noise of the oncoming enemy.

The next portion is great. Showing our guy moving through streets lost and alone works on a simple and beautiful level. But when he suddenly encounters the enemy, he jumps into a building and the camera jumps with him! The presence of the Mad World music implies that we are observers of this man, we are supposed to judge the difficulty and ambiguity of his actions. We simply cannot do that if the camera instructs us to experience what he experiences! By hurtling the camera through the building, the video wants us to be dynamically involved, while the music itself wants us to be analytically detached.

The final portion that features an alien creature of gigantic size is also inappropriate. If they had let the main guy merely observe the giant creature, the music may have fit. Instead they chose to have him open fire, implying action and violence. This only makes sense with the music if what he is destroying is sympathetic, or if he dies. By fading out, we are supposed to be in awe of the giant creature while feeling what? The music is directly opposed to this final sequence.

I do really wish I had an XBOX 360 though. This game has always looked sweet.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #11 on:** October 26, 2006, 04:03:40 PM »

Evan greatly dislikes Donnie Darko? BLASPHEMY, I no longer will take your opinion seriously :-P.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #12 on:** October 26, 2006, 05:08:07 PM »

I can't believe people would buy this for THAT price!

Svevan · « **Reply #13 on:** October 26, 2006, 05:08:38 PM »

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Evan greatly dislikes Donnie Darko? BLASPHEMY, I no longer will take your opinion seriously :-P.

Yours likewise!

KnowsNothing · « **Reply #14 on:** October 26, 2006, 05:17:57 PM »

olololol at the comments

"This case looks insane. The greatest system case for the greatest system, covered with a photo of the greatest game. I will most definitely pick one of these up if they aren't sold out when I get to my local EB Games."

"no my friends, this will be put to use as the most hardcore lunchbox of all time. 6th period lunch, get ready to get owned by this box!!"

These guys are true champions.

IceCold · « **Reply #15 on:** October 26, 2006, 05:35:38 PM »

Pssh, 6th period lunch already got owned by my GameCube

SixthAngel · « **Reply #16 on:** October 26, 2006, 07:31:34 PM »

Has anyone else seen the videos that show the "shaky cam" when the guy goes into run mode. It is supposed to give you some kind of reporter at the front lines impression but all it does is disorient the hell out of me.

I am also not a big fan of the ridiculous language, Hardorcore marines don't say Awesome! Cool, and Sweet! You also seem to be able to reach your arms above cover and shoot with perfect aim despite the fact that you character can't even see over the top. Does noone else not like that?

Nick DiMola · « **Reply #17 on:** October 26, 2006, 07:42:30 PM »

Wow, talk about misuse of that song. Mad World only belongs in Donnie Darko, no exceptions. The song and the video clashed hardcore. They tried to evoke emotion but fell flat on their faces. Next time throw some Godsmack in the background, it'll up the generic nature of the game two-fold.

wandering · « **Reply #18 on:** October 26, 2006, 08:08:46 PM »

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I greatly dislike Donnie Darko as a film

I greatly dislike you.

But your analysis of the trailer is spot on. Though, even though I understand what's wrong with it, I'm still suprised it didn't work for me. I'm a huge sucker for good music. I suspect I would've hated that first Celda trailer just as much as everybody else, if it wasn't for the classic Zelda theme.

Svevan · « **Reply #19 on:** October 26, 2006, 08:20:38 PM »

I'm surprised at the negative sentiment about this game. Gears of War looks aesthetically (shaky cam included) landmark, and gameplay wise unique and compelling. The environment/player interaction is a step up from what we've seen in the past, and the story seems pretty interesting as well.

Does a mature tough guy alien shoot-em-up really have to be disparaged by Nintendo fans to justify their lack of a similar game? Each person here will defend Zelda when it comes out; a good Zelda game is a good Zelda game no matter how many times it is repeated, just the same as a good shooter is a good shooter despite the excessive entries in the genre.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #20 on:** October 26, 2006, 08:28:08 PM »

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Originally posted by: Svevan
I'm surprised at the negative sentiment about this game. Gears of War looks aesthetically (shaky cam included) landmark, and gameplay wise unique and compelling. The environment/player interaction is a step up from what we've seen in the past, and the story seems pretty interesting as well.

Does a mature tough guy alien shoot-em-up really have to be disparaged by Nintendo fans to justify their lack of a similar game? Each person here will defend Zelda when it comes out; a good Zelda game is a good Zelda game no matter how many times it is repeated, just the same as a good shooter is a good shooter despite the excessive entries in the genre.

Each Zelda manages to be unique in its own way and they are few and far between. With Gears of War we are getting a billion similar games each year. But as you can probaly tell I want to play the game but I do fear it could get repetitive from the videos I've seen, it seems to basically boil down to a shoot them up with little in the way of depth (which Zelda also has).

Smoke39 · « **Reply #21 on:** October 26, 2006, 08:33:37 PM »

Unreal Engine 3 is definitely pretty, but from what I've seen GoW doesn't look very interesting other than the chainsaw. Now if they had both a chainsaw and a flamethrower we'd be talkin'. Maybe it does have a flamethrower. I think one of my roommates is getting it. The game. Not a flamethrower.

Kairon · « **Reply #22 on:** October 26, 2006, 08:50:25 PM »

I've defended this game before, only close-minded Nintendo fanboys don't see it as the X360's biggest title this Holiday season.

This game has shaky cam, is more coverbased than twitch-based (and is sometimes described as having platform elements in this regard), has some very appealing mechanics like using the D-pad in an empty room to automatically orient the camera to points of interest, and really looks to catch a visceral experience.

Cliffy B., the game's maker and frontman, also looks like an Abercrombie & Fitch model, which of course never hurts.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Pryopizm · « **Reply #23 on:** October 26, 2006, 08:51:12 PM »

Yeah, there are a ton of third person shooters that play like Resident Evil 4. Crazy market saturation. You guys can skip it, I'll be enjoying the hell out of this game.

Nick DiMola · « **Reply #24 on:** October 26, 2006, 09:11:08 PM »

"I've defended this game before, only close-minded Nintendo fanboys don't see it as the X360's biggest title this Holiday season."

It's clearly the 360's biggest game this holiday season, but personally I'm not all that interested. I hate the $60 price tag on 360 games, plus I'm more interested in Viva Pinata anyway. Down the road when this game is around $30 I'll think about picking it up. Until then, I can wait.

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