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Offline Nick DiMola

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Clover Studio is Dead
« on: October 12, 2006, 04:25:42 AM »
Article found HERE.

Due to poor sales from niche market games, Capcom decides to bring the axe down on Clover. Guess creativity is over rated these days. Hopefully the cool franchises to come out from the Studio will be kept alive by Capcom.
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RE: Clover Studio is Dead
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2006, 05:02:25 AM »
Man.  Nintendo should give those guys some money.  Screw Capcom.
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RE: Clover Studio is Dead
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2006, 05:57:48 AM »
as expected, Capcom is made of FAIL
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RE:Clover Studio is Dead
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2006, 06:19:56 AM »


I hate you, Capcom.

Yes, Nintendo should now buy up these guys. (And get a Wii Okami port.)

Oh, here's a direct link to the press release, for those who dislike Kotaku as much as I do.



 
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RE: Clover Studio is Dead
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2006, 06:50:51 AM »
Interesting. Capcom throws god knows how much money at finding a new franchise to milk over and over again (lately Capcom has been producing numerous non-sequel games), these guys make one and get the axe.

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RE: Clover Studio is Dead
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2006, 09:23:55 AM »
AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

Ever since Team Viewtiful was absorbed, Clover was clueless about what games were good ideas (or not) and which audience would actually embrace particular games.

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RE: Clover Studio is Dead
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2006, 09:41:49 AM »
Did they actually make more than one or two games?

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« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2006, 09:51:28 AM »
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VJ Red Hot Rumble
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RE:Clover Studio is Dead
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2006, 09:54:09 AM »
I wonder if the reason for such a niche market was because they released their games for PS2 instead of GC? It is a known fact that VJ sold MUCH better on GC than PS2, and I would bet they would have seen similar success for their other games on GC.
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RE: Clover Studio is Dead
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2006, 10:42:45 AM »
.....what they should have done was not make VJ Red Hot Rumble.

And of course release Okami on GCN, it fits perfectly for that market.  Nintendo gamers would eat it up and Sony gamers would pass on it and buy something like, i dunno Madden.  I'm sure Okami will still sell well, its just limiting to Sony is not good in this case.

I too would like to see Nintendo go out and buy them but I'm afraid Nintendo would see the company as money draining studio that is too risky, even though most of what Clover does fits so well with Nintendo's Market.

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RE:Clover Studio is Dead
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2006, 10:49:08 AM »
As much as I'd like to believe that Okami would do a lot better on GameCube, I think it's worth remembering that sometimes, these games just don't succeed.  Beyond Good and Evil was on all consoles, but it still wasn't the hit Ubisoft hoped for.  Maybe if it had been just on GameCube it would have done better, because Nintendo fans are a little snobby that way, but I doubt it would have been a major hit in any case.

This is a shame for Clover, and for us.
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RE: Clover Studio is Dead
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2006, 11:43:04 AM »
I would have bought Okami for sure on the Cube but I don't think it would necessarily have sold all that well.  A third party Cube title released at this point just isn't going to sell.

I don't think a game like Okami really has a console that would fit it.  Xbox/Xbox 360 is too North American.  Playstation consoles are too mainstream and have too many other competing games.  The Cube used to be somewhat of a more hardcore console but then Nintendo stopped caring.  Next gen everyone is after the casual gamer so Okami probably isn't going to fit the target demographic of any console.

I do think it probably would have sold well as a Cube exclusive a couple of years ago, prior to the DS launch.

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« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2006, 11:58:34 AM »
I just don't see why they didn't release it for both PS2 and GameCube.  I'm sure it would have sold well enough to cover the costs and then some.
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« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2006, 12:16:28 PM »
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The Cube used to be somewhat of a more hardcore console but then I stopped caring.


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RE: Clover Studio is Dead
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2006, 09:47:56 PM »
I wouldn't be surprised if we saw Wii and PC ports of Okami within the next year.

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« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2006, 06:01:53 AM »
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I wouldn't be surprised if we saw Wii and PC ports of Okami within the next year.



I hope you are write.  Okami is designed to be on the Wii.  I would love to play this game...daily, weekly, monthly....all night long.


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« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2006, 06:51:59 AM »
I hope you are write.

I'm read-only you insensitive clod!

The PC port is more likely than the Wii port IMO. Capcom has been porting lots of stuff to the PC and AFAIK even a PC port of RE4 is coming.

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« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2006, 07:56:35 AM »
Strange how it's taking longer for a PC port of RE4 to come compared to the time it took to release the PS2 port following the GC release.
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« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2006, 09:23:08 AM »
Isn't it because Ubi is doing the PC port, not Capcom?

If Okami is ported to PC I'll be happy.  (If posted to Wii I would be happier.)  I've been looking for a reason to beef up my PC.
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« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2006, 10:03:43 AM »
They're porting RE4 to the PC?  Am I gonna have to buy that game again to give it a second chance with mouse aiming?
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« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2006, 11:17:28 AM »
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Isn't it because Ubi is doing the PC port, not Capcom?

If Okami is ported to PC I'll be happy.  (If posted to Wii I would be happier.)  I've been looking for a reason to beef up my PC.


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« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2006, 12:10:01 PM »
RE4 or Okami?
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« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2006, 03:16:13 PM »
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« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2006, 06:26:23 PM »
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They're porting RE4 to the PC?  Am I gonna have to buy that game again to give it a second chance with mouse aiming?
if the port is as half-assed as the Onimusha 3 and DMC3SE ports, then that isn't happening......neither is consistent framerate nor human-understandable controls....
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« Reply #24 on: October 14, 2006, 07:47:12 AM »
I'm not sure why everyone is blaming Capcom when they pretty much had no choice but to close down Clover.  Clover was eating way too much money and Capcom wasn't getting anything in return.  Capcom gave Clover assloads of money to develop games but eventually, with no money coming back in, they had to close Clover.

Capcom also had no choice but to close down Clover since the two main guys at Clover had already left.

As for Okami doing better on the GC, I really doubt it would.  As somebody said earlier, Beyond Good and Evil was on the GC and it still flopped when the GC userbase is supposed to be the ones who would appreciate those games more.  

As for Viewtiful Joe, sure it sold better on the GC than it did on the PS2, but the numbers themselves weren't that great.  Viewtiful Joe sold just under 250k while on the PS2, just under 100k.

Its too bad a studio such as Clover didn't do well.  They were definitely a studio that stood out from the rest.

Now only if people bought the unique games such as Okami and Beyond Good and Evil we wouldn't be seeing so many Maddens or Mario Partys.