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Offline Sir_Stabbalot

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Oblivion for PS3
« on: October 02, 2006, 01:14:13 PM »
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Honestly I'm not surprised. Olbivion was built mostly for the console market. Us PC users got screwed a bit.

Yes, I'm complaining about Oblivion. I may have come off as a fanboy last thread, but that's only because the problems I have with Oblivion were completly different then the ones you guys were blabbing about (seriously, if you can't sit through the tutorial dungeon, you're ADD). I still think it's a good game, but I was very dissapointed with may aspects. Here is my long list of complaints:

1) Mainstreaming. Oblivion abandoned the true RPG element and moved onto the action-style. No longer did I spend hours trying to find the locaton of Keening or Sunder, slowly but surely making a map of the region as I went, as I did in Morrowind. The location of the Mythic Dawn base is shown on your map by a green marker. Hell, I didn't have to walk. I could fast travel. Mods can't fix this.

2) Monsters leveling with you. Everything in fact. The Champion of the Arena can be a level one warrior, and the feared leader of the Necromancers, the King of Worms, is a weak High-Elf with no abnormal or eerie lines or undead monstrocities besides a few zombies. I can take on anything with no fear of losing. There is no challenge. Some mods can fix this, but dungeons still feel generic.

3) Radiant AI. Can you say overhyped? I was hoping to see a living wolrd, what I found were merchants that went to their shop, stood there all day, went home for the night and came back the next day to start the loop again. The others wander mindlessly, stopping to have conversations with no theme at all. Example:

NPC 1: "I saw a mudcrab today. Horrible creatures."
NPC 2: "I see."
NPC 1: Goodbye.

4) Roleplaying. Or the lack of. I rarely get to choose what path I want to take. What if I want to fall for the bandit's trap and be forced to take them out in hand-to-hand combat? What if I want to sacrefice the girl to the Deep Ones? What if I want to get the scales for that old fisherman then beat him down and steal his money?

5) Bethesda's official mods. They suck. $2 for some horse armor that doesn't do anything. $2 to actually make that locked door that was in the normal Oblivion actually have somethng behind it. $3 to add in a weapon whos art files were already in the game. Not to mention that there are free user-made mods 100 times better. They have the source code and could add in mounted combat (horses without mounted combat is like guns without bullets), but no. They milk it for as much money as they can.

Bethesda, fire Todd Howard's sorry ass. I hope you don't go the same route for TES V.  
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RE:Oblivion for PS3
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2006, 01:22:52 PM »
Any time enemies level up with you that's a bad thing.

Oh, and it sounds like Animal Crossing had more complex civilian NPC A.I. than this game.

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« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2006, 01:40:39 PM »
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Any time enemies level up with you that's a bad thing.

Oh, and it sounds like Animal Crossing had more complex civilian NPC A.I. than this game.

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RE: Oblivion for PS3
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2006, 01:40:55 PM »
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RE:Oblivion for PS3
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2006, 01:43:03 PM »
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I love bitching about Oblivion =D


Keep doing it. Eventually Bethesda will notice. I hope.
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RE: Oblivion for PS3
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2006, 01:48:14 PM »
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Honestly I'm not surprised. Olbivion was built mostly for the console market. Us PC users got screwed a bit.

This is the only thing I disagree with, simply because of mods.  The GUI was built for consoles, yes, so just use DarkUI (it's awesome).  I use DarkUI + Color Map mod + smaller HUD mod and it's much more functional.  Plus mods can add a lot of gameplay and coolness.
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« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2006, 02:02:46 PM »
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Honestly I'm not surprised. Olbivion was built mostly for the console market. Us PC users got screwed a bit.

This is the only thing I disagree with, simply because of mods.  The GUI was built for consoles, yes, so just use DarkUI (it's awesome).  I use DarkUI + Color Map mod + smaller HUD mod and it's much more functional.  Plus mods can add a lot of gameplay and coolness.


Hell yeah. I would've stopped playing Olbivion long ago without mods.

By the way, are you running wz_'s inventory mod? It's great, brings back the grid inventory. Works with BTmod, too. Link.  
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RE: Oblivion for PS3
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2006, 02:03:47 PM »
I agree somewhat with what you've said about Oblivion. It did seem to be dumbed down for a broader audience compared to Morrowind but I've still played over 100 hours of Oblivion so I can't say I was disappointed.

I frequent one of the bigger Xbox forums and they act like it's the end of the world that Oblivion is coming to PS3 but I'm happy about the decision since this will result in more money for Bethesda to put toward Fallout 3,which has been rumored for awhile, and ESV.

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RE: Oblivion for PS3
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2006, 06:09:31 PM »
I don't see what the big deal about the PS3 getting Oblivion. The PS3 fanboys make this out to be a Huge deal or something, I mean really congrats PS3 users for getting a year old game you can put this game right next to your copy of Ninja Gaiden (which is a port of a 3 year old xbox game)

I guess the PS3 fans are so desperate for any games right now that they will make a big deal over something this lame.

If you were a fan of the Elder Scrolls series you already got it and played it on the PC or the Xbox360, you didn't hold out for a year to get it on the PS3. The game will wind up selling pretty poorly on the PS3, there are no sure buys left out there. The only ones who will buy the PS3 version are the uber diehard fans who must own every version of Oblivion, the PS3 users who are desperate for a game or the PS3 users who find this in the $20 bin at Wal-Mart a few years from now.

If anything Sony should have tried to get a limited exclusive on Elder Scrolls V.  
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RE: Oblivion for PS3
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2006, 02:13:06 AM »
remember when people thought fable was the best rpg ever? i barely remember it, just wait for next big rpg... noone will care anymore

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« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2006, 07:07:01 AM »
that reminds me isn't Fable 2 on its way out soon anyway?
Who cares about Oblivion that game is old now. We have something new and fresh, we have Fable 2!
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RE:Oblivion for PS3
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2006, 07:33:49 AM »
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I don't see what the big deal about the PS3 getting Oblivion.


It's something to take away from the Xbox 360 actually. Right now, Oblivion is one of those few titles to tout about why to get the system (most people ignore the PC angle anyway), so having it appear on another system is getting devots uneasy, much in the same way that people around here were uneasy when RE4 was announced for the PS2 (although that was even worse considering Capcom did so before the GCN version was even released...).
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RE:Oblivion for PS3
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2006, 04:32:36 AM »
Is Obivion an OpenGL or DirectX game?  

I always assumed Oblivion was DirectX, thus making a 360 port quite easy.


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RE:Oblivion for PS3
« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2006, 06:24:37 AM »
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I don't see what the big deal about the PS3 getting Oblivion.


It's something to take away from the Xbox 360 actually. Right now, Oblivion is one of those few titles to tout about why to get the system (most people ignore the PC angle anyway), so having it appear on another system is getting devots uneasy, much in the same way that people around here were uneasy when RE4 was announced for the PS2 (although that was even worse considering Capcom did so before the GCN version was even released...).


The thing is, would RE4 have really turned Nintendo totally around?  Not bloody likely.  Maybe Nintendo would have earned an extra half million customers, but that would be a drop in the pond compared to PS2's 100 million plus users.  RE4 itself was a drop in the pond compared to the huge list of PS2 exclusives...Katamari, Dragon Quest VIII, Devil May Cry I-III, Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts, Metal Gear Solid 3, Ico, etc.  I'm beginning to think all this petty fighting over a few exclusive games is a difficult way to increase market share.
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« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2006, 06:35:15 AM »
That's why Nintendo had to abandon the traditional console war, and revolutionize Wii. A knock-down drag-out fight is too costly and too ineffective.

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« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2006, 01:27:36 PM »
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Is Obivion an OpenGL or DirectX game?  

I always assumed Oblivion was DirectX, thus making a 360 port quite easy.


Oblivion uses DirectX, and I'm 99.9% sure you're right.
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