Topic: The top 5 biggest complains, issues and problems of the Wii

[ShyGuy]

I think you're one of the few people that still has a mixed opinion of the touch screen, Ian. Oh, and I'm sure your Mom, your Dad, and your brother have mixed opinions as well.

[couchmonkey]

I can't believe the guys who are only interested in Zelda.  If you don't care about any of Rayman, Excite Truck, Super Monkey Ball, Trauma Center, Red Steel, Tony Hawk, or Metal Slug Anthology, you have no soul!  Oh well, I guess I'm the same way, just about different games.  Splinter Cell will probably get good reviews, but I couldn't care less about it.

[Ian Sane]

"I can't believe the guys who are only interested in Zelda. If you don't care about any of Rayman, Excite Truck, Super Monkey Ball, Trauma Center, Red Steel, Tony Hawk, or Metal Slug Anthology, you have no soul!"

I am sort of interested in some of those games (Excite Truck looks like a lot of fun for example) but it takes more than just some decent titles to persuade me to drop $250 not including the extra costs for extra controllers and games.  There's got to be that game that pushes me over the edge that I HAVE to buy the new console for.  I would consider those other titles to be supporting games.  They're the games you buy once you have the console but aren't worth buying the console for.  That's the difference between a killer app and just some game.  Right now Zelda is the big title on the Wii being pushed as a killer app.

[jasonditz]

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Originally posted by: ShyGuy
I think you're one of the few people that still has a mixed opinion of the touch screen, Ian. Oh, and I'm sure your Mom, your Dad, and your brother have mixed opinions as well.

Well, Ian agreed with me earlier, so I guess I gotta agree with him now.

The touch screen has been a mixed blessing, to me. Well, not so much the touch screen but the attempts to make it coexist with the standard controls.

There've been some great DS games that used just the standard controls, there have been some great DS games that used just the touch screen, but pretty much every time a game has attempted to mesh the two, it's been... I dunno... awkward.

I want my touchscreen games to be touchscreen games, and I want my traditional games to be traditional games. And god forbid the twain should ever meet.  

[ShyGuy]

Animal Crossing.  merging of touch and traditional like peanut butter and chocolate. Delicious

[Galford]

My biggest complaint about the Wii launch is no Metroid Prime 3.  
That game will decide if I buy the Wii.  
Now that it's been pushed back, I'll wait till it comes out.

I also REFUSE to spend money on the Wii version of Zelda.
TP will be my last GC game.

PS - Baiten Kaitos Origins is in stores tomorrow.  

[jasonditz]

I have to admit, I never did get the DS version of animal crossing. I was thinking more of Super Princess Peach or Tony Hawk. Going along just fine and all of a sudden you have to pull the stylus out to do some trick that could've easily been mapped to a button combo. In Super Princess Peach it was particularly galling because there were moves that required you to steer with the D-pad, press buttons, and touch the screen all at the same time.

It's not that it's impossible to do, it's just very uncomfortable, and really unneccesary.

[Ian Sane]

"I was thinking more of Super Princess Peach or Tony Hawk. Going along just fine and all of a sudden you have to pull the stylus out to do some trick that could've easily been mapped to a button combo."

One of the most annoying is New Super Mario Bros.  Damn near flawless game but if I want that stored power-up to fall down I have to whip out the stylus and tap it.  Why?  What possible reason is there for it to be designed that way when the game otherwise doesn't use the stylus at all?  It's just forced usage to try to sell a concept as being useful in situations where it isn't.

[ShyGuy]

I just used my thumb for the items in NSMB. Wiped the screen off later.

[willie1234]

"If you don't care about any of Rayman, Excite Truck, Super Monkey Ball, Trauma Center, Red Steel, Tony Hawk, or Metal Slug Anthology, you have no soul! "

count me in as having no soul .  the rational thing with any console or electronic equipment, is to wait a bit until the hype and price dies down a bit and then get in.  the question for me was, will the hype of the Wii be so irresistable that I won't do the rational thing and wait?  The answer was no.  Price + game availability meant the launch still looked good for Nintendo, but for me I could hold off.

I've started to play Viewtiful Joe again as Captain Blue just go get a few more hours out of the cube

[KnowsNothing]

I want ALL of those titles but I can only afford one :CRY:

Except Tony Hawk.  Especially Excite Truck.

[jasonditz]

I used my knuckles on NSMB because it doesn't leave a print... in that game at least the powerups were something you could stop and do... not something you needed to do on the fly. But I don't see any reason you shouldn't be able to press pause and then select the powerup without the touchscreen... it felt like they added it because they felt obligated to use the touchscreen for something

[SixthAngel]

I found that the touch screen helped out Jump Superstars a lot.  Besides the awesome pictures on the bottom of the screen the touch screen allowed you to easily use many, many, many specials and the ability to change characters with ease.

[IceCold]

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I'm in the same boat. I wouldn't buy a Wii at launch even if I won the lottery because to me there's no point. I wouldn't be able to find much to do with it anyway.

Honestly Ian, for someone who has no problems complaining time and time again how Nintendo consoles never get mature games, it really doesn't look like you have a problem dismissing them if they come out. First, you don't even buy or play RE4, the biggest third party exclusive for the Cube this generation, and a mature title at that.. Then take Red Steel, a perfect example of a mature title, a new IP (which gamers supposedly get giddy over), a game in a genre which is greatly improved by the Wii controls AND a launch title. You act like it doesn't even exist.. What's up?

[Kairon]

I think Ian only wants Metroid and that's it. No Resistance: Fall of Man, no Heavenly Sword, no Killer 7 (hey... wait, did you like Killer 7 Ian? We forgot to ask you about it in the other thread).

Very particular. Only mature games made by Nintendo.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Edit: heard you liked the MG:TTS so took out MGS4 from list, replaced it with another Sony game: Heavenly Sword

[IceCold]

I think he liked Metal Gear TTS actually.. But still, how could you ignore the other ones?

[Smoke39]

I usually use my fingernail in games that require both standard controls with occasional touch controls.

[Kairon]

Don't you guys have screen protectors?

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

[Smoke39]

I do!  Do I get a prize now?

[Ian Sane]

"Then take Red Steel, a perfect example of a mature title, a new IP (which gamers supposedly get giddy over), a game in a genre which is greatly improved by the Wii controls AND a launch title. You act like it doesn't even exist.. What's up?"

Red Steel had some big control issues at E3 so I'm waiting for reviews for it.