Author Topic: The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Read 69777 times)

Ian Sane · « **Reply #25 on:** August 31, 2006, 09:14:33 AM »

"Does it still count as a bait and switch when the product that is foisted on you is 5000 times more interesting than the bait?"

That is a matter of opinion. Wind Waker defenders said the same thing.

Strell · « **Reply #26 on:** August 31, 2006, 09:18:40 AM »

Don't feed the troll.

His name is Ian and he hates everything Nintendo does.

He's the kind of guy that finds $20 on the sidewalk and thinks "WTF, WHY CAN'T THIS BE A FIFTY?"

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #27 on:** August 31, 2006, 09:30:15 AM »

Ian isn't a troll. I know his posts sold like a troll and a Nintendo hater but he isn't.

He truly is a Nintendo fan, that fell in love with Nintendo during a time when gaming was vastly different. Times have changed and along with those times Nintendo has changed...and even Ian has changed. Yet, he still remembers the Nintendo he loved, and he hopes Nintendo to be as great as it once was.

He isn't a Sony or Microsoft lover trolling to stirup trouble. He just is highly opinionated and presents his views on the board. It just happens he is our negative poster.

But I say leave him alone, because he brings up real points and perspectives for us to consider.

And these boards would be lifeless without characters like Ian and Bill (whom may be fictional people created by the editors of PGC for our entertainment.)

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #28 on:** August 31, 2006, 09:34:18 AM »

Wouldn't that be something if Ian and myself turned out to be the same person?

JonLeung · « **Reply #29 on:** August 31, 2006, 09:36:48 AM »

Fans can be the harshest critics. After all, they have the most expectations and so are the easiest to be disappointed.

Hence, that's why Zelda fans have so much to say about Twilight Princess, and already have strong opinions about every little thing, despite the fact that most of us haven't even played it yet. (Geez, I was at E3 and didn't even try the demo. Don't ask.)

Strell · « **Reply #30 on:** August 31, 2006, 09:43:34 AM »

Hating a game before it comes out?

You don't get much more troll than that.

Unless you make a lot of brazen and wild speculations about it.

Which, if I'm not mistaken, has been done as well.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #31 on:** August 31, 2006, 09:46:35 AM »

"Wouldn't that be something if Ian and myself turned out to be the same person?"

And neither of us knew it because the person we both are is totally bonko. Hell maybe it's true. If I had a dual personality would I even know it?

JonLeung · « **Reply #32 on:** August 31, 2006, 09:47:31 AM »

Yes, you must know it, unless you have a third personality that logs one of you out then logs in as the other.

Ceric · « **Reply #33 on:** August 31, 2006, 10:07:13 AM »

What if both are paranoid security freaks. Therefore actually logs themselves out and clears the cache and like so the computer doesn't automatically show their name?

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #34 on:** August 31, 2006, 10:15:16 AM »

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Originally posted by: Strell
Don't feed the troll.

His name is Ian and he hates everything Nintendo does.

He's the kind of guy that finds $20 on the sidewalk and thinks "WTF, WHY CAN'T THIS BE A FIFTY?"

Speaking of trolls what happened to Nemo? Haven't seen him around since that one thread was closed!

Kairon · « **Reply #35 on:** August 31, 2006, 10:35:05 AM »

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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
Ian isn't a troll. I know his posts sold like a troll and a Nintendo hater but he isn't.

He truly is a Nintendo fan, that fell in love with Nintendo during a time when gaming was vastly different. Times have changed and along with those times Nintendo has changed...and even Ian has changed. Yet, he still remembers the Nintendo he loved, and he hopes Nintendo to be as great as it once was.

He isn't a Sony or Microsoft lover trolling to stirup trouble. He just is highly opinionated and presents his views on the board. It just happens he is our negative poster.

But I say leave him alone, because he brings up real points and perspectives for us to consider.

And these boards would be lifeless without characters like Ian and Bill (whom may be fictional people created by the editors of PGC for our entertainment.)

Here here!

He doesn't fit my personal definition of a Nintendo Fan, but all of his arguments are well thought out, he is an intelligent person, and he has a right to opinions as passionate as my own.

Now Nemo... HAHAHA j/k. You know we love you!

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Athrun Zala · « **Reply #36 on:** August 31, 2006, 06:20:29 PM »

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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
And these boards would be lifeless without characters like Ian and Bill (whom may be fictional people created by the editors of PGC for our entertainment.)

we are all Ty's dupe accounts!

JonLeung · « **Reply #37 on:** August 31, 2006, 06:26:59 PM »

Who were those two guys that people thought were MY alts? One of them has/had a Zero Suit Samus avatar...

mantidor · « **Reply #38 on:** August 31, 2006, 07:16:30 PM »

what is this? Ian is no more troll than any of you (ok... us). This is nonsense, if you can't take anything negative about Nintendo you need to reflect upon yourself and realize that maybe your fanboyism has gone too far.

and whats with nemo? he does have this awful ideas for metroid but he's no troll, you people have the weirdest standards.

wandering · « **Reply #39 on:** August 31, 2006, 07:19:07 PM »

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Speaking of trolls what happened to Nemo? Haven't seen him around since that one thread was closed!

I saw Nemo on the ban list when I was mod....

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That is a matter of opinion. Wind Waker defenders said the same thing.

That switching to a realistic zelda after promising a cel-shaded one was bait and switch?

My problem with people getting angry over Wind Waker's art style is that they are discoraging Nintendo from trying interesting things artistically. Even if you have problems with it (I thought the color scheme was too aritifical as compared to the other, more earthy, Zeldas) you should be glad Nintendo is trying things as interesting, unique, and beautfiful as Wind Waker. Yes, Nintendo "promised" a realistic Zelda, but they also promised a third-person 3d Metroid, and is anyone angry they haven't delivered that yet?

IceCold · « **Reply #40 on:** August 31, 2006, 07:22:32 PM »

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Originally posted by: JonLeung
Who were those two guys that people thought were MY alts? One of them has/had a Zero Suit Samus avatar...

couchmonkey. And I didn't say that he was your alt, it's just that the two of you are really similar in more ways than one, so I jokingly said that you were both the same person..

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I saw Nemo on the ban list when I was mod....

Huh, I thought Deg was giving him another chance

TrueNerd · « **Reply #41 on:** August 31, 2006, 08:50:58 PM »

Not to be a snitch, but Nemo posted that exact thread (his last thread) at 1up.com and began talking sh*t about PGC and it's users.

Okay, maybe I was being a snitch, but that guy's a DOUCHE.

And to not totally hijack the thread, I am purchasing the Wii version of Twilight Princess. I'm too curious.

Kairon · « **Reply #42 on:** August 31, 2006, 08:57:17 PM »

/sad

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

wandering · « **Reply #43 on:** August 31, 2006, 09:18:37 PM »

link

Looks like I'll have to get a 'free nemo' avatar. (It'd be funny if I was the one who banned him, and then forgot. And by funny, I mean sad.)

Strell · « **Reply #44 on:** August 31, 2006, 09:27:58 PM »

Wow.

You know, I have seen pathetic things in my life.

But complaining on the internets about the internets because you are using the internets?

Wow.

"Oh this is so good it just has to be fattening."

mantidor · « **Reply #45 on:** August 31, 2006, 10:41:38 PM »

ooh now I remember he going nuts about everything new about the rev, yeah I can see why he was banned.

IceCold · « **Reply #46 on:** August 31, 2006, 11:11:11 PM »

He did have some creative ideas, and I even often gave him credit for thinking of a controller concept so close to the actual one. As much as I didn't want to lose him, though, I didn't agree with some of what he said. The REmake graphics thing was pretty funny - that's a classic example of why Nintendo is right about graphics..

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #47 on:** August 31, 2006, 11:14:11 PM »

He thought it was a great idea to have Mario smoke 'shrooms and be a hulking bum... -_-

So yeah, "creative" doesn't mean jack when the idea is absolute garbage...

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #48 on:** September 01, 2006, 06:45:04 AM »

Yeah...he wanted a "mature" Mario that was just insane. Mario as a character is defined, period. Changing him now only hurts him. Look at Loonatics Unleashed for a perfect example. Redefining or making something hip or cool for a new generation destorys the character completely.

He had original ideas...but not good ideas.

Adrock · « **Reply #49 on:** September 01, 2006, 06:58:36 AM »

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That switching to a realistic zelda after promising a cel-shaded one was bait and switch?

My problem with people getting angry over Wind Waker's art style is that they are discoraging Nintendo from trying interesting things artistically. Even if you have problems with it (I thought the color scheme was too aritifical as compared to the other, more earthy, Zeldas) you should be glad Nintendo is trying things as interesting, unique, and beautfiful as Wind Waker. Yes, Nintendo "promised" a realistic Zelda, but they also promised a third-person 3d Metroid, and is anyone angry they haven't delivered that yet?

If I remember correctly, Nintendo never actually promised another cel-shaded Zelda before introducing Twilight Princess. They were pretty careful about how they phrased it. It was something like "There will be another Zelda on Gamecube" or "We are working on the sequel to Wind Waker."

I hated the character designs; I didn't mind cel-shading. It was merely superficial however since Wind Waker was 90% Ocarina of Time gameplay-wise. The changes Nintendo introduced were minimal. Parrying was cool except they were only really used against Darknuts and to beat Ganondorf at the very end of the fight. Sailing was just horseback riding made infinitely more annoying.

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