Author Topic: More news for PS3 (Read 17709 times)

ShyGuy · « **Reply #25 on:** August 20, 2006, 10:13:23 AM »

At this rate, you may be right Stevey.

Sony will go from boasting "units shipped" to "units we plan on making"

Requiem · « **Reply #26 on:** August 20, 2006, 10:39:47 AM »

Sony seems so rushed in the plan of attack. It's all so very sloppy.

I'm talking about everything: from BluRay to the game controller. It all seems poorly defined. They need to delay it until they can launch with some actual force (ie games and systems).

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #27 on:** August 20, 2006, 11:11:53 AM »

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Originally posted by: Requiem
Sony seems so rushed in the plan of attack. It's all so very sloppy.

I'm talking about everything: from BluRay to the game controller. It all seems poorly defined. They need to delay it until they can launch with some actual force (ie games and systems).

Not sure if they have any games in development that would be a system seller besides FF and MGS4. I'm still betting they lose the MGS series as an exclusive, and will only have the FF series as an exclusive. I think they about have to launch around November because it could be even more devastating if they delayed (even if it is all poorly defined) since both Xbox 360 and Wii would be getting stronger footholds in the market.

JonLeung · « **Reply #28 on:** August 20, 2006, 12:21:13 PM »

You know, a lot of people still want a PS3.

For some reason.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #29 on:** August 20, 2006, 01:58:40 PM »

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You know, a lot of people still want a PS3.

For some reason.

Yeah I know, but I feel that want could end up being temporary if Sony doesn't have some more exclusives. The PSP has shown that the Sony brand name will sell systems but only for a short while before sales start dropping.

BigJim · « **Reply #30 on:** August 20, 2006, 02:57:25 PM »

They'll ship something this year, even if it means lower supplies and screwing Eu until the Spring.

Ceric · « **Reply #31 on:** August 20, 2006, 04:19:14 PM »

Though out of the surviving console makers the Sony had the earliest launch last gen/current gen, AKA the most time to prepare for this gen/next gen. So why does it seem like everything is so rushed. They knew the PS2 was going to have a lifetime of about 5 years. They knew about the 360 at least 2 years ago. You think they could have more together right now. Sort of like how even though at the beginning of the GCN life Nintendo honestly beleived they could get 10 years out of the Cube but halfway through figured out they couldn't. So even with that beginning devotion it was obvious they must had had something already in the pipeline. They just went to full steam worked hard on it planning all the details. (Though I don't agree with the rate they are metering information.)

SixthAngel · « **Reply #32 on:** August 20, 2006, 05:26:54 PM »

Everything seems rushed simply because Sony wants to put their own technologies into the PS3. The cell and bluray needed to be finished for the launch and they weren't exactly perfected when they expected them to be.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #33 on:** August 20, 2006, 05:39:18 PM »

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Everything seems rushed simply because Sony wants to put their own technologies into the PS3. The cell and bluray needed to be finished for the launch and they weren't exactly perfected when they expected them to be.

The big question is whether any of that stuff will be perfected when it launches, I have a bad feeling that people are going to get screwed who purchase a PS3 when it comes to functionality.

JonLeung · « **Reply #34 on:** August 20, 2006, 06:22:05 PM »

And if the functionality doesn't match the price they have to pay, people will realize that they can't just expect the PlayStation brand to be as hot as it was.

Invincible Donkey Kong · « **Reply #35 on:** August 20, 2006, 07:35:39 PM »

It's Sony, what did you expect?

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #36 on:** August 20, 2006, 07:37:58 PM »

Did anyone start bets on whether the PS3 power supply is bigger than the 360's? bigger than the 360?

Invincible Donkey Kong · « **Reply #37 on:** August 20, 2006, 07:45:38 PM »

If a 360 power supply can heat up an entire room in minutes, just imagine the amount you'll save on heating this winter with PS3! Unfortunately, you'll have to sell your house to even purchase it.

Requiem · « **Reply #38 on:** August 20, 2006, 08:41:30 PM »

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Everything seems rushed simply because Sony wants to put their own technologies into the PS3. The cell and bluray needed to be finished for the launch and they weren't exactly perfected when they expected them to be.

The big question is whether any of that stuff will be perfected when it launches, I have a bad feeling that people are going to get screwed who purchase a PS3 when it comes to functionality.

That's exactly my point.

It would be suicide to delay the launch, but launching premature hardware isn't any better. The first allows your competitors to gain more marketshare and brand identity, while the other ruins your brand identity.

They have a tough decision to make, but the answer is clear. Delay the launch. Sony fans will hold out this winter season; that's for damn sure. And you don't run the risk of dissapointing your commited fans by launching sh!tty hardware.

Of course, that allows your competitors (mainly Wii) to run rampant, but then again, you already f@#$ed yourself. At least this way you can still have a little dignity left.

couchmonkey · « **Reply #39 on:** August 21, 2006, 05:48:28 AM »

I think it would help both Wii and Microsoft a lot if a delay to next year occurred.

Sony probably should delay if it can't manage a half-decent launch, but I would at least attempt to launch in Japan this Christmas. Japan really seems to swing all towards one system after a while, ties never last for long, and Wii could easily, easily be that console. I think Sony would be wise to try and stop that, and it would leave the company with a little credibility.

Edit: Okay, so they're still saying 2 million this year? Then maybe they can manage Japan and the U.S., there would be shortages, but they'd be typical.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #40 on:** August 21, 2006, 08:07:42 AM »

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I think it would help both Wii and Microsoft a lot if a delay to next year occurred.

Sony probably should delay if it can't manage a half-decent launch, but I would at least attempt to launch in Japan this Christmas. Japan really seems to swing all towards one system after a while, ties never last for long, and Wii could easily, easily be that console. I think Sony would be wise to try and stop that, and it would leave the company with a little credibility.

Edit: Okay, so they're still saying 2 million this year? Then maybe they can manage Japan and the U.S., there would be shortages, but they'd be typical.

Then again that 2 million is a bunch of hot air until there is something concrete in the way of system manufacturing.

Ceric · « **Reply #41 on:** August 21, 2006, 11:33:56 AM »

I'm with Couchmonkey. Sony should stop shooting for a worldwide launch and just focus on Japan this year. That will be the region that will have the most games ready to go, home country, and has a good export facilities so people who couldn't wait could import one. Plus the Japanese tend to be more apt to early adoption. They could use some good press from somewhere before the launch here or Europe.

(Ironically I just can't not want the best for someone it seems.)

IceCold · « **Reply #42 on:** August 21, 2006, 09:44:27 PM »

More news, this time further suggesting that the motion sensing was rushed..

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #43 on:** August 21, 2006, 11:36:48 PM »

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More news, this time further suggesting that the motion sensing was rushed..

::gasp:: How dare you suggest that Sony rushed motion control, we know for a FACT that they spent years on it and Nintendo stole their idea. Sony wanted to save the feature for E3 to surprise everyone! They stole the show showing the great crashing physics of the warhawk plane, so how dare you suggest that motion control was last minute.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #44 on:** August 22, 2006, 04:14:20 AM »

The problem with Sony launching only in Japan is that in Japan its only competition is Nintendo. Two very distinctly different products, that really can coexist. But, Japan has shown an eye for desiring something new to play, as in new ways of playing and new content.

Nintendo is going to do great in Japan, but will have a harder sale in the US.

In the US though Sony is launching with two competitors, one that is already relatively strong in the market, Microsoft, and the other that is bringing innovation and a sparkling new way to play. The problem here is simple, your competition is both cheaper and one looks exactly like what you are offering with more games out and a cheaper price tag. The other is an amazingly cheap system with a new means to play and an outstanding launch lineup.

Truthfully, if Sony launched in one market only, America is bigger market it needs to make a splash in. Because if they launch in say Feb, or March then Sony's led and importance in this market is close to null and void.

SixthAngel · « **Reply #45 on:** August 22, 2006, 05:45:17 AM »

I figure they will launch in Japan and the US screwing Europe (and the Aussies, don't want you guys to feel left out.) Each one will probably have far fewer units then they should but each area is guarenteed to sell out at small numbers. This could start the hype train in hopes of actually getting after Christmas sales and make people more aware of it simply by being around at Christmas, even if it is only 2 units per country.

couchmonkey · « **Reply #46 on:** August 22, 2006, 06:13:26 AM »

I like your analysis Spak-Spang, and my only argument would be that Japan really seems to pick a system and run with it. To the best of my knowledge (which I admit isn't much), NES, Super NES, Game Boy and Playstation all totally dominated Japan, leaving their competitors with table scraps. I know for a fact that this is the case with PS2, and it's even starting to look like the case for DS vs. PSP, which theoretically cater to different markets, just like Wii and PS3.

This leaves me with the feeling that if PS3 is too late in Japan, Nintendo may already be halfway to becoming the undisputed champion.

Having said that, Genesis and Super Nintendo were the only really close race North America ever saw, so maybe it's no better here.

JonLeung · « **Reply #47 on:** August 22, 2006, 06:46:02 AM »

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Having said that, Genesis and Super Nintendo were the only really close race North America ever saw, so maybe it's no better here.

I dunno...the CD-i and 3D0 were both really close - for last place.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #48 on:** August 22, 2006, 08:42:04 AM »

CouchMonkey: Very true. Which is why I stated that Japan is hungry for something new.

I think though that both the PS3 and Nintendo can really co-exist there. Basically neither system will be able to compete against the others games.

Nintendo's games will never be as emersive graphically and cinematic as Sony's. Yet Sony's games will not have the level of interaction, and divesity and creativity that comes with the new controller. Depending on what you desire in gaming those two systems can co-exist.

However, In America we are open to supporting more than one system, except this time the systems are TOO EXPENSIVE to support more than one, (unless the second is the Wii.) So I really find it hard to believe that all three systems will co-exist with realitive good hardware and software sales for all systems.

So the question is which will fall. And the easy answer that the analysists sometimes take is either Nintendo or Sony. But, Nintendo appears to be in better shape with such a unique look at gaming this generation...it will gather new fans, and bring old fans back for the system.

Xbox 360 is a sure bet will do better than the original. It has a great headstart over Sony, and by the time Sony has a good selection of truly great games, Xbox 360 will be hitting backing with its biggest guns available, namely Halo 3.

Sony, does have one card ups its sleeve....Blu-Ray Discs. If the format takes off and becomes the future standard of movies, then Sony's card up its sleeve will be a nice Ace giving Sony a set of Aces. However, if Sony's Blu-Ray loses or it takes years for people to desire a new video format, then the card is a Duece and worth nothing for Sony. In fact, it will help the competition even more, because Sony's finances will be tied up in the Blu-Ray dump.

The only question Nintendo has to answer is will people be willing to engage in a new next generation console, that doesn't graphically look next generation compared to the competition. I think the answer to that will be yes, but we will see in the future.

Donutt007 · « **Reply #49 on:** August 22, 2006, 09:00:04 AM »

Then again, XBox 360 didn't start manufacturing until about a month and a half before it's launch date and it had a perfect launch. hahaha

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