Topic: the world is over the name

[Kairon]

DOH

Seriously, I've got, like, awesome internet skillz except for those darned apostrophes.

The worst is "its" and "it's" but you've also lighted upon the other bane of my responsible english ambitions!

/sob

And I try so hard too!

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

[mantidor]

Its as disgusting as it was day one, but we came into the internet everyday and see it everywhere in gaming sites and forums, so people like us whether we like it or not are already used to it, like a bad smell. But just because the web is accepting of the name doesnt mean people outside are, I still think is more of a marketing hurdle than an advantage. Ive only found two reactions to the name in average people, confusion mostly and some laughter, and not the kind of laughter that is good.

At this point I really don't care though, worst case scenario the rev ends up third again but with plenty of games I might enjoy, and with a real Zelda and  the Metroid game, pretty much like another GC. Nintendo won't go banckrupt inmediatly because thats impossible and I will still have my Zelda and Metroid games in the succesor of this console, thats roughly at least ten years of good gaming quality so its all good, and PC game will be around for a while as well.

Anyway This  is probably the best use of the name Ive ever seen, it fits so perfectly, too bad it doesn't fit anywhere else.

[Smash_Brother]

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Originally posted by: Kairon The worst is "its" and "it's" but you've also lighted upon the other bane of my responsible english ambitions!

I still do it on occasion, then punish myself by putting out a match on my chest (not really).

Seriously, I think it's an honest mistake, but I point it out because, if I remind you now, you'll remember it later and will likely remember it during a time when you're conversing with someone who WOULD care or writing an important document (like a resume or letter of recommendation) or crushing the ambitions of some rabid Sony fanwh*re when he'd take any way out he could, including mocking an innocent mistake in grammar.

As for the topic, I'm glad it worked out for them, though I have to say that it might be this way because all of the industry ridicule might have gone instead to Sony and there was none left over for the Wii.

[animecyberat]

yeah teh name is pretty stupid. they should have goten some idaes from sega becuas all there names are good. Dreamcast, Genesis, Master syestm.

[Spak-Spang]

I will say the new worst name for an electronics device is:

The Cell Phone

CHOCOLATE.

It is absolutely insanely STUPID.

I am actually quite amazed that Nintendo was able to come up with something truly original and that can be made to sound and be cool in future.

CHOCOLATE although taste will never be a cool cell phone name.

[wandering]

I should have my own webcomic.  

[GoldenPhoenix]

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Originally posted by: Mario
...that's exactly my point.

I liked the name from day 1.

Ah that was a booming time for the board, but I think it is pretty much a fact that individuals like me, Mario and others told yah so.

[31 Flavas]

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Originally posted by: Zach

At first when the name was released, I knew I would definately still buy it, but I was a little worried that the name might be bad for nintendo's already tiku tiku tiku!  image.

Honestly, it's great that you care, but Nintendo can take care of itself.

[Smash_Brother]

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Originally posted by: 31 Flavas Honestly, it's great that you care, but Nintendo can take care of itself.

Not to be the devil's advocate, but with the GC, I think they kinda proved that statement false...

They're making up for it with the DS, though.

[SixthAngel]

Wandering's post says it all.

Honestly, "Nintendo" is a strange enough name and yet somehow everyone here loves it.

[Athrun Zala]

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Originally posted by: SixthAngel
Wandering's post says it all.

Honestly, "Nintendo" is a strange enough name and yet somehow everyone here loves it.

heh, but Nintendo is a japanese phrase

IIRC, it was something like "leave luck to Heaven"....or something else, I'm not sure (since everyone seems to translate it differently)

[IceCold]

I'm glad - I've never been more disappointed with PGC than during the period of the name change, including Rick's idiotic editorial. As I said then, I knew what Grey Ninja must have felt when he left this place..

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You know that when anti-Nintendo people pick on the dumbest things (like the GameCube's colour, handle, shape, the Wii's name, etc.) and not on better "reasons" (number of games, third-party support) that they're not being rational at all, so who needs them?

Heh, one of my friends, during a debate, said that the PS2's loading screen was way better than the GameCube's. He gave that as a serious reason of why the PS2 is better. Apart from the fact that he's wrong, I understand where you're coming from..

[nemo_83]

I liked the name Dreamcast.

[JonLeung]

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Originally posted by: Athrun Zala

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Originally posted by: SixthAngel
Wandering's post says it all.

Honestly, "Nintendo" is a strange enough name and yet somehow everyone here loves it.

heh, but Nintendo is a japanese phrase

IIRC, it was something like "leave luck to Heaven"....or something else, I'm not sure (since everyone seems to translate it differently)

I've also heard it translated as "leave luck to Heaven" as well, but is it a direct translation?  As if, if someone Japanese were to tell me to leave luck to Heaven he would say to me, "Jon, Nintendo."  (Heck, if Nintendo is actually a verb, then, I'd Nintendo any day!)

I've always wondered if phrases like that really are literally like they say, or if the Japanese (and other languages) have ways of meaning something without saying it directly, like how some English-speaking people say "ASAP" as if it were a word or spell out "FYI" instead of saying the individual words.

Like to us, playing Street Fighter has Ryu going around shouting "Hadoken" (or "Hadou-ken") as he throws his fireball...it's Japanese, and to most people, sounds exotic, and therefore is mysterious, magical and/or powerful.  But to a Japanese person, isn't he just going around shouting "Wave Motion Strike"?  How uninteresting would it be if you threw a fireball and said that, or even something like "Fireball!"?  (It's like in Psychonauts when the guy in Lungfishopolis, meant to be a Japanese giant-monster battle parody, shouts "Hard-to-avoid-AREA-ATTACK!" and "Overly-intricate-COMBINATION!")

Okay, anyway, back on topic...Nintendo means "leave luck to Heaven".  But I thought "Wii" had no meaning, and might actually be hard to pronounce in Japanese itself.  I could be wrong.  Wouldn't it be strange if Nintendo of Japan really did decide on a name that they couldn't pronounce?  How would they come to that conclusion?

[couchmonkey]

Doesn't Dhalsim literally shout "fireball"?  It's not so weird. (Though the whole thing that Japanese animation and video games have about naming attacks and weapons is pretty quirky).

[JonLeung]

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Originally posted by: couchmonkey
Doesn't Dhalsim literally shout "fireball"?  It's not so weird. (Though the whole thing that Japanese animation and video games have about naming attacks and weapons is pretty quirky).

I guess this could derail the topic, but Dhalsim says "Yoga Fire" and "Yoga Flame" in Street Fighter II (and I think in a later game he has a move called "Yoga Inferno" or something to that effect).  There's also Yoga Teleport.  Somehow I doubt pyrotechnics or teleportation are involved in yoga.  Yoga involves stretching, I think, but I'm sure Dhalsim's Mr. Fantastic-like stretching is an exaggeration and Dhalsim himself is overall a gross misunderstanding of Indian culture, I'd wager.

Next thing you know, you'll see "Pilates Lightning!" or "Pilates Shock!"  And when we're done with taking fitness out of context we can go onto diets and have "Atkins Strike!"

Those Japanese and their calling out of their own attacks.  Heh.

But back to Wii.  I do recall it being similar to a Japanese term for "good" or something.  Again, that's just hearsay, and I'm sure the world sees it as Nintendo says it is...it means either "we" or nothing at all.  

[Smoke39]

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Originally posted by: JonLeung
But back to Wii.  I do recall it being similar to a Japanese term for "good" or something.  Again, that's just hearsay, and I'm sure the world sees it as Nintendo says it is...it means either "we" or nothing at all.

If by "the world" you mean "English speakers."  Wii sounds like "how" in German, for example.

[JonLeung]

On that note, would Germans pronounce it "Wii" or more like "Vii"?

[Smoke39]

Yeah, "w" in German is pronounced like an English "v."

[GoldenPhoenix]

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Originally posted by: nemo_83
I liked the name Dreamcast.

I did too, I thought the name was one of the best console names ever. Guess that is proof that the name of a system doesn't necessarily help it out much!

[Ceric]

I would also like to note that Japan and I think China as well have a habit of naming people in such a way that if it was translated they would sound like Hippy Names to us in the States.  Like "Flower Blossom" and the like.  Why in the States and I think most other countries who have some of the same language background we tend make it a point to make names not be actual words or a series of words.  Even then they get different emphasis in speech.

[The Omen]

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..that's exactly my point.

I liked the name from day 1.

Wow.  You're smart.  You know, being a blind as bat loyalist to Nintendo means at some point you'll seem like you were ahead of the curve.  Shall we troll through all of your posts for ridiculous comments on everything Nintendo related to mix and match where you were horribly incorrect?  Because I can assure you there are many examples.  Bottom line?  Who cares that people reacted as they did?  

By the way, I still loathe the name.  But I also said immediately after the name change that I was still going to buy it on launch day.  I could see into the future!  Yay!

[mantidor]

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Originally posted by: Ceric
I would also like to note that Japan and I think China as well have a habit of naming people in such a way that if it was translated they would sound like Hippy Names to us in the States.  Like "Flower Blossom" and the like.  Why in the States and I think most other countries who have some of the same language background we tend make it a point to make names not be actual words or a series of words.  Even then they get different emphasis in speech.

heh, funny, I used to believe the same but about my own language, spanish, compared to english. In english there are names and last names like Shoemaker, House, Daisy, our very own content editor Blood-worth, etc, etc, and I thought that you people just had crazy ideas for naming children, then I realized we are the same, "Rosa", "Casas", "Esperanza", "Zapatero" etc, all "real" words, but also all names used quite frequently actually. It appears the only names who are not "real" words are very old names (daniel, simon, John, etc) or foreign ones (I cant come up with any examples right now ), but if you trace them to their origin, they are very likely to be a "real" word in that ancient/foreign language.

[Mario]

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Originally posted by: The Omen

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..that's exactly my point.

I liked the name from day 1.

Wow.  You're smart.  You know, being a blind as bat loyalist to Nintendo means at some point you'll seem like you were ahead of the curve.  Shall we troll through all of your posts for ridiculous comments on everything Nintendo related to mix and match where you were horribly incorrect?  Because I can assure you there are many examples.  Bottom line?  Who cares that people reacted as they did?  

By the way, I still loathe the name.  But I also said immediately after the name change that I was still going to buy it on launch day.  I could see into the future!  Yay!

If you want to derail this discussion into a personal affair, go ahead and find some. You probably wont, because I can't recall any, but if you do i'd like to see it and reflect. But this discussion isn't about that, it's about the name that I think will go down in history as one of the best decisions Nintendo has ever made. Also, if I was a blind as a bat loyalist i'd be looking forward to TP and MP3.  

[Bill Aurion]

I remember when Mario said that Mother 3 would never come out and then the next day the release date was revealed...He again did the same thing for FFIII!

(Laugho, gotta love being a fan of certain products...Perfect way to be classified a Grade-A "blind as a bat" fanboy!)