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Offline ThePerm

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the world is over the name
« on: August 14, 2006, 01:24:09 AM »
everyone got over it...i need to change my avatar
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RE: the world is over the name
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2006, 02:50:02 AM »
I told you so
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I don't think the Wii has a chance in hell of succeeding in North America so there's no point in buying it. By Christmas 2007 I'll be able to pick it up cheap in a bargain bin. No point buying a console I know has no future. I don't care about a name but I think a lot of people will. So why waste my money on a console that I think is going to bomb?

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This name is ridiculous. What the fekk do they expect me to do, walk into EB and say "Can I put money on a wii?"

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And they just cut the sales by half before they got to the gate. This name is terrible. Wii (Wee) is not what you want associated with you console. I don't know whether to start complaining now or what.


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They love the Rev over there. But they HATE the name Wii. Everyone does. You look at any game related forum online, even Nintendo.com, and there is universal hatred.

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Wee means small. Wee can be slang for penis or pee. Wee sounds incredibly childish and immature. THIS NAME IS F*CKING STUPID SO CHANGE IT YOU IDIOTS!

Who sounds stupid now?

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RE: the world is over the name
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2006, 03:39:03 AM »
You do






NO ONE GIVES A SH!T ABOUT THE NAME.

Case in point: Xbox 360
"Hey....

I'm not a whore, ok? Really.....really, I'm not.

But, if she slips man....if she slips, I slide!"

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Offline Bill Aurion

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« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2006, 03:50:35 AM »
Um, a lot of people DID give a s*** about the name when the name was revealed...
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« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2006, 03:54:30 AM »
But will you not buy it because of the name alone?


no one gives a sh!t about the name...
"Hey....

I'm not a whore, ok? Really.....really, I'm not.

But, if she slips man....if she slips, I slide!"

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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2006, 04:06:42 AM »
But that was Mario's point...People DID say they would not buy it over the name and they claimed others wouldn't either!
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« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2006, 04:21:16 AM »
And my point is, noone is that superficail....

Seriously, no offense to anyone that made those comments above, but if you seriously think that the Wii will take a hit because of its name, you are an idiot.

"Hey....

I'm not a whore, ok? Really.....really, I'm not.

But, if she slips man....if she slips, I slide!"

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« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2006, 04:36:36 AM »
...that's exactly my point.

I liked the name from day 1.

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« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2006, 04:48:06 AM »
Wait...

So are we all in agreement?

For a minute there I thought we were arguing.
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I'm not a whore, ok? Really.....really, I'm not.

But, if she slips man....if she slips, I slide!"

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« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2006, 05:03:25 AM »
I just felt like bringing back a few quotes to show how badly people overreacted. Those probably weren't the worst too...

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« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2006, 05:44:23 AM »
So Mario, have you just been saving those quotes to bring back at just the right time?  I still dont particularly like the name Wii, I thought the revolution was cooler.  But the wii name does have its advantages (same in every language, and it is much more simple, and friendly to the markent nintendo is going for), and I have become accustomed to it.  I think right at first everyone was going so crazy in a big part just because it was a very shocking announcement, and it is a name that you have to get used to.

At first when the name was released, I knew I would definately still buy it, but I was a little worried that the name might be bad for nintendo's already tiku tiku tiku!  image.
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« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2006, 05:45:57 AM »
But some people do care.  Like Old Money(Nobility) and Easy Money(Buy $500 dress made from $2 of material to stay in fashion).  Also the Uber Religious Decency Crowd(Masturbation is a sin.  TV is a sin.  Baloney is a sin.)
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« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2006, 05:47:29 AM »
I thnk Zach summed it up very nicely.
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« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2006, 06:56:12 AM »
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hardcore gaming forumers stopped posting about it...i need to change my avatar


Fixed. My worry, at least, was never that the hardcore community couldn't reconcile themselves to it (though even still, why would you pick such a name with such a negative reaction?) My belief is that the name will turn off the 13-18 crowd, which is still the sweet spot of the gaming market whatever Nintendo's ambitions. Parents wont buy it as a Christmas present for their kids for fear of embarassing them, and the kids won't buy it for themselves for for the same reason. No reasonable person would claim that the name is an insurmountable obstacle, but for a large chunk of the gaming market it is an obstacle. And why would you add obstacles to buying your product?
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RE: the world is over the name
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2006, 07:55:11 AM »
"Wii" still means "yes" in french and is a plural pronoun in English. I still feel awkward saying it and think they could have tried a bit harder to find a name which truly didn't mean anything in any language.

I still think the name is god awful, but no one else seems to care so I see no reason to care. I always knew I was going to buy it no matter what they called it. I'm just glad that most people feel the same way and that 3rd parties are still supporting the system.

It was a gamble for Nintendo to do it but it seems to have worked: they've distanced themselves from their competitors by choosing a name so ridiculous that no one would ever confuse it for a PS3 or 360.

We still have to wait and see to find out how it does in sales, but I can't imagine it doing badly at this point.
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« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2006, 09:43:13 AM »
If I were Mario and if I were mean, not only would I have saved the quotes, but also who said what - then if I ever needed to shoot down that person's credibility, whip out one of their quotes...

I've said it before - the unorthodox name sure got a lot of people's attention - and while there was a lot of negativity at first, E3 soon after changed a lot of people's minds.

Sure, an unorthodox and possibly crude name seems like an unneccesary "hurdle" and people who may have heard the name but don't really know what the controller can do or what kind of games there are for it are probably the only ones that are going to avoid it.  And even then, how long would they?  I mean, honestly, after seeing someone playing on it, who's honestly going to say, "Hey, let me try this thing.  What's it called?  What?  "Wii"?  Are you serious?  I don't want to play with a Wii.  Forget I asked."

Some people can be pretty dumb and shallow, but I don't think there will be enough put off solely by the name enough to not get one.  If they say they won't get a Wii just because of the name, most likely it's another reason - like maybe they're so anti-Nintendo that they don't want to.  You know that when anti-Nintendo people pick on the dumbest things (like the GameCube's colour, handle, shape, the Wii's name, etc.) and not on better "reasons" (number of games, third-party support) that they're not being rational at all, so who needs them?

I'm still waiting for a celebrity to go on Conan or Jay Leno or Letterman and point out that they like to play games and say with a straight face, "I can't wait to get my hands on my Wii.  I'm going to play with my Wii all night long." etc.  And then judging by the host and audience's response, point out that they mean the Nintendo Wii.  That'll get people's attention.

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« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2006, 10:30:45 AM »
I thought it would be more of a problem than it has been.

We talked about in my "Nintendo Virus" thread how people who don't even follow gaming have heard about the Wii. Nintendo has done an excellent job of moving the focus from hardcore gamers to making the console out to be something for everyone and, as much as I was caught off guard by it, it seems the "Wii" name helped to do that.

Now I hope people don't just talk about it and actually BUY the thing...
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« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2006, 10:47:13 AM »
The name was nothing but a publicity stunt.  And it still describes nothing about the system.  It's like they were trying to one up Microsoft on bad titles.
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« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2006, 12:13:52 PM »
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« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2006, 12:43:49 PM »
iPod - Pod-shaped MP3 player which ties in to Apple's "i" line of products.

Walkman - A tape player which you can walk around with.

Red Bull - An energy drink intended to give you the strength and stamina of an angry bull.




Wii - Unless you pronounce it correctly, the subtle suggestion of it meaning "togetherness" is lost on the potential customer.

Nintendo wanted a word which meant absolutely nothing and it seems to have worked for them.
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« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2006, 12:53:10 PM »
Well, Hell.  If you mispronouce most any word the meaning gets lost.  
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« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2006, 01:08:11 PM »
True, but I'm too much of an anglophile to believe that most people won't mispronounce the word "Wii" since it's spelling is nonstandard in any language I know.
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« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2006, 01:23:27 PM »
Wow, SB is so cool because while he maintains that he doesn't like the name personally, he's positive on the effect we've seen so far overall.

Hooray SB!

Let's hope the good news continues and you're fears prove wholly unjustified!

Isn't the English language great? It's so mixed-up and screwed-over and cross-pollinated and generally the most un-standard language in the world that... yippee... it's super-duper-flexible and slang, new phrases, and inventive marketting easily slip into our public lexicon!

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« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2006, 01:29:15 PM »
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« Reply #24 on: August 14, 2006, 01:30:33 PM »
To be honest, even without having heard so many people who know squat about gaming somehow know about the Wii, the real proof is in the immense amount of 3rd party support Nintendo is receiving for the console.

Out of the current 27 games the Wii will allegedly launch with, only 4 of them are made by Nintendo (TP, MP3, Excite Truck and Wii Sports). That is, if Wario Ware slipping is indeed true...

EDIT: ...and just to practice what I preach, it's "your fears", not "you're fears". Sorry, anal-retentivty and all that.
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