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Ceric · « **on:** August 07, 2006, 02:03:25 PM »

IGN Reveals Price Launch Date Etc.

Oh wait theres nothing there. The sources didn't want to go to jail and I've been checking IGN all day this wasn't up until just know and that what it said. My bet is that it never had that information because it couldn't be up long enough for someone to request it down, must have been mere seconds if it was. Methinks this was just a grab for attention since there isn't much to write about. Matt's pretty good at keeping the Wii channel full of something even if it's just editorials or Cubetoons, enjoy Cubetoons. Alas it seems that even he is running out of material. NINTENDO YOU HEAR THAT. I wish they lift all the stupid NDA's on everything it seem so we can get some people with hands on experience or something. Anything. If Nintendo where rain at this moment we be looking at a bad harvest for Winter. blah...

Edit:
Actually they did post one good peice of news Ubisoft confirms that the Prince of Persia Franchise will be coming to Wii someday, just not launch
It's one of the games they have for the Wii in developement that won't make launch so it didn't make the press release.
Though there was an interesting thought in the article. You know how they did not do direct movement to sword movement for Red Steel last time we checked. What about with Prince of Persia or someother 3rd person point of view game. I think it would work much better for this style of game simply because the sword wouldn't move the camera or anything. Plus your far enough away that as long as it's relatively close you be fine. Just a thought.

BigJim · « **Reply #1 on:** August 07, 2006, 02:24:17 PM »

The article was quoted in the IGN forums. In a nutshell:

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A number of big-name publishers are set to release their Wii games in mid-to-late October, which suggests that a system debut could not be that far off. And several insiders have told IGN that Tuesday, November 2 could, in fact, be the big day.

Thing is, not all of our contacts are in agreement on the date. Some have suggested that November 12 could, instead, by Wii's launch date.

So nothing definitive, even for speculation. But it's not saying much for early october in particular.

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Sources suggest that Wii will launch with a $229 price tag and will be available in both black and white.

Edit: Sucky pricing if that includes only the system/controller, IMO. Will there be more in the box?

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The Broadway CPU is allegedly in the 750 CL line, a continuation of the 750 GX series. IBM may be working on a revised Broadway chip with a lower clock speed for a future Nintendo handheld -- presumably one that plays GameCube discs.

Is there really a market for a GC Portable? Big-time grain of salt... Maybe it just happens to be backward compatible. Meh, whatever. The DS is still printing money. Why mess with a good thing.

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Nintendo has allegedly bumped production of Wii hardware to 5.5 million units by the end of the year, a significant upgrade to previous numbers. The jump is purportedly based on the positive reaction to Wii from press and industry analysts at E3 2006.

Extremely nice production # if true. Their earlier projection was 6 million sold by March.

MarioAllStar · « **Reply #2 on:** August 07, 2006, 02:31:10 PM »

The article just became availible again. I have archived it just in case it is taken down again.

Edit: This is really strange. It goes from being availible to unavailible every 5 seconds.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #3 on:** August 07, 2006, 02:31:40 PM »

$229 is "sucky"? And a price point tells you nothing about what is included...

BigJim · « **Reply #4 on:** August 07, 2006, 02:34:48 PM »

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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
$229 is "sucky"? And a price point tells you nothing about what is included...

True. if it's a core system and controller, then that price is a bit disappointing IMO. But if there really are extras in there, then that's another story.

Ceric · « **Reply #5 on:** August 07, 2006, 02:35:45 PM »

It is. That number is just messy. I be willing to pay the extra 20 buck for a prettier number.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #6 on:** August 07, 2006, 03:46:32 PM »

Here is my thoughts on the story.

First, November is the realistic release date. I am sure the developers that have October are scheduling it as such to ensure their game is ready for launch. "Hey guys, just in case Nintendo does something crazy, this game must be ready for a mid-October launch."

Anywhere between November 2-12 is great news. Earlier than the PS3, and those numbers mean that when Wii sells out it will have a much greater initial pentration than the PS3. WHOOHOO!!!

With those release dates, I actually hope for the 12th so that I have some time after I pay rent to ready myself for launch. Launch won't be too expensive for me either...seeing as my Birthday is the 18th of November, so I can ask for a game or two for my birthday. WHOOHOO!!!

Finally, about the price. $229 is a fantastic price. We should have known that Nintendo wouldn't create a $199 system. That was just pie in the sky dreams for all of us. In fact, most reasonable people and new sources and retailers are saying it will launch for $250. That is 20 dollars less. At this price I expect the minimum to be included. WiiPointer, Analog attachment, either Wii Sports or the classic Controller.

Also, I don't believe Microsoft is thinking about dropping the Xbox 360 CORE to $250. That is pointless. I actually see Microsoft dropping the core system idea, and just releasing the updated packaged for a much cheaper price. I bet it will be between $300-$350 dollars...leaning closer to $300 than $350.

If this is Nintendo's strategy for Wii launch. I say BRAVO. We couldn't ask for anything better.

I editted my Xbox 360 comment because I forgot to say Core system...at first.

BlkPaladin · « **Reply #7 on:** August 07, 2006, 04:29:32 PM »

$223 could be the "introduction" market price for the first market. Because Nintelndo does that to recap the R&D quickly. For example in Japan the Gamecube was about $225 at launch when it released in the US it was $200. The DS was $150 when it released first in the US and was released in Japan at around $130.00. So this could mean that the US is getting the console first and that it is a $200 console. (It probally will not go down to $200 until after New Years.)

As for the Xbox 360 I think that Microsoft already said that it wasn't lower the price of its console this year.

Ceric · « **Reply #8 on:** August 07, 2006, 04:34:41 PM »

Not to surprising. Everyone is predicting that the Wii and PS3 will become scarce quick. So MS has no good reason to do it before the end of the year. Now when the replenishing shipments arrive for the Wii and PS3 and there is no longer an "artificial" demand then Wam! price cut.

Pale · « **Reply #9 on:** August 07, 2006, 06:38:33 PM »

First of all, November 2nd is totally a thursday... ><

Second of all, I still say November 19th is in fact the big day.

Dirk Temporo · « **Reply #10 on:** August 07, 2006, 06:42:39 PM »

PROTIP: Wii will never be $230 because that price isn't marketable in the least. $225 is a possibility, but $230 would just throw off tons of people.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #11 on:** August 07, 2006, 07:12:09 PM »

Pale: You best be wrong...because My birthday is the 17th...and I need the Wii before then, for my super Wii-tastic Birthday Blowout.

Dirk: I don't think the number matters as much anymore, since we are moving closer to a cashless society. But it is an interesting point you bring up.

Finally,

BlkPaladin: I bet Nintendo had a targeted cost to manufactor the system. Perhaps the goal was to make a system that cost between $175-$200 to produce.

With a price of $229, the price could be as high as $200 to produce and Nintendo still make a sizable profit per unit.

Or the initial price point was missed, and perhaps the price is closer to $250 per unit...and Nintendo is giving us a slightly discounted price, which they will make up in virtual console sales, game sales, and controller sales (Both classic and WiiPointer.)

Arbok · « **Reply #12 on:** August 07, 2006, 07:22:03 PM »

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Dirk: I don't think the number matters as much anymore, since we are moving closer to a cashless society. But it is an interesting point you bring up.

Come again?

No, Dirk is right, $225 is a much better number to market then the odd $230 figure, much in the same vein that $199.99 seems much more resonable than $200: perception.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #13 on:** August 07, 2006, 07:48:49 PM »

Arbok: True $225 and $250 are both easier numbers.

I am just saying that $229 isn't so odd that it would throw people off.

Or rather turn people off from the price.

And that price point does make it seem that they are trying to either hit a formulated Profit margin for each sale, or the the cost of the to produce the system messed up their original pricing schemes. Probably the forumulated Profit Margin.

Hell, the DS is selling well and its kinda priced odd right now.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #14 on:** August 07, 2006, 08:57:58 PM »

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Originally posted by: Ceric
Edit:
Actually they did post one good peice of news Ubisoft confirms that the Prince of Persia Franchise will be coming to Wii someday, just not launch
It's one of the games they have for the Wii in developement that won't make launch so it didn't make the press release.

Actually it did make the press release, just not the U.S. press release. I posted a snippet from the French press release in a different thread, The ubisoft one in here in the Wii section.

expect this post to be edited with links to this several days old news.

edit: link I talked about above

read the French PR quote.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #15 on:** August 07, 2006, 09:58:21 PM »

DS sells for $130, Wii could sell for $230.

Makes sense.

IceCold · « **Reply #16 on:** August 07, 2006, 10:08:56 PM »

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and will be available in both black and white.

If true, that's good.. I was wary of their white push since TGS, and I didn't know if they would release a black one.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #17 on:** August 07, 2006, 10:12:42 PM »

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Originally posted by: IceCold
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and will be available in both black and white.
If true, that's good.. I was wary of their white push since TGS, and I didn't know if they would release a black one.

Looks like I'll be buy my Wii before my DS Lite.....

thanks alot Nintendo, all I'm waiting for is a BLACK version of either and both and I still have heard no mention of a BLACK DSL in the U.S.

BigJim · « **Reply #18 on:** August 08, 2006, 03:54:28 AM »

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Nintendo has allegedly bumped production of Wii hardware to 5.5 million units by the end of the year, a significant upgrade to previous numbers.

MS has sold 5 million 360's to date. Hilarity would ensue if Nintendo sells that many just over the launch holiday.

MS will still be ahead, but maybe not for so long.

ShyGuy · « **Reply #19 on:** August 08, 2006, 04:03:23 AM »

$229 Would be awesome if it came with:

Console
2 wiimotes with nunchuka
1 classic controller
Wii Sports
Super Mario Bros and DuckHunt from VC.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #20 on:** August 08, 2006, 04:37:58 AM »

Shyguy: That would be a steal if it came with all that.

People were expecting the bare bones system to be $199.99 with perhaps two controllers, or just Wii Sports...but not both.

To say a $30.00 dollar increase gets you Wii Sports, 2 controllers and 1 classic Controller is pretty much out there.

I know we are all thinking lower technology it needs to reflect in the price, but really the Wii is different than current generation, don't let that lie of it being just and Xbox tempt you to believe the system should be dirty cheap.

The more I think of it. The less I believe Wii Sports will be packed in. Wii Sports is one of Nintendo's few nongamer releases for launch. It will be the game that is picked up by everyone that doesn't want Zelda and Metroid...and will sell crazy. It had huge hype and great buzz from E3.

The most I would hope for is that second controller, and if we get that then Nintendo is being generous.

PS: I actually expect Nintendo to give Virtual Console games away with the purchase of the classic controllers instead of the system...makes more sense, and makes the classic controller more of a bargin.

ShyGuy · « **Reply #21 on:** August 08, 2006, 07:22:35 AM »

I dont really need to have all those things bundled, but here is my reasoning.

2 wiimote with nunchuka: Developers wouldn't be hesitant to develop 2 wiimote games, like the drum demo.

1 classic controller: So Developers can put a classic controller option into some games as an alternative (like metal slug or mortal kombat) plus, if you download a snes game for the VC, you don't have to run out and buy another controller.

WiiSports: a game packed right in is a great idea, espcially for the non-gamers. Plus I want to have this game for when friends are over, but I don't know if I would spend $50 for it

Ceric · « **Reply #22 on:** August 08, 2006, 08:00:38 AM »

Interesting reading material on what we've discussed on a similar topic

Same Here

I'll leave you guys with those and I'm off to take a final that has the fate of my graduation hanging in the balance.

Arbok · « **Reply #23 on:** August 08, 2006, 08:02:19 AM »

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Originally posted by: ShyGuy
$229 Would be awesome if it came with:

Console
2 wiimotes with nunchuka
1 classic controller
Wii Sports
Super Mario Bros and DuckHunt from VC.

That sounds like a real deal, although I doubt Wii Sports would be a pack-in considering the interest, and how much money Nintendo might make if it were sold separately. I wouldn't doubt, though, that after the initial rush that it might make a perfect pack-in.

Kairon · « **Reply #24 on:** August 08, 2006, 08:36:46 AM »

God, if Wii Sports AND a second controller are packed in, I'd be ecstatic.

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