Author Topic: Sony getting hit Hard lately (Read 865426 times)

KDR_11k · « **Reply #1275 on:** January 11, 2007, 09:14:23 AM »

Now when I start talking say Halo do you have to wonder if I mean the PC or the XBox version? No you automatically assume the XBox version.

But that's mostly because PC gamers don't bother with Halo. Both of the examples you listed for "definitive platform" are still alive and widely played on one platform while being practically dead on the other.

segagamer12 · « **Reply #1276 on:** January 11, 2007, 03:18:47 PM »

Everyone I know who played RE4 hadit one GC, and most of them bought a GC for RE4 not even knowing it was coming to Ps2 until latter on.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #1277 on:** January 14, 2007, 12:10:14 AM »

I'm not 100% sure how real this inteview is, as I don't have a copy of the new Game Informer, but Gabe Newell, Managing Director of Valve Software has some pretty nice words to say about Sony and their PS3.

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Gameinformer:What about the PS3?

Gabe Newell: The PS3 is a total disaster on so many levels, I think It's really clear that Sony lost track of what customers and what developers wanted. I'd say, even at this late date, they should just cancel it and do a "do over". Just say, "This was a horrible disaster and we're sorry and we're going to stop selling this and stop trying to convince people to develop for it". The happy story is the Wii. I'm betting that by Christmas of next year, the Wii has a larger installed base than the 360. Other people think I'm crazy. I really like everything that Nintendo is doing.

Remember that HL2

is still coming to PS3, and the direct views and opinions of Newell don't necessarily reflect those of Valve as a whole. I also hope that he is crazy enough to put some support behing the horse he's betting on

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denjet78 · « **Reply #1278 on:** January 14, 2007, 04:14:01 AM »

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Remember that HL2 is still coming to PS3, and the direct views and opinions of Newell don't necessarily reflect those of Valve as a whole. I also hope that he is crazy enough to put some support behing the horse he's betting on .

I remember quite a few developers chatting up the GC and then never actually making any games for it so I wouldn't put too much weight behind these types of statements. Nintendo will most likely have to single handedly conquer the market on their own before developers will take them seriously again, and then they'll whine about how Nintendo has too much power and STILL only make games for Sony and MS. They're in a no win situation honestly.

Jin-X · « **Reply #1279 on:** January 14, 2007, 06:34:03 AM »

Well that's the publisher (EA) that's porting Half-Life to the 360 and PS3, not Valve.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #1280 on:** January 14, 2007, 07:06:57 AM »

Matt-IGN was hinting that a major FPS franchise was coming to Wii, we can all only hope that its Valve building HL/HL2<w/ ep1 & 2>/CS/(TF/TF2?)/Portal all from the ground up for Wii.

IceCold · « **Reply #1281 on:** January 14, 2007, 03:42:47 PM »

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I remember quite a few developers chatting up the GC and then never actually making any games for it so I wouldn't put too much weight behind these types of statements. Nintendo will most likely have to single handedly conquer the market on their own before developers will take them seriously again, and then they'll whine about how Nintendo has too much power and STILL only make games for Sony and MS. They're in a no win situation honestly.

Yeah, just look at the DS.. some developers are still not on board..

segagamer12 · « **Reply #1282 on:** January 15, 2007, 04:27:55 AM »

screw Halflife I want DOOM 3 and Quake 4, there is NO excuse for them not showing up on GC sicne N64 had EXCLUSIVE versiosn of both series and Wii is TAILOR MADE for these types of games. Get Doom 3 and Quake 4 and Ill shut up forever about FPS on Wii. HL would be cool also and FEAR would just be heaven for me. Cuz if all those games goto Wii I have less of a reason to want a 360 and can save money by just getting Wii games.

denjet78 · « **Reply #1283 on:** January 15, 2007, 06:43:39 AM »

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I remember quite a few developers chatting up the GC and then never actually making any games for it so I wouldn't put too much weight behind these types of statements. Nintendo will most likely have to single handedly conquer the market on their own before developers will take them seriously again, and then they'll whine about how Nintendo has too much power and STILL only make games for Sony and MS. They're in a no win situation honestly.
Yeah, just look at the DS.. some developers are still not on board..

I was exaggerating the situation but it still stands. The DS is just Nintendo's continued domination of the handheld realm. The Wii, on the other hand, is following what most consider to be two failed home consoles, which is going up against the PS3 from Sony who has been the undisputed console champ for two generations by a MASSIVE amount. The DS got a certain amount of support by default. The Wii will not. If sales start to dip too much 3rd parties will shy from the system. Everyone has come into this generation expecting the PS3 to be the dominate console as well, and so they're acting as if it already is. Nintendo is going to have to sell this system hard before 3rd parties are going to muster up much real support.

IceCold · « **Reply #1284 on:** January 15, 2007, 06:50:49 AM »

I was actually being serious there - the DS deserves a lot more 3rd party love than it's getting. Regardless of the fact that it was the successor to the GBA, Nintendo built the DS from the ground up with little help from third parties.

Arbok · « **Reply #1285 on:** January 15, 2007, 07:56:55 AM »

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I was actually being serious there - the DS deserves a lot more 3rd party love than it's getting. Regardless of the fact that it was the successor to the GBA, Nintendo built the DS from the ground up with little help from third parties.

Yep, exactly. I mean, look at Konami and Capcom, both of them are supporting the PSP much more than the DS, despite sales of the latter.

couchmonkey · « **Reply #1286 on:** January 15, 2007, 10:27:44 AM »

On the DS: Yes, Nintendo has done it pretty much all alone. People overestimate how much the Game Boy legacy contributed to that system. The third party support was poor (and still is, somewhat) and many were predicting it would fail in the face of PSP. And it looked like they might be right for the first year - PSP outsold DS in North America for a long time and the race was just barely in DS' favour in Japan up until the end of 2005.

I'm sure the Game Boy's history helped DS out a little bit, but DS is essentially built on first-party games: Brain Age, New Super Mario Bros, Nintendogs and Animal Crossing put any other DS title to shame in terms of sales.

Meanwhile, Sony is admitting what we already suspected: PS3's sales are below expectations and even though they're catching up to demand, they still only expect to sell 4.5 million by March, or 3/4 of their original target - further proof that brand names won't save you from crappy decision making in the video game market.

Hocotate · « **Reply #1287 on:** January 15, 2007, 12:23:27 PM »

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The Wii, on the other hand, is following what most consider to be two failed home consoles, which is going up against the PS3 from Sony who has been the undisputed console champ for two generations by a MASSIVE amount. .... Everyone has come into this generation expecting the PS3 to be the dominate console as well, and so they're acting as if it already is. Nintendo is going to have to sell this system hard before 3rd parties are going to muster up much real support.

reminds me of something....

The Playstation, on the other hand, is following what most consider to be no recognition in home consoles whatsoever, which is going up against the N64 from Nintendo who has been the undisputed console champ for two generations by a MASSIVE amount. .... Everyone has come into this generation expecting the N64 to be the dominate console as well, and so they're acting as if it already is. Sony is going to have to sell this system hard before 3rd parties are going to muster up much real support.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #1288 on:** January 15, 2007, 01:10:35 PM »

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The Wii, on the other hand, is following what most consider to be two failed home consoles, which is going up against the PS3 from Sony who has been the undisputed console champ for two generations by a MASSIVE amount. .... Everyone has come into this generation expecting the PS3 to be the dominate console as well, and so they're acting as if it already is. Nintendo is going to have to sell this system hard before 3rd parties are going to muster up much real support.

reminds me of something....

The Playstation, on the other hand, is following what most consider to be no recognition in home consoles whatsoever, which is going up against the N64 from Nintendo who has been the undisputed console champ for two generations by a MASSIVE amount. .... Everyone has come into this generation expecting the N64 to be the dominate console as well, and so they're acting as if it already is. Sony is going to have to sell this system hard before 3rd parties are going to muster up much real support.

Don't forget that Square had announced the next FF (FFVII) for the N64, but then to everyones surprise, they switched the system* that is was to be released on.

*It could still happen, but I think is just as good if not better that they are already pimping DQ out to all Nintendo systems as we speak.

MysticGohan · « **Reply #1289 on:** January 15, 2007, 01:45:34 PM »

And Wii! Soon my pretties soon! eh, BnM

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #1290 on:** January 16, 2007, 05:19:36 AM »

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The Wii, on the other hand, is following what most consider to be two failed home consoles, which is going up against the PS3 from Sony who has been the undisputed console champ for two generations by a MASSIVE amount. .... Everyone has come into this generation expecting the PS3 to be the dominate console as well, and so they're acting as if it already is. Nintendo is going to have to sell this system hard before 3rd parties are going to muster up much real support.

reminds me of something....

The Playstation, on the other hand, is following what most consider to be no recognition in home consoles whatsoever, which is going up against the N64 from Nintendo who has been the undisputed console champ for two generations by a MASSIVE amount. .... Everyone has come into this generation expecting the N64 to be the dominate console as well, and so they're acting as if it already is. Sony is going to have to sell this system hard before 3rd parties are going to muster up much real support.

To further elaborate on this point. The Nintendo 64 failed because the cartridge medium was more costly to manufacture than the CD format causing many developers to avoid the high costs of working on Nintendo's system.

The same can be true about the PS3. The Blu-Ray format and the PS3 development process in general is much more expensive than working on the Wii or Xbox 360. For this reason, smaller developers may decide that PS3 isn't worth the investment risks...however, the Wii is worth such risks.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #1291 on:** January 16, 2007, 05:41:16 AM »

Did you also hear that the Porn industry is backing HD-DVD now, since Sony said that the Porn Industry cannot produce content on Bluray. The Porn Industry basically responded by saying "Thats fine, Bluray disc are too expensive to produce content on anyway, and HD-DVD is a lot easier to convert to."

Why does Sony do this? Is this retaliation for Betamax? Is Sony trying to make a point "That the Porn Industry does not help decide a winner in the 'Format Wars'."? Why wouldn't Sony want Porn on BRD? They supported them using UMD (well more like forced from what I heard) and UMD still failed. Is this retaliation for UMD? You can't blame Porn for UMD failing, it was just too expensive of a format to only have one type of player for. But anyway, back to the original question, why would Sony do this?

vudu · « **Reply #1292 on:** January 16, 2007, 05:52:17 AM »

Can you try again without the typos? I think you're trying to say Sony said that the porn industry cannot produce content on Blu-ray

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #1293 on:** January 16, 2007, 06:09:02 AM »

LINK VS CANNONDORF

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #1294 on:** January 16, 2007, 06:17:46 AM »

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Can you try again without the typos? I think you're trying to say Sony said that the porn industry cannot produce content on Blu-ray

I can't believe that I let that many typos slip by...

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #1295 on:** January 16, 2007, 07:21:36 AM »

Wow, Sony just killed BR...

Seriously, porn is the entire reason any media format has EVER propagated, VHS, DVD, the internet...

I think Sony is actually TRYING to kill itself.

MaryJane · « **Reply #1296 on:** January 16, 2007, 08:46:17 AM »

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Wow, Sony just killed BR...

Seriously, porn is the entire reason any media format has EVER propagated, VHS, DVD, the internet...

I think Sony is actually TRYING to kill itself.

So you somehow perfected time travel and stole my exact post, (except I wouldnt have used propagated) why not use your knowledge to play the stock market or find a way to defeat Sony once and for all? Or perhaps you already know this is going to happen.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #1297 on:** January 16, 2007, 08:49:43 AM »

Heh, if I could play the stock market and win, I'd be developing games for the Wii already.

My experience in stocks has ended in nothing but failure, sadly.

But it's not like I'm saying anything that isn't plainly evident already. Even most (former) Sony fans read a statement like "no porn on BR" and THEY have no choice but to realize that Sony is indeed crashing and burning.

segagamer12 · « **Reply #1298 on:** January 16, 2007, 05:29:35 PM »

all my friends found out no NBA LIVE on PS3 that was that for them. all but two of my friens have givven up on it completely.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #1299 on:** January 22, 2007, 05:35:28 AM »

Sony tells a guy to F-off and voids his warranty for not using official Sony accessories

Sony Public Relations phailure: marketing execs contradict themselves, shady shipment numbers, and MotorStorm resolution promises

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