Author Topic: Sony getting hit Hard lately (Read 873137 times)

WuTangTurtle · « **Reply #750 on:** October 30, 2006, 06:29:13 PM »

I'm curious how many people still care about the PS3, there has been virtually no good news for Sony and it seems every week Sony does something retarded whether it be killing Lik-Sang or cutting another 20% off the launch shipment for Japan. I think the only good news I've seen is apparently people are camping out to get PS3 pre-orders, so i guess its not the end of the world for Sony.

ThePerm · « **Reply #751 on:** October 30, 2006, 06:47:06 PM »

also Sony is kiddy!

jasonditz · « **Reply #752 on:** October 31, 2006, 04:56:57 AM »

Today's Sony Bash is power consumption. 380 Watts... are they kidding? If this did sell at the same rate the PS2 did, what does this do to the power grid? Will they have to build an extra power plant to accomodate this load? What will that do to the environment?

Playstation 3: Destroyer of Worlds.

capamerica · « **Reply #753 on:** October 31, 2006, 05:18:00 AM »

I remember when the Xbox360 came out and people thought that was a power hog.
The PS3 uses more then double that of the 360.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #754 on:** October 31, 2006, 05:29:50 AM »

Which begs the question how much power does the Wii consume? If it is half the Xbox 360 that would be fantastic.

PS3:
$500.00 for the system
$ 60.00 for a single game
$ 50.00 for a single Extra Controller
$ 50.00 for tax on system/Game/Controller
$ 50.00 for a single months power consumption
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$710.00

"PS3 Yes we are trying to make you broke, but at least we give you Talladega Nights Free."

Ceric · « **Reply #755 on:** October 31, 2006, 05:43:18 AM »

lol. 380 Watts is pretty standard power consumption for a desktop. In fact that might be a little low for a gaming rig.

Ok to break it down. I pulled out my electric bill. Electricity is 8¢ per kilowatt hour. The PS3 is suppose to take 380 Watts per hour. Now we are going to run it full tilt for the whole day. 380 * 24 = 9120 Watts per Day. Now lets time that by the longest billing cycle 32 days. 9120 * 32 = 291,840 Watts per Billing Cycle . Know we are dealing with Kilowatts so we'll divide the number by 1000. 291,840/1000 = 291.84 Kilowatts per Billing Cycle. Now we'll time its by the rate. 291.84 * 8 = 2334.72¢ per Billing Cycle. Now we think in dollars and money is always rounded up so; 2334.72/100 = ~$23.35 per Billing Cycle.

So your actual cost for electricity per billing cycle for your PS3 is ~$23.35. Which is less then the cost for your Broadband Internet Connection you are suppose to have with it.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #756 on:** October 31, 2006, 05:43:24 AM »

380 Watts is what my PC can drain at maximum load (well, I think, no idea how much it really drains). Though I think that was the maximum rating of the PS3 power supply which is usually much greater than the actual drain. And let's not forget thermodynamics: What goes in goes out again. And it goes out in the form of heat.

Ceric · « **Reply #757 on:** October 31, 2006, 06:07:34 AM »

Yep Yep. I did the math above. It's not as bad as you might think. In actuality you probably get a more study power draw from leaving 7 sixty watt lights on. Actually I know for a fact that you get a more study draw then the PS3 will with just turning on 7 60 watts lights. So in conclusion leaving in my case 2 rooms on with standard bulbs in them draw much more power then the PS3, though I replaced all my bulbs with fluorescent for this exact reason so my draw is a lot less.

Arbok · « **Reply #758 on:** October 31, 2006, 06:19:54 AM »

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Originally posted by: ShaolinKilla
I'm curious how many people still care about the PS3, there has been virtually no good news for Sony and it seems every week Sony does something retarded whether it be killing Lik-Sang or cutting another 20% off the launch shipment for Japan. I think the only good news I've seen is apparently people are camping out to get PS3 pre-orders, so i guess its not the end of the world for Sony.

That's because the vast majority of people don't resreach their purchases very well. It might seem like bad news after bad news... but only the more diehards are hearing about it. For most people, Sony is still "video games" and people will line up for it regardless of quality due to the reputation the PS2 has built. After launch though it will be up to the system itself via word of mouth to sustain itself.

Ceric · « **Reply #759 on:** October 31, 2006, 07:56:40 AM »

Bling Bling Yo!

jasonditz · « **Reply #760 on:** October 31, 2006, 08:15:57 AM »

God... I haven't had a desktop that had that sort of power consumption in years... probably Voodoo2 and obscenely overclocked Celeron 300A days.

My present desktop consumes 30-40 watts when in use... 60 if I'm really pushing it.

capamerica · « **Reply #761 on:** October 31, 2006, 09:47:03 AM »

At MAX use my AMD64 Gaming rig (Which I keep pretty uptodate) only uses 240 watts and thats if I was doing something to push it to the limit. My iMac DV (Which I use for most everyday stuff) only uses 80 watts.

So ya the PS3 is using a ton of power. I can't wait to hear how little the Wii uses.

Ceric · « **Reply #762 on:** October 31, 2006, 10:14:24 AM »

*shrug* Things have changed in the pass few years.

Kairon · « **Reply #763 on:** October 31, 2006, 10:25:52 AM »

Isn't it rumored in the Broadway spec leak speculation forum somewhere out there that the Broadway processor needs only 5 watts?

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Chozo Ghost · « **Reply #764 on:** October 31, 2006, 11:04:41 AM »

Hey guys, check this out:

U.S. Justice Dept. Probing Sony Unit

Ceric · « **Reply #765 on:** October 31, 2006, 11:47:10 AM »

Thats definitely not how you want your stock going going into a new generation.

SRAM price fixing. Not to hard to believe. I mean all the Ram makers seem to have partnerships with each other and no one is complaining because the prices are still relatively cheap. Though even more inexpensive SRAM could really open somethings up.

couchmonkey · « **Reply #766 on:** November 01, 2006, 04:59:41 AM »

I wish someone would probe my unit.

Wow, more troubles, eh? Unbelievable. Of course, business is fraught with lawsuits and investigations, this isn't totally out of the ordinary, but Sony sure doesn't need it right now.

Flames_of_chaos · « **Reply #767 on:** November 05, 2006, 04:03:29 PM »

Sony strikes it again with a dumb PS3 videos and a dumb PS3 ad
http://youtube.com/watch?v=a4GrzpPCD9k <-- Commerial or whatever trying to explain why Cell is "teh leet"
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FwDeNkY454c&mode=related&search= <-- Commercial
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vbO6p2Sd9Bc&mode=related&search= <--- " " trying to explain why Blu-ray should own our souls as the new optical disc standard.

JonLeung · « **Reply #768 on:** November 05, 2006, 04:26:01 PM »

The PS3 ads aren't too bad (maybe that's easy when compared to the previous efforts) but with the first and third links that you provided when they explained all the stuff about the Cell processor and Blu-Ray, I was actually underwhelmed by the time they got to the game footage.

And some people at work are still hoping for the PS3 and not a Wii (Nintendo's not on their radar). I think that it might not be until closer to or after this holiday season when word-of-mouth will really be in Nintendo's favour and not for Sony. The price and quantity of the PS3 will guarantee that, no matter what games come out for it.

EDIT: I wanted to add that Rubik's Cube solvers are not very complex at all, so it doesn't require a Cell processor. I get that it's not the point, specifically, but I still wanted to mention it.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #769 on:** November 05, 2006, 04:30:25 PM »

I'm not sure but I think the Cell explanation tried to insult me..... & you too, all of you...

the Rubix cube commercial is just stupid, smarter cell doesn't make me want to play games on a PS3

but I actually liked the Blu-ray commercial, I was always more proBRD than HDDVD mostly for space issues and possible read times and I think this commercial did a good job of explaining why you should be into not just one of the new HD formats but BRD specifically.

edit: PS3 Baby commercial parody
It takes the scary baby commercial and makes it kinda funny.

Flames_of_chaos · « **Reply #770 on:** November 05, 2006, 04:48:30 PM »

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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
I'm not sure but I think the Cell explanation tried to insult me..... & you too, all of you...

the Rubix cube commercial is just stupid, and I don't get it

but I actually liked the Blu-ray commercial, I was always more proBRD than HDDVD mostly for space issues and possible read times and I think this commercial did a good job of explaining why you should be into not just one of the new HD formats but BRD specifically.

For the optical discs you do know they were comparing the capacity of a single layered DVD to a 2x layered HD-DVD and a 2x layered Blu-ray.

Also I found the Cell commercial insulting because any processor is just a chip that technically just does calculations and any computer is just a box that does whatever we want it to do.

King of Twitch · « **Reply #771 on:** November 05, 2006, 04:59:41 PM »

PS3 can navigate the path of a round of ammo? Only 40x faster than PS2 instead of 1000x? Is this confirmed?

IceCold · « **Reply #772 on:** November 05, 2006, 05:03:15 PM »

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I'm not sure but I think the Cell explanation tried to insult me..... & you too, all of you...

If you're "not sure" about that, maybe it's warranted

Seriously, though, normal people will think that's all a bunch of jargon, and it won't really be effective..

Ceric · « **Reply #773 on:** November 05, 2006, 05:40:21 PM »

Smarter: If they can prove to me that those rain storms and Snowscapes were done real time with the PS3 I be impressed. Showed game footage. Wasn't scared and I knew the product. Marnitudes better then there previous efforts. Still not totally hitting the right demographic I don't think.

Rubiks Cube: Fail. So does the PS3 have telekinetic powers is that what there trying to tell me?

Capacity: PS3 floated must have telekinetic abilities. I like this one as well. It put the space different in good terms. I don't know about the speed they gave but this ad actually showed a game as well. Wasn't scared.

In conclusion: If Sony only showed commercials like Capacity and Smarter then I would tell them they had a good compaign. Not great but fairly good. Though now they have to deny all knowledge of the scary ones. If Sony proved to me that the whole thing was rendered in 1080p in real-time with a PS3 then they go from fairly good to impressive.

Arbok · « **Reply #774 on:** November 05, 2006, 05:53:46 PM »

I don't think these ads are really that bad, although I didn't care for the way it tried to belittle the viewer like he didn't know anything. Also, like others, by the time the actual in game footage came up I was very unimpressed given the previous examples that led up to it.

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