Author Topic: Sony getting hit Hard lately (Read 873302 times)

KnowsNothing · « **Reply #675 on:** October 23, 2006, 03:58:57 PM »

As far as I know, here's how the production of the PS3 went:

1) Ken Kurtagi demands CELL.
2)Sony techs make CELL.
3)Ken Kurtagi is not satisfied and demands they start completely from scratch, but within the same time constaints.
4)Sony techs create new CELL.

Now, from what I can tell, they completed the final CELL chip about a four days ago. They start production tomorrow, and they'll start thinking about online structure in about a week or so.

Kairon · « **Reply #676 on:** October 23, 2006, 04:58:13 PM »

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Originally posted by: VGrevolution
it is just that Nintendo has always been pretty smart when it comes to finalizing hardware!

I think the GC and N64 launches werwe horribly under-supplied.

But it's exactly the unambitious hardware that lets them take a more agressive production schedule. Heck, MS is STILL trying to figure out how to manufacture their stuff efficiently a year after their X360 launch. They're losing so much money that they're trying to rework the inner chips of the X360 to make it cheaper for them to make it, not make it cheaper for consumers to buy. And that's with a much simpler console than Sony has...

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #677 on:** October 23, 2006, 08:05:46 PM »

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Originally posted by: Kairon
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Originally posted by: VGrevolution
it is just that Nintendo has always been pretty smart when it comes to finalizing hardware!

I think the GC and N64 launches werwe horribly under-supplied.

But it's exactly the unambitious hardware that lets them take a more agressive production schedule. Heck, MS is STILL trying to figure out how to manufacture their stuff efficiently a year after their X360 launch. They're losing so much money that they're trying to rework the inner chips of the X360 to make it cheaper for them to make it, not make it cheaper for consumers to buy. And that's with a much simpler console than Sony has...

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

I thought GC had a good supply? I know N64 had troubles but I'm unsure about GC having similar troubles. Either way I am fairly certain that NIntendo has always tried to finalize hardware way ahead of time, it is just with WIi they have not ran into many if any production problems. Regardless of what people say the Wii hardware is still complex, but in different ways from Xbox 360 and PS3, the condensed size and limited power consumption is one of those complexities.

Ceric · « **Reply #678 on:** October 23, 2006, 09:00:14 PM »

Have you guys seen the Cube Motherboard and then a picture of a PS2(Slimline version which is actually suppose to be cleaner then the bigger) and the XBox all relatively close. The Cube Mobo is a piece of art in comparison. Forget about that it's a piece of art in itself.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #679 on:** October 23, 2006, 11:05:13 PM »

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Originally posted by: Ceric
Have you guys seen the Cube Motherboard and then a picture of a PS2(Slimline version which is actually suppose to be cleaner then the bigger) and the XBox all relatively close. The Cube Mobo is a piece of art in comparison. Forget about that it's a piece of art in itself.

I'll have to check that out, I know the GC was definately a graphical marvel, it is too bad that it appears it wasn't even utilized to its fullest potential even with RE4. Then again that gives me alot of hope for the Wii which is even more powerful!

Louieturkey · « **Reply #680 on:** October 24, 2006, 07:15:38 AM »

This just in, Sony Europe shuts down Lik-Sang.com. Check the front page for more info.
Now where do I get my import stuff?

couchmonkey · « **Reply #681 on:** October 24, 2006, 07:36:54 AM »

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Originally posted by: VGrevolution
it is just that Nintendo has always been pretty smart when it comes to finalizing hardware!

I think the GC and N64 launches were horribly under-supplied.

I don't really know about N64, I wasn't paying that much attention back then... GameCube, though, it was in decent supply around here. It was never sold out for more than a week, and by December it was never sold out at all. And according to Gamespot, GameCube sold less than 300,000/450,000 in Japan's launch week, so it seems like supplies were fine over there.

Smoke39 · « **Reply #682 on:** October 24, 2006, 11:50:24 AM »

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Originally posted by: Louieturkey
This just in, Sony Europe shuts down Lik-Sang.com. Check the front page for more info.
Now where do I get my import stuff?

The few times I've imported stuff I ordered from play-asia.com. They had the bit generation games cheaper, and lik-sang didn't even have the two Goemon games I imported.

JonLeung · « **Reply #683 on:** October 24, 2006, 12:23:27 PM »

Can someone compile a list of all the stupid things Sony said and other flub-ups and when they were?

I'm sure Wikipedia wouldn't like a list of what seems like Sony bashing.

But if it's the truth, I think a compiled list with a timeline and links to relevant sources would go a long way in convincing people not to support the stupidity that is now synonymous with Sony.

Kind of like:

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May 9, 2006 - Sony's embarrassing E3 press conference (references to real-time weapon change, "actual" Japanese history with giant enemy crabs, the claim of motion sensing as an incredible innovation of their own, "non-gimmick" uses of the PSP as a rear view mirror, crazy price announcements, etc.)

XXX XX, 2006 - Technical/Production Problem X (chip yields?)

XXX XX, 2006 - Sony claims they didn't steal the idea of motion control from Nintendo, instead claims the reverse

XXX XX, 2006 - Sony delays European launch, reduces quantity estimates for rest of world

XXX XX, 2006 - Technical/Production Problem Y (Blu-Ray LED problems?)

XXX XX, 2005 - Sony rep says something stupid ("We don't care"/"The PS3 will replace your computer"/etc.)

XXX XX, 2006 - Developers drop exclusivity for game Z

Oct. XX, 2006 - Sony makes erroneous "fact sheet"

Oct. 24, 2006 - Sony causes Lik-Sang to close down

Etc.
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I think it would be a cool list, if someone had the time to compile it all. Like a "100 reasons Sony is ****ing up the PS3". It'd certainly be hard for any person to easily resist it, with or without the ridiculous price.

I'd print it off and spread it. Fanboy propoganda? Maybe. But it'd all be true. And Sony's bringing it on themselves anyway.

And next to a list of the ways Nintendo is doing well with the Wii...well, Sony would probably try to take me down like they did Lik-Sang! o_0 But it'd be fun. Someone go make the list. (Don't look at me, I'm lazy. >_>)

Ceric · « **Reply #684 on:** October 24, 2006, 12:30:59 PM »

"Theres always a resistance"-Green Lantern, JL

MaryJane · « **Reply #685 on:** October 24, 2006, 02:02:33 PM »

anyone see those pics at IGN of the PS3 unwrapping?

my favorite pic is the one where the guy is wiping it down and you notice that it's almost as long as the guy's forearm, and it's wider than it is long.

why didn't they just make a desktop pc that can play their games? I might actually considering buying it earlier if it was, it's pretty close to the same price as one.

Arbok · « **Reply #686 on:** October 24, 2006, 02:44:10 PM »

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Originally posted by: MaryJane
anyone see those pics at IGN of the PS3 unwrapping?

my favorite pic is the one where the guy is wiping it down and you notice that it's almost as long as the guy's forearm, and it's wider than it is long.

Links sometimes help:

http://media.ps3.ign.com/articles/741/741368/img_4017717.html

SixthAngel · « **Reply #687 on:** October 24, 2006, 05:12:25 PM »

It is officially gigantic. I am surprised Sony made such an ugly console myself. They seem to be an incredibly style focused company. The mall in my area has a Sony store and it is called Sony Style. They are obviously pushing the style of their electronics over the actual quality. Maybe it is the Sony "perception" (or maybe money) that pushes magazines and sites to use the word sexy at least twelve times everytime they talk about a sony gaming product. I don't know how people can rave about how the ps3 looks when it looks like a giant, glossy vcr from years past.

MaryJane · « **Reply #688 on:** October 24, 2006, 05:33:48 PM »

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Originally posted by: Arbok
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Originally posted by: MaryJane
anyone see those pics at IGN of the PS3 unwrapping?

my favorite pic is the one where the guy is wiping it down and you notice that it's almost as long as the guy's forearm, and it's wider than it is long.

Links sometimes help:

http://media.ps3.ign.com/articles/741/741368/img_4017717.html

sorry i'm lazy. that dude looks like he's about 6ft tall, making his forearm, and the console bigger than my original estimation.

Ceric · « **Reply #689 on:** October 24, 2006, 07:26:22 PM »

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Originally posted by: SixthAngel
It is officially gigantic. I am surprised Sony made such an ugly console myself. They seem to be an incredibly style focused company. The mall in my area has a Sony store and it is called Sony Style. They are obviously pushing the style of their electronics over the actual quality. Maybe it is the Sony "perception" (or maybe money) that pushes magazines and sites to use the word sexy at least twelve times everytime they talk about a sony gaming product. I don't know how people can rave about how the ps3 looks when it looks like a giant, glossy vcr from years past.

That was the old Sony. Pre-PSX mainstream. Though the Laptops look nice and this...

<,< >.> I want one of those... Especially after Vista comes out and I can get a fully Vista Ultimate Capable one. Plus a larger amount of space. Darn you Sony...

couchmonkey · « **Reply #690 on:** October 25, 2006, 08:59:37 AM »

This one's about a week old, but it doesn't look like anybody caught this: Sony cut its 2006 PSP shipment forecasts by 25%, to 9 million.

An article about this plus Sony's general money woes.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #691 on:** October 25, 2006, 09:20:01 AM »

That is probably to be expected though. I am sure Sony has put most of its money and production ability into the PS3 right now.

It still is shocking though.

I wonder how Nintendo is doing with DS Lite and Wii production and shipping for end of the year.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #692 on:** October 25, 2006, 12:42:52 PM »

Look at Sony's great Wii-esque demo video (yes that is sarcasm).

These people sure look like they are having a blast

JonLeung · « **Reply #693 on:** October 25, 2006, 02:48:50 PM »

Wow, what a dumb video.

They're not having a horrible time, but it's incredibly meh. They're not wowed by anything. They might as well have been playing a PS2 game. Looks like there's dust on their PS3, the woman doesn't really look like she's playing, the video looks low-budget, etc.

The photo thing, where the photos look as if they were physical photos, MIGHT be semi-neat...except for the fact that it's so slow.

Give it up, Sony. If that was a real production of yours (and considering the PS3 isn't out yet, I'm guessing it is), that's incredibly pathetic.

I'm going to go watch the hot Asian chick play Wii Sports: Tennis AGAIN.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #694 on:** October 25, 2006, 02:57:55 PM »

I think that is really stupid.

The expressions look forced, and actually it feels like my house when I play videos with people not interested in them.

They may smile, but they really are wanting to do something else.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #695 on:** October 25, 2006, 03:09:07 PM »

That video was a yawn a minute...

Ceric · « **Reply #696 on:** October 25, 2006, 05:43:49 PM »

Terrible. They showed a politically correct diverse "family." Not very realistic. Then they showed a basketball game that looked like it could be done on the Dreamcast. I little samurai action... A little. Then the rest was Me Too! stuff.
The picture things was sort of cool but not very useful.

Of they would want to wow me then show me real people playing something like Liar or Warhawk that uses the motion. Maybe some online be nice. Or better yet I want to see the Blu-Ray playing interface. This was junk. It hurt there cause more than it helped.

This is much better
They should know there strength and go with something like this.

WuTangTurtle · « **Reply #697 on:** October 25, 2006, 06:03:52 PM »

it seemed as if the camera guy was holding a gun to them.....

Seriously i don't know how in the world it is possible for Sony to keep dropping the ball and not hear about someone losing his/her job, and no Lik-Sang employees don't count

couchmonkey · « **Reply #698 on:** October 26, 2006, 05:11:39 AM »

The reason nobody's losing their jobs yet is because the people who fire other people are the ones that needs to be cut loose. But you can bet Sony isn't going to fire Kutaragi or any other high-ranking types until PS3 is proven to be an absolute bomb, which is why Sony will not adapt quickly enough to Wii.

Oops, I've blown my cover! PS3 4EVER.

Ceric · « **Reply #699 on:** October 26, 2006, 05:25:31 AM »

This must be Sony, Really...

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