Author Topic: Sony getting hit Hard lately (Read 900519 times)

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #525 on:** October 11, 2006, 07:02:55 AM »

Spak you do bring up a good point, one that I have been wondering, what is the quality of the blu ray player in the PS3? It would really be something if it turns out it is poor quality and ends up biting Sony big time in the format wars.

Galford · « **Reply #526 on:** October 11, 2006, 07:09:58 AM »

Has any one here seen a Blu Ray player in action? I know I haven't.

The PS3 is going to be the first exposure most people have to Blu Ray.
Even if it sucks along as it's better then DVD the sheeple of the world will like it.
This is what matters to Sony.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #527 on:** October 11, 2006, 08:56:56 AM »

I think I saw a Blu-Ray movie playing in Best Buy, but I didn't want to go over there, and then be approached by a sales person.

It basically looks like HDTV, which is nice and all, but I really don't see huge differences between HDTV and standard defination. Yeah, colors are usually crispier, but it isn't enough to make me fork over the money to buy one.

capamerica · « **Reply #528 on:** October 11, 2006, 09:40:26 AM »

I would love to conduct a test where you sit someone down and start off by having them watch a DVD or HD-DVD or Blu-Ray movie and then half way or quarter the way into the movie switch and see if they can tell.

After a certin point you don't even care about how the movie looks and I really do wonder if once your really into a movie if you can even tell the differnece between the formats.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #529 on:** October 11, 2006, 10:09:16 AM »

Cap that would be an interesting experiment.

Simple to pull off as well...you can do it with a regular DVD Player.

Take an hour long show. Run the first segment in High Defination. have a single commerical or something...and during that commercial change the resolution to normal DVD standards, and continue the show. You can rotate between these formats, and potentially add better resolution sound as well...and see if anyone notices. I wouldn't even tell them they were being tested. If they comment on the quality at all then they noticed. If they do not then they probably didn't notice or didn't care.

BigJim · « **Reply #530 on:** October 11, 2006, 02:09:34 PM »

Want some more Sony comedy?

Wii and 360 are "too expensive" says Sony's Australia guy.

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KnowsNothing · « **Reply #531 on:** October 11, 2006, 02:26:41 PM »

Kairon · « **Reply #532 on:** October 11, 2006, 02:58:54 PM »

Sounds like the perfect psychology test!

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Kairon@aol.com

Galford · « **Reply #533 on:** October 11, 2006, 03:14:26 PM »

I'll have to check the Best Buy in my area.
I've seen the Toshiba HD DVD player, it looks nice.

However, unless you own a 50"+ Tv, many of the features of Blu Ray/HD DVD are useless.

I do like the concept of iHD and BDJ.
I need to proof read my posts better.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #534 on:** October 12, 2006, 07:13:27 AM »

Yeah, colors are usually crispier, but it isn't enough to make me fork over the money to buy one.

Usually that's because the displays are miscalibrated to oversaturate all colors since way too many people think that more saturation = better.

Arbok · « **Reply #535 on:** October 12, 2006, 07:22:16 AM »

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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Usually that's because the displays are miscalibrated to oversaturate all colors since way too many people think that more saturation = better.

Worked on the PSP with UMDs for a little while...

jasonditz · « **Reply #536 on:** October 12, 2006, 08:21:01 AM »

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Originally posted by: Ceric
Bad thing is for Sony thats currently there best division. If the other divisions where doing well they could cut it off if it was doing bad. There not though.

All the more reason... Microsoft can afford to subsidize a loser division forever, and will do so so long as they envision some big payoff down the road. Sony's not in a position to do that anymore, and that means every division will be kept on a short leash.

wandering · « **Reply #537 on:** October 12, 2006, 09:13:37 AM »

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I think I saw a Blu-Ray movie playing in Best Buy, but I didn't want to go over there, and then be approached by a sales person.

Next time you're planning on going, dress up like a hobo.

couchmonkey · « **Reply #538 on:** October 12, 2006, 09:33:41 AM »

I was visiting car lots the other week and I was carrying a shopping bag. It was like a big sign that said, "I'M JUST BROWSING, JERKS". I'm taking a shopping bag with me from now on.

Wii and 360 overpriced, lol lol!

Galford · « **Reply #539 on:** October 12, 2006, 04:02:17 PM »

Sony squandered their chance with UMD.
A lot of interesting cross media ideas could have been implemented on the PSP but Sony blew it.
The fact on average they costed more then DVDs but had less features didn't help.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #540 on:** October 12, 2006, 05:10:18 PM »

Not to mention people were not thrilled with having to buy the UMD movies in the first place, regardless of the price since they would most likely also buy the DVD version. UMD movies had failure written all over them even when I heard about them for the first time, having people buy an exclusive media format to PSP to watch movies was not the smartest decision Sony has made. It also didn't help that if a movie exceeded 2 hrs your battery would also die lol.

Ceric · « **Reply #541 on:** October 12, 2006, 05:36:49 PM »

Yeah, a stand alone player and another portable player would have really helped their cause.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #542 on:** October 12, 2006, 06:23:01 PM »

The PRE-PLAYED UMD movie section at my local GameStop is larger than the entire GameCube section.

Ceric · « **Reply #543 on:** October 12, 2006, 07:40:25 PM »

Yeah... Which really stinks and makes me wonder how much they make off of those...

WuTangTurtle · « **Reply #544 on:** October 12, 2006, 11:32:04 PM »

Whoever came up with the UMD movie feature for the PSP I hope has been fired, and whoever allowed it to see the light of day should also have been fired.

Galford · « **Reply #545 on:** October 13, 2006, 06:01:05 AM »

UMD could have done some interesing things.

Say you had an anime series, put 3 episodes on the disk and add an
episodic game that lasts an hour or two on each disk.

As a person collects the entire series he gets the entire game.
Saves could easily be handled via memory sticks.

Apparently no one thought of that idea, oh well.

couchmonkey · « **Reply #546 on:** October 13, 2006, 06:02:01 AM »

I wonder if UMD made Sony any cash?

JonLeung · « **Reply #547 on:** October 13, 2006, 06:19:23 AM »

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Originally posted by: couchmonkey
I wonder if UMD made Sony any cash?

I guess that would depend on the licensing, like how many movies other than Sony Pictures' own were released on that media, if any.

But I would think that any money they made wouldn't cover the losses on PSP hardware (I assume there are some like the other PlayStation products) and the lack of sales certainly don't help. All in all it's pretty much a failure, and I almost wonder how they didn't see it coming and people are going to look at the Blu-Ray with similar hesitation. After Betamax and Minidisc and apparently many other failed Sony formats, why shouldn't people be hesitant?

In the UMD case it was pretty obvious to me. ("Universal" Media Disc? Pff!) Pay more for less than a DVD? Why? If I really wanted to watch movies on the go, there are portable DVD players that won't require a rebuying of what I already have. I'm sure we've covered that before. Many times. Sony just isn't thinking.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #548 on:** October 13, 2006, 06:54:37 AM »

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Originally posted by: Galford
UMD could have done some interesing things.

Say you had an anime series, put 3 episodes on the disk and add an
episodic game that lasts an hour or two on each disk.

As a person collects the entire series he gets the entire game.
Saves could easily be handled via memory sticks.

Apparently no one thought of that idea, oh well.

Sounds nice in theory but in practice the game will just end up crappy like most licensed games. Especially since they have little incentive to make it good as people will buy it for the series anyway.

Though maybe they'll consider that with the PS3 and bluray, if it's possible.

Mikintosh · « **Reply #549 on:** October 13, 2006, 06:59:10 AM »

Sony PS3 to outsell Xbox 360, Wii says analyst I haven't heard of

Yeah, this reasoning kinda looks like crap, but I'm just a lowly civilian.

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