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« Reply #1125 on: December 17, 2006, 05:14:55 AM »
chocolate from Verizon is better than PSP and is actually selling. My friends got one it kicks ass.

Sony should have renamed PSP Walkman Video and it could have sold better. Walkman being the bigger brand. Oh wait Sony is full of idiots who forgot what started thier company.
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« Reply #1126 on: December 17, 2006, 05:54:41 AM »
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Sony should have renamed PSP Walkman Video and it could have sold better. Walkman being the bigger brand.


Maybe if we traveled back in time a decade or so. Walkman has been bleeding what little market share it has for awhile now, as they failed to adapt when Apple came onto the scene. Playstation is a much bigger brand name today than "Walkman" is, regardless of what it meant years ago and the success it once brought them.
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« Reply #1127 on: December 17, 2006, 09:45:46 AM »
In other news, there are reports of PS3s not coming with Talladega Nights bundled in. Since that bluray DVD was included as a freebie for the first 500,000 NA PS3's, this hints strongly that after about 4 weeks on the market, Sony has moved 500k units in NA and may be on their way to 800,000, 900,000 or even 1 million units shipped/sold by New Year's day.

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« Reply #1128 on: December 17, 2006, 10:35:45 AM »
Or it means Sony lied about that and only bundled Talladega Nights in the first 250,000 PS3's and might only have 500,000 units shipped by the end of the year.
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« Reply #1129 on: December 17, 2006, 11:12:12 AM »
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Or it means Sony lied about that and only bundled Talladega Nights in the first 250,000 PS3's and might only have 500,000 units shipped by the end of the year.


Yep, I would imagine that Sony only planned to have Talladega Nights sold with it on the initial run, which as we all know was an ever shrinking number until it actually came out.
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« Reply #1130 on: December 17, 2006, 03:31:36 PM »
Well people not in the know will probably not even notice.  Sony didn't even advertise that in their commercials.  Apparently Sony thinks scary babies, smashing eggs, and completing rubix cubes are the key to selling the system....

I'm not saying Tallagdega Nights is excactly a selling point, but it might as well be when they are advertising crying babies as a selling feature...

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« Reply #1131 on: December 18, 2006, 05:06:03 AM »
goddamint arbok dont you get sarcasm?
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« Reply #1132 on: December 18, 2006, 07:08:02 AM »
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goddamint arbok dont you get sarcasm?


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chocolate from Verizon is better than PSP and is actually selling. My friends got one it kicks ass.

Sony should have renamed PSP Walkman Video and it could have sold better. Walkman being the bigger brand. Oh wait Sony is full of idiots who forgot what started thier company.


Hints at sarcasm being used?
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« Reply #1133 on: December 18, 2006, 09:08:01 AM »
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I'm not saying Tallagdega Nights is excactly a selling point, but it might as well be when they are advertising crying babies as a selling feature...


I agree with you there.  Dumb movie > scary psychotic baby dolls.

With the font and whatnot, they should package the PS3 with the Blu-Ray of Spider-Man 3.  Actually, that's possible, Spider-Man 2 came with the PSP, didn't it?  They will probably package Spider-Man 3 with the PS3 next Christmas.

Of course, the PS3 won't be at a decent price until three years, and maybe even then it won't be worth it because the developers have all jumped ship to the competition. And/or maybe HD-DVD will be clearly on the way to becoming the dominant new format somehow.

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« Reply #1134 on: December 18, 2006, 02:29:07 PM »
Jesus....

Since when is getting a free movie an incentive to buy a VIDEOGAME CONSOLE?!
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« Reply #1135 on: December 18, 2006, 05:48:17 PM »
Phil Harrison being an idiot

Seriously, can Sony please hire someone who doesn't say the dumbest things everytime they open their mouth? I honestly can't take the stupidity anymore. It's like everytime a Sony rep speaks I actually feel dumber. So is Phil trying to say that the PS3 is so hard to program for that no one will take full use of it, or that the consumer is wasting money on technology people aren't ready to use yet. Either way Sony PHAILS. You've gotta wonder how a company could've crashed so damn hard.

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« Reply #1136 on: December 18, 2006, 07:37:17 PM »
I was gonna post that intereview earlier today, but never got around to it, its actually done S. Totolito(?) over at MTV. But you missed the best quote of the interview that I saw

"I fervently believe that the biggest challenge we face is that our industry is referred to as 'video games,' and games are supposed to be fun. Games should deal with fear, should deal with comedy and with death. They should deal with peril, with drug offenses."

Games are supposed to be fun!?!? who ever would assume that?

oh and there is this
Sony makes Top 5 Over Hyped List - by TIME Magazine
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The big story in computer games this year was HOW TO BLOW A HUGE LEAD, by Sony. Its PlayStation 2 was the champ in the last round of the console wars. This time Sony bet on a chip called the Cell and a disc format called Blu-ray. They're probably awesome, but how would anybody know? The PS3 is hideously expensive--it goes for up to $600--and Sony manufactured only a piddling few hundred thousand for the U.S., fewer for Japan. Plus it's hard to write games for; the launch titles were lame. You know you're in trouble when you get beat by something called a Wii.

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« Reply #1137 on: December 18, 2006, 08:16:28 PM »
lol, Sony's getting the Wii up the Arse. Go Nintendo, Have your way for a change
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« Reply #1138 on: December 19, 2006, 03:27:57 AM »
lol... Nintendo went to Burger King...

Anyway,  the day that Videogames goes the Way of TV and Movies and stop being a medium of mostly fun and into a medium of mostly guilt will be the day I stop playing videogames and become a Gamevalangilist against the Wickedness of these New Games and there Devil Systems.  Each chapter will be about 30 Bucks and you will buy it because you don't want that fun anymore.
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« Reply #1139 on: December 19, 2006, 04:00:06 AM »
Even though I posted that TIME quote, doesn't it seem like its been said before though?
I bet if someone were to dig through this thread, an almost exact quote would show up somewhere, or I'm just having a case of dejavu.

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« Reply #1140 on: December 19, 2006, 04:08:30 AM »
Games should deal ...with drug offenses.  

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« Reply #1141 on: December 19, 2006, 07:42:50 AM »
All along this has been Sony's race to lose and they are doing a very good job at it.  But then again, I think Nintendo would have been just as successful regardless of if Sony didn't make so many missteps.
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« Reply #1142 on: December 19, 2006, 09:53:01 AM »
Although this goes against my understanding of the great Miyamoto's teachings...

Games are NOT supposed to be fun. They are supposed to be entertainment.

A hollywood action blockbuster and a drama that forces you through an emotional catharsis are both entertaining... but only one of them is "fun."

Let's not be restricted by the normal boundaries of what "fun" is and instead search out a wider range of stimulation.

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« Reply #1143 on: December 19, 2006, 10:03:03 AM »
Trying to separate fun and entertainment is splitting hairs on a level I've never even imagined before.

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« Reply #1144 on: December 19, 2006, 10:06:55 AM »
No, it makes sense really. I mean... would you call watching Requiem for a Dream fun?!?!? I sure as hell hope not.

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« Reply #1145 on: December 19, 2006, 11:07:39 AM »
I see what your saying...It's kinda how a square is a rectangle, but a rectangle isn't neccessarily a square.

So having fun is entertianing, but not all entertianment is meant to be fun...
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« Reply #1146 on: December 19, 2006, 11:57:58 AM »
Kairon knows what he's talking about, but that Sony fellow wasn't very articulate on that point.
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« Reply #1147 on: December 19, 2006, 01:05:35 PM »
Well the guy that originally wrote the article did say that people were taking that quote out of context, and the way that Kairon put is actually the way it was meant to have been said, it just didn't come out that way.

But who plays games to not have fun? You can put in all the drama you want during the cutscenes, but if the game isn't fun to play, why should I care? If you can incorporate your "drama, suspense, drug offense, etc. etc." during some good, fun gameplay, then more power to you, and carry on, but if not then I think you may have forgotten what it means to game.

If I wanted to sit back and watch the "drama, suspense, drug offense, etc. etc." unfold, then I would just go rent a movie.  

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« Reply #1148 on: December 19, 2006, 02:15:25 PM »
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lol, Sony's getting the Wii up the Arse. Go Nintendo, Have your way for a change


lol, i haven't laughed so much in a long time.  I guess Harrioson deserves some of the credit though.

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« Reply #1149 on: December 19, 2006, 02:52:11 PM »
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Kairon knows what he's talking about, but that Sony fellow wasn't very articulate on that point.


Actually, I think that Sony fellow knew exactly what he was saying. He was talking to all those self-conscious gamers who will only play games if they're overly violent and, well, boring as hell just as long as they don't look like something a kid would play. Why else would he specifically use that example? He's stuck in the GTA pre-teen frame of mind. Anyone with even an ounce of intelligence would have known better than to have said something THAT stupid. Especially when he's supposed to be part of Sony's PR department. That statement is just ridiculously stupid.

What would have been a far better statement would have been if had said that games need to be used to reflect current societal issues. As a medium, like films and music, that can be used to reach out to users in a more personal way. The biggest roadblock to gaming right now is merging modern themes while still maintaining their engrossing interactivity.

Wow... that took me all of a minute to think up and boy does it sound about a billion time better than what this "tiku tiku tiku" could ever come up with. Personally, I don't believe that but that's neither here nor there. Sony should really hire me to run their PR department. I'd at least get them to stop saying such retarded crap all the time.