Author Topic: Always knew he was a phony (Read 30259 times)

Nick DiMola · « **Reply #50 on:** June 23, 2006, 02:58:12 AM »

Artimus:
The anger here was really sparked by the editors at IGN. Kotaku simply covered the news that Matt was throwing in the towel , and then one of the other IGN editors actually posted in his blog a fake article to see if Brian Crecente would pick it up as an article, then claimed he was a poor journalist for posting the Casamassina story and should do better research next time. From that point Kotaku retaliated and it went no-holds barred, which I really could not blame them. Though Kotaku is a blog and they post alot of stuff some good, some bad they are always one step ahead of the rest. I catch pretty much all my news there the instant it happens. So I'm sure in this case they read about Matt and posted it as news ASAP because in the world of gaming journalism, this is as big as it gets.

Rhoq · « **Reply #51 on:** June 23, 2006, 04:27:06 AM »

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Originally posted by: Ceric
Rhoq I thought I was the only one who had started with NES and had them all but SNES. Know I don't feel so very lonely.

I was able to play SNES (and Genesis) at friends' homes, but never had either one for myself. Glad to see that I'm not the only outcast.

Arbok · « **Reply #52 on:** June 23, 2006, 07:23:48 AM »

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Originally posted by: Mr. Jack
Artimus:
The anger here was really sparked by the editors at IGN. Kotaku simply covered the news that Matt was throwing in the towel , and then one of the other IGN editors actually posted in his blog a fake article to see if Brian Crecente would pick it up as an article, then claimed he was a poor journalist for posting the Casamassina story and should do better research next time.

Yep. To me, it sounded like the IGN editors were having their fun, and then never expected this news to picked up by the other sites, and then when it was... oops. Well can't just admit that the joke got out of hand, now can they, so they took the other step: accusing others and stating that it was "simply a test to see who would report" (yeah right...).

I could understand if this was April the 1st, but generally if someone on their own blog talks about leaving then why would it need to be fact checked unless you assumed they were lying about their own intentions?

Kairon · « **Reply #53 on:** June 23, 2006, 11:39:28 AM »

Oh for gosh sakes, Kotaku should just get a sense of humor and laugh along with everyone else! I wouldn't be laughing at Kotaku if only they weren't so defensive about the whole deal.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Jin-X · « **Reply #54 on:** June 23, 2006, 12:33:24 PM »

Kotaku deserves to be made fun of. If you got to to the part where it says DOAX2 and didnt realize it was a joke, you earned the ribbing.

mantidor · « **Reply #55 on:** June 23, 2006, 03:20:49 PM »

yeah derailed thread

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Originally posted by: Kairon

NO. You're completely WRONG on this. You're criticizing Nintendo for EXACTLY realizing their full potential. If it were up to you they'd have released TP GC exclusive this spring MINUS the extra 6 months of work they're doing to make it 120%!

We jump on you because with TP Nintendo is PROLONGING THE DEV TIME and putting MORE WORK into the game, yet you complain!!!

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

I've really never complained about the delay, I actually was ok with the first one, what I hate is the functionality tacked in at last minute, I wouldnt care that much if the game ends up being launched in december as long as its still a GC exclusive. It wouldve been really classy for Nintendo to let it be a GC game, knowing it wont do anything for the console and how it will lose some of its sales potential, but they would have focused in their last traditional zelda game, making it indeed the best ever. Doing this remote functionality is not the kind of thing an artist does with its work, the reasons behind it are purely financial.

Kairon · « **Reply #56 on:** June 23, 2006, 03:34:42 PM »

Ah, so your saying that the glory of the GC release of TP this fall is sullied irrevocably by its fraternal twin, the Wii version?

... that is a defensible position. *bow*

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Guitar Smasher · « **Reply #57 on:** June 23, 2006, 04:52:03 PM »

I think the reason why so many Nintendo fans dislike Matt is not because he's 'anti-Nintendo', but he gives an honest opinion. This is the opposite of the other IGN channels (Xbox, PS3), which hype everything like their console's a non-stop orgasm. This would seem unfair to the Nintendo fan, and instead of blame the other channels for their behavior, they blame Matt for not being like them.

Frankly, I like Matt because he's honest.

Kairon · « **Reply #58 on:** June 23, 2006, 06:14:10 PM »

Well, personally, although I respect Matt, I dislike him because in the past, he's consistently not "gotten" what Nintendo is and what Nintendo's tried to do. But lately he's sipped of the kool-aid and started to realize and acknowledge certain tenets of the Nintendo religion.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Ceric · « **Reply #59 on:** June 23, 2006, 07:55:25 PM »

Now we're a religion like Computer Science is suppose to be a Preisthood.

Kairon · « **Reply #60 on:** June 23, 2006, 08:02:31 PM »

What an IGN Editor has to say about the religion.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

mantidor · « **Reply #61 on:** June 23, 2006, 08:31:31 PM »

here we go again

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Originally posted by: Kairon
Ah, so your saying that the glory of the GC release of TP this fall is sullied irrevocably by its fraternal twin, the Wii version?

... that is a defensible position. *bow*

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

No not at all. Is just that although we will never know how a GC exclusive TP would have been, it would be better than what we are going to get, thats undeniable. I really dont care at all about the game's "glory" or nintendo financial report at the end of their fiscal year, I care for the best game possible.

Kairon · « **Reply #62 on:** June 23, 2006, 08:42:13 PM »

But... if that's your position, then nothing can be satisfying? OoT could've been better with another year of development, right? Or Mario 64?

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #63 on:** June 23, 2006, 10:52:09 PM »

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Originally posted by: mantidor
here we go again

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Originally posted by: Kairon
Ah, so your saying that the glory of the GC release of TP this fall is sullied irrevocably by its fraternal twin, the Wii version?

... that is a defensible position. *bow*

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

No not at all. Is just that although we will never know how a GC exclusive TP would have been, it would be better than what we are going to get, thats undeniable. I really dont care at all about the game's "glory" or nintendo financial report at the end of their fiscal year, I care for the best game possible.

Isn't it kind of presumptuous to believe the game we are getting would be better if it was not also on Wii? We still have no idea how development was split up between the versions. Frankly it is silly to make such a blanket statement that it is "undeniable" that it would have been better if it was not also for Wii, since you nor anyone else really knows how development was handled. Since I will not fall into the trap as regurgitating my opinion as "undeniable" fact, I suspect that LoZ: TP got the utmost attention for the GC version with the Wii version being built upon that. If anything if there was not a Wii version, the GC version would have came out sooner. With that perspective, the only loss is extended development time to try and perfect the Wii version on what they seen as a final, perhaps close to perfect game. Unlike yourself though, I am not going to call that "undeniable".

wandering · « **Reply #64 on:** June 24, 2006, 10:25:51 PM »

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But... if that's your position, then nothing can be satisfying? OoT could've been better with another year of development, right? Or Mario 64?

Imagine how much better Ocarina of Time would've been if they hadn't made Mario 64! Those bastards!

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Isn't it kind of presumptuous to believe the game we are getting would be better if it was not also on Wii? We still have no idea how development was split up between the versions.

If anything, the game probably got better. Waiting to launch with the Wii probably gave them an excuse to polish various aspects of the game.

King of Twitch · « **Reply #65 on:** June 25, 2006, 11:19:07 AM »

At the expense of cutting the cube's life a year short

Strell · « **Reply #66 on:** June 25, 2006, 11:25:36 AM »

I love it when people pass off the "What if" game as fact.

That's always a brilliant argument.

Really.

Artimus · « **Reply #67 on:** June 25, 2006, 01:15:48 PM »

Matt sounded pretty peeved over the joke, he didn't to find it funny at all.

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I guess I did have this coming. After all, I stupidly left my work PC at -- get this -- the office. Crazy, huh? Normally, people take their dedicated work computers home with them or, at the very least, wherever they may go on vacation.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #68 on:** June 25, 2006, 02:36:42 PM »

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Originally posted by: Strell
I love it when people pass off the "What if" game as fact.

That's always a brilliant argument.

Really.

I have to agree, which is why I tried to make it clear that it was basically my opinion on the what if. Frankly though I feel those, like myself, who play the "what if" we have more to back up our claims. Why you ask? Well look at the overhaul the dark zone got, shows me they are doing more than modifying the game for Wii.

Ceric · « **Reply #69 on:** June 25, 2006, 02:41:49 PM »

As long as Perspective is not lost things will be fine.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #70 on:** June 26, 2006, 07:59:27 PM »

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Originally posted by: VGrevolution Well look at the overhaul the dark zone got, shows me they are doing more than modifying the game for Wii.

They clearly didn't "stop" development on the GC version. In fact, I think people are making a bigger deal out of this than is necessary.

We all know the Wii is upgraded GC hardware which means that developing a game for both the Wii and the GC is immensely easy. The only solid difference is the control scheme, and I don't think that took 1 year to develop.

I'd be stunned if TP, on either the GC or Wii, wasn't by far the most polished and biggest Zelda game we've ever seen and we largely have to thank its extra development year for that.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #71 on:** June 26, 2006, 08:32:09 PM »

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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
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Originally posted by: VGrevolution Well look at the overhaul the dark zone got, shows me they are doing more than modifying the game for Wii.

They clearly didn't "stop" development on the GC version. In fact, I think people are making a bigger deal out of this than is necessary.

We all know the Wii is upgraded GC hardware which means that developing a game for both the Wii and the GC is immensely easy. The only solid difference is the control scheme, and I don't think that took 1 year to develop.

I'd be stunned if TP, on either the GC or Wii, wasn't by far the most polished and biggest Zelda game we've ever seen and we largely have to thank its extra development year for that.

Hasn't it already been production longer than Ocarina of Time?

King of Twitch · « **Reply #72 on:** June 26, 2006, 09:06:35 PM »

About as long as the current Iraq War.

Kairon · « **Reply #73 on:** June 26, 2006, 09:36:46 PM »

Zelda: TP is a quagmire!

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Rhoq · « **Reply #74 on:** June 27, 2006, 04:46:10 AM »

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At the expense of cutting the cube's life a year short

Let's be honest here. The GameCube's life needed to be cut short. It's reputation has been damaged beyond repair and it's future has been looking pretty dismal since the release of Resident Evil 4. Wii = a fresh start, something that Nintendo desperately needs more than Microsoft needed to rush the Xbox 360 into production last fall or Sony needs to release the PS3 this year.

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