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RE: Always knew he was a phony
« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2006, 10:26:42 AM »
I appreciate Matt more after getting e3 06 coverage from a variety of sources. Some sites really showed the fact they were amatuers with their Wii coverage (like Joystiq) Matt may be 50% douche, but he did a better job in covering Nintendo than most video game news blogs did.

Not lumping in PGC though, you guys gave excellent e3 coverage (except for Megabyte, har har)

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RE: Always knew he was a phony
« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2006, 10:30:18 AM »
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The fact that this prank is totally believable isn't a good sign. Matt seems a lot like me in that he clearly is a Nintendo fan but doesn't really agree with the direction Nintendo is going in.
Actually, he's been converted. In one of his mailbags I think he even predicted Nintendo to come out ahead next generation, and he accepts that they're going in a different direction.
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RE:Always knew he was a phony
« Reply #27 on: June 22, 2006, 10:41:35 AM »
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The fact that this prank is totally believable isn't a good sign. Matt seems a lot like me in that he clearly is a Nintendo fan but doesn't really agree with the direction Nintendo is going in.
Actually, he's been converted. In one of his mailbags I think he even predicted Nintendo to come out ahead next generation, and he accepts that they're going in a different direction.


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RE: Always knew he was a phony
« Reply #28 on: June 22, 2006, 10:45:09 AM »
It takes longer with people who aren't "pure" Nintendo fans.  I mean they want Nintendo for what it offers not just because it's Nintendo.  That's why they own other systems.  I like Matt for the most part.  There are things we disagree on when I read his work and I can pretty well get a good gist of things.  So I know where are taste differ for the most part and read with that in mind.  That's part of the reason I'm here instead of the IGN Boards.  I like the review and the people.  I tend to agree, I know it's hard to beleive, with what's said here then there.

I have to agree with the whole Baby thing.  Having a kid takes a lot out of you and I doubt that Matt is going to ever fully be the Matt of old.
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RE:Always knew he was a phony
« Reply #29 on: June 22, 2006, 10:48:22 AM »
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What kind of Nintendo fan owns a PSP and a 360?

'Nuff said.


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RE:Always knew he was a phony
« Reply #30 on: June 22, 2006, 11:05:45 AM »
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Originally posted by: Dirk Temporo You're kidding, right?


Yeah, actually. I think owning multiple consoles gives a better perspective.

I don't honestly think that it's impossible to be a Nintendo fan while owning other consoles, but I trust IGN about as much as I trust a den full of rattlesnakes.

The fact that even the alleged Nintendo editors (ie. editors paid to focus on Nintendo) seem to piss all over some of Nintendo's best games is bad enough (like MK: DD, for example), but when they turn around and praise some craptacular games on competing consoles, the fact that they've accepted money hats becomes too obvious.

I've always loved and looked to PGC's reviews because there has seldom been a case where I disagree with the reviews of the games. The reviews are fair and unbiased, often pointing out that, even if the reviewer didn't like the game, the reader still might for a certain reason or another.

To be fair, I never look to IGN for reviews anymore because they went through such a period of Nintendo hatred that getting an accurate Nintendo review out of them was like getting blood from a stone. They may have changed since then but the fact that even their Nintendo editors seemed anti-Nintendo makes it clear that IGN is a fair-weather friend, to say the least.

My prediction: Matt here, seeing that the Wii will be the dominant console next gen (it's pretty obvious that it will be, unless Nintendo does something to royally screw it up), will praise it to no end because it's the leading console in the market. He already did that with the PSP and only reversed his stance when it became blatantly apparent that he was full of sh*t.

I have news for you: fans who only support a company when it does well aren't real fans. Matt is basically paid to acknowledge the good points of Nintendo (of which there were many) and yet he doesn't even do that.

Until Matt starts being willing to support his alleged focus company (Nintendo) through both the good times and the bad, his opinions are absolutely worthless because they're clearly based upon something OTHER than quality of the product which, if I'm not mistaken, is what reviewers are supposed to accurately communicate to their readers.  
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RE:Always knew he was a phony
« Reply #31 on: June 22, 2006, 11:14:27 AM »
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It takes longer with people who aren't "pure" Nintendo fans.  I mean they want Nintendo for what it offers not just because it's Nintendo.  That's why they own other systems.


Here's the thing...I've been a Nintendo "fanboy" since the NES. I was 9 when it first came out and got one when I was 11. Since then I had only owned Nintendo consoles. NES, N64 and GameCube. I missed-out on the SNES which is one of the many reasons why I'm really looking forward to the Wii. However, it's hard to deny that being exclusively loyal to a Nintendo console these last few years can be very frustrating. A few months ago, I bought an XBox from a seller I found via Craig's list. I figured this would be a good way for me to experience some of the 3rd party games that never made it to the GameCube as well as the console exclusives. I realized that even though I'm still a Nintendo fanboy at heart, there is more than enough room for a 2nd non-Nintendo console in my life. Once the Wii is released, I will most likely upgrade to an XBox 360 and be happy with the "Wii60" combination.

Honestly, we all know that even with solid 3rd party support - the Wii will still miss-out on some of the "big" titles due to either it's hardware limitations (graphic/processor horsepower) or controller (yeah I know the it's got the "classic" controller, but still...) so the Wii will see "side stories" instead of entries into a main series (Resident Evil, etc.). With that said, I think it will be crucial to anyone looking for a complete next-gen gaming experience to own both a Wii and 360 or PS3.
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RE:Always knew he was a phony
« Reply #32 on: June 22, 2006, 11:24:19 AM »
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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
What kind of Nintendo fan owns a PSP and a 360?

'Nuff said.


You're kidding, right?


Hey now, I consider myself a pretty big Nintendo fan, but I also own PS2 and Xbox. I did own a Xbox 360 but sold it due to lack of good games, but will probaly repurchase it for Dead Rising, and I MAY get a PS3 at launch even at the high price or maybe not .
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RE: Always knew he was a phony
« Reply #33 on: June 22, 2006, 11:26:18 AM »
WELL, CAPCOM SHOWED GREAT SUPPORT FOR 360 AND PS3 BY SHOWCASING RE5 AT E3

oh wait, nothing of that sort happened.

The only Resident Evil news of E3 was the press release of an RE title for Wii.

Wii is confusing 3rd party support to no end.  The 3rd parties are having trouble dedicating projects to certain fridge-sized consoles without regrets.  I expect even more publishers and devs to be swallowed up or shut down this gen.

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RE: Always knew he was a phony
« Reply #34 on: June 22, 2006, 11:59:28 AM »
Smash Brother: Mario Kart Double Dash is as disappointing to me as SSB:Melee seems to be to you.  I think IGN might have been a tad too harsh on it, but I agree with IGN that the game failed to deliver the goods.  Not enough arenas (plus the ones they had were too simple), overly easy race tracks...the game is good but it doesn't make me say, "I never need to play Mario Kart 64 again".
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RE: Always knew he was a phony
« Reply #35 on: June 22, 2006, 12:04:59 PM »
And of course, I have my Wind Waker issues.

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RE: Always knew he was a phony
« Reply #36 on: June 22, 2006, 12:09:31 PM »
Gamespot gave Mario Kart 64 a 6.4

I just can't get over that.
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RE: Always knew he was a phony
« Reply #37 on: June 22, 2006, 12:11:49 PM »
Gamespot shall rot in hell.

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RE: Always knew he was a phony
« Reply #38 on: June 22, 2006, 12:15:41 PM »
GameSpot gave Donkey Kong Jungle Beat a 7.0.

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RE: Always knew he was a phony
« Reply #39 on: June 22, 2006, 12:40:30 PM »
"I have news for you: fans who only support a company when it does well aren't real fans."

If Matt is losing interest in Nintendo it might not just be because the company isn't doing as well (in terms of market share).  I was still a big Nintendo fan on the N64.  My fandom died down a fair bit on the Cube, not just because it was underperforming but because of what I felt was a change in Nintendo.  On the N64 you had to wait months between titles but it was okay because they were the best games you ever played.  On the Cube you had to wait months between games as well but they weren't as good.  I found with the Cube I couldn't just assume a Nintendo published game was awesome.  Nintendo just wasn't as on as they used to be and I've noticed a change in them for the worst (ie: they rely on their franchises far too much now).  The Wii is quite clearly a shift in a different direction and I'm not too keen on it.

I've been a Nintendo fan well past the point where it was popular to be so.  I've been losing interest because some of the things that made me a Nintendo fan in the first place are no longer there.  The company is different now and I don't care as much for what they've turned into.  I think that's a pretty justifiable reason to lose interest in something.  Matt might be the same way.

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RE: Always knew he was a phony
« Reply #40 on: June 22, 2006, 12:41:07 PM »
As much as I dislike all of IGN, the Nintendo channels are all much more critical and interesting than any of the other fanboy parades. On the occasion that I read an article there, it's absolutely never at the Sony or Microsoft channels. I can't tell if that's praise or mockery. Oh well.
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RE:Always knew he was a phony
« Reply #41 on: June 22, 2006, 12:43:51 PM »
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What kind of Nintendo fan complains so much about SSBM?


The kind who isn't afraid to point out when their favorite game developer isn't realizing its full potential.


however you don't miss a chance to criticize me when I do the same with TP

This whole thing is pretty silly, I dont understand why kotaku or ign are making it such a big deal.

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« Reply #42 on: June 22, 2006, 01:02:18 PM »
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What kind of Nintendo fan complains so much about SSBM?


The kind who isn't afraid to point out when their favorite game developer isn't realizing its full potential.


however you don't miss a chance to criticize me when I do the same with TP

This whole thing is pretty silly, I dont understand why kotaku or ign are making it such a big deal.


NO. You're completely WRONG on this. You're criticizing Nintendo for EXACTLY realizing their full potential. If it were up to you they'd have released TP GC exclusive this spring MINUS the extra 6 months of work they're doing to make it 120%!

We jump on you because with TP Nintendo is PROLONGING THE DEV TIME and putting MORE WORK into the game, yet you complain!!!

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RE: Always knew he was a phony
« Reply #43 on: June 22, 2006, 01:57:39 PM »
The thing is, i've been reading some other threads about this on different forums, and it seems that a lot of people were quite happy to see him leaving. That's not going to do a lot for his confidence, poor guy. :p

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« Reply #44 on: June 22, 2006, 04:25:15 PM »
IGN gets more readers than all the message boards complaining about this combined (except if they're complaining at GameFaqs). Nintendo likes Matt, and the truth is that he's the Simon Cowell of gaming. Everyone is all like "Jerk. Idiot." but despite what every other judge says, people care most about Simon/Matt. An approval from Simon/Matt matters more than Randy/Blogs and Paula/GameSpot/Useless. Now not everyone feels this way, naturally, but it's the largest reaction. You never seen blogs with an article called "GameSpot editor says _____ about Wii!" unless it's like really insane. Matt actually makes news, and his opinion matters a lot.

That said, there is no way this post could be taken as real if you have read anything he's written recently.

And of the major sites (GameSpot, GameSpy, etc.) IGN is by FAR the best. I mean GameSpot is like a crime against humanity. I still can't figure their layout out.

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RE:Always knew he was a phony
« Reply #45 on: June 22, 2006, 04:45:27 PM »
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The thing is, i've been reading some other threads about this on different forums, and it seems that a lot of people were quite happy to see him leaving. That's not going to do a lot for his confidence, poor guy. :p


ROFLMAO!!!!!!!! Yeah, that one backfired on him pretty badly, didn't it? Even this thread has had several people come up and say, "Good, I hated the chubby bastard." LOL...

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Originally posted by: Kairon  We jump on you because with TP Nintendo is PROLONGING THE DEV TIME and putting MORE WORK into the game, yet you complain!!!


That's not my gripe, actually.

Manditor, I REALLY don't mean to jump on you, but I keep dragging out the argument because I think the delay of TP has a non-obvious upside and I don't think people are paying enough attention to it.

It's like this: you run a lumber camp and have two employees: a feeble old man and a strapping young man you JUST hired and is on his way to the camp right now so he can start working for you.

You have a side of beef roasting over the fire, but it's only partially cooked. Do you give the partially cooked meal to the old man who you won't get much work out of anyway or do you wait until the strong young man arrives and feed him a fully cooked side of beef so he can get out there the next day and mow down an entire forest of trees with his newfound energy?

Nintendo, on the other hand, used their matter replicator to duplicate the beef once it was fully cooked, giving a whole side of beef to both the old man AND the young man, so while the young man is slashing down a whole forest, the old man might still knock down a tree or two.

That's the way I see their handling of Zelda. The Wii is going to go out there and kick ass and take names, and it'll do it even more so with TP in its arsenal, but that won't stop the cube version from doing some good as well because they're making sure to release both after working hard on it for a little longer.
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RE: Always knew he was a phony
« Reply #46 on: June 22, 2006, 06:01:52 PM »
The Zelda:TP for GC will do absolutely NOTHING for the system.  When Nintendo announced they were going to have a Wii version of the game after promising month after month it was going to be a GC only title, all it did was put the final nail in the coffin for the GC.

As for the topic, it was all a prank pulled by another editor.  That person actually has a very good post about the prank and Nintendo.

As much as people disliked him, I had no problems with him.  I like the fact that he isn't like so many other editors out there that just plain out kiss Nintendo's ass every single opportunity.  At least he has the guts to call out Nintendo when he believes they screwed up instead of turning a blind eye.


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RE: Always knew he was a phony
« Reply #47 on: June 22, 2006, 07:20:29 PM »
Rhoq I thought I was the only one who had started with NES and had them all but SNES.  Know I don't feel so very lonely.

Could you link that post about the prank from the other editor?
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RE: Always knew he was a phony
« Reply #48 on: June 23, 2006, 12:21:24 AM »
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Now IGN's Tal Blevins [pictured] has responded to our ire, claiming the whole 'prank' was actually a test to see if Kotaku would run Casamassina's original claim as a story. Blevins admonishes us to "do some leg work before you accuse someone else of having no credibility after you run a Web log post as a news story. [Emoticon redacted.]"

You're right, Tal: We made a huge mistake. We presumed that a post from one of your editors on an official IGN outlet was source enough. Using IGN's own internal metric, we rate our reporting skills at the absolute bottom of your scale: a 6.8 out of 10.

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Matt's okay. He's tastes and priorites are radically different than mine, but, as other's have said, I'm glad that at least ign's Nintendo coverage doesn't sound like it was written by Nintendo employees.  
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RE: Always knew he was a phony
« Reply #49 on: June 23, 2006, 02:21:40 AM »
I'm still trying to figure out why Kotaku cares so much. Do I sense penis-envy?

But I don't read Kotaku (worst designed major blog I've seen, and not very unique) so maybe they have disorders or something that explain it?