Topic: "Playing with my Wii" becomes clean?

[JonLeung]

I dunno...the Mario name is still pretty big, bigger than Bob Ross (no offense to him), and I really did like my Mario Paint back in the day...

They could make two painting games...Mario Paint is about animation, really.  They have Sudoku in both Brain Age and Sudoku Gridmaster, both for the DS...so why not two Wii painting games?  Mario and Bob Ross are different enough, moreso than Sudoku is to itself.

[Ceric]

Yeah but the argument is that Bob Ross appeals to the almost anti-gamer side of things.  If the whole game was only 1 half the screen Bob Ross Episode and the other half a painting easel and like to follow along.  It would sell like crazy.  Bob Ross is a painting idle.  Everyone know him.   Plus he's calming.  This could have big potential if done by the right people.  No matter what it will sell some copies.

[Requiem]

No offence, but seriously -- Mario Paint would sell more copies than Bob Ross would. Even if the only reason is that more gamers would buy the damn thing more than non-gamers. My argument isn't about that though, it's about Mario Paint being made rather Nintendo funding Bob Ross.

Also, Nintendo doesn't have to show either Bob Ross or Mario to sell a painting game. If you show any person demostrating how to paint, and show both the complexity and simplicity of the game; that's really all you need. The idea is solid enough.

Just like the Drums demo (which is amazingly cool).  

[EasyCure]

i'd have to agree and say a mario paint game would sell better than bob ross anyday, only because non-gamers and gamers alike will pick it up, with gamers picking it up quicker. i see what you're saying Spak but in order for that to happen realistically is if the non-gamers buy in to the wii at anyway.

someone who bought wii with wiiSports would later pick up a bob ross game for all the points you made, but more realistically there are too many gamers out there that have played mario paint and have been waiting a sequel (especially those of us that didnt get to play the 64 game) who would drool over it.

i feel as if the two games could only coexist if they were drastically different: if mario paint went the route it took with the 64DD games and a bob ross game stayed true to what bob ross does (did)

bob ross only painted landscapes (with happy trees!), not portraits or still lifes (atleast not to my knowledge...) so having him do that wouldnt be bob ross at all. i'd expect there to be two styles of play. one would be just like watching the show, in which bob would be painting a landscape and you as the viewer at home could follow along using his tips and recreate his painting. you could be scored for accuracy and maybe like brain age, show you how much you've progresed over time as you get used to using the Wiimote as a virtual brush.  such a mode could be played, like someone else said, in two screens; one with bob ross and one where your canvas is, or even have a picture-in-picture type screen where a thumbnail of bob ross painting would be, getting close ups on the parts of the painting he's doing to help you get more detail into yours.

with mario paint, its established as a painting/composing/animating software so it wouldnt feel out of place to do those sort of things, hence a bigger game. bob ross would have to be a "touch generations" type title that would be $20-$30 because there isn't as much you could do. online features would be nice, like the art gallery on wiiCulture mentioned earlier. you could even 'auction' off some of your works, that coudl apeal to the non gamer crowd as well as gamers.

mario paint already has an established market though and it would be hard to topple if the two games co-existed at the same time, especially if both were devoloped by nintendo. leave the bob ross game for someone else, then down the line release a mario paint game. its the only way to go (IMO)

oh and dont get me started on a drum game ;-)

[Smash_Brother]

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Originally posted by: JonLeung They could make two painting games...Mario Paint is about animation, really.  They have Sudoku in both Brain Age and Sudoku Gridmaster, both for the DS...so why not two Wii painting games?  Mario and Bob Ross are different enough, moreso than Sudoku is to itself.

That would be ideal, but the point is that the NON-gamer likely won't pick up any piece of software which starts with "Mario".

I don't care how good Mario Paint is, average housewife/aspiring artist X is not going to buy something with Mario on the cover. Nintendo wouldn't have to make such a huge goddamn stink about targeting non-gamers if non-gamers all bought Mario games.

Bob Ross is a painting icon. I don't follow painting at all and even I know who the f*cker is (he's also commonly referred to as "Afro Man" in some circles) and his "Happy Trees" quote is also well known to the extent that most people will know exactly whom you're referring to upon mentioning it.

There's no reason Nintendo cannot make both, but let's not have any illusions about the fact that Mario Paint, no matter how good it may be, will not appeal to the non-gamer Nintendo is trying so desperately to attract.

[wandering]

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Originally posted by: Avinash_Tyagi

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Originally posted by: wandering
Actually, what I think most people will be saying is "Want to play some Brawl?"

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That comic strip is halarious!

Thanks, I made it myself!

Can I borrow it, I want to use it in my Sig on GS's SW forum

Sure. here's a slightly sig friendlier version. Sorry for the late reply.

edit: but after looking over that forum, perhaps the bigger one would be better after all.