Author Topic: New Tales game maybe announced for Wii (Read 18670 times)

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #25 on:** June 14, 2006, 04:22:19 PM »

The story exists to serve you lots of bosses to destroy. That's it's strength.

Cuz hey when you replay, it's time to turn off the voice acting, disable most of the skits, zip thru ALL THE TEXT AND STORY, and GET ON TO THE BOSSES.

Kick ass. Kick it hard.

Arbok · « **Reply #26 on:** June 14, 2006, 05:46:25 PM »

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Cuz hey when you replay, it's time to turn off the voice acting, disable most of the skits, zip thru ALL THE TEXT AND STORY, and GET ON TO THE BOSSES.

Preach it brother!

Who cares about the storyline? It wasn't bad, it wasn't great, it was servicable, but the gameplay is so damn good that I couldn't help but start all over again as soon as I finished, and that is saying something as I haven't done that with another RPG beyond Super Mario RPG and Diablo II.

Kairon · « **Reply #27 on:** June 14, 2006, 05:49:31 PM »

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Who cares about the storyline?

We ARE still talking about an RPG...right?

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

JonLeung · « **Reply #28 on:** June 14, 2006, 05:49:56 PM »

Raine is hot.

'Nough said.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #29 on:** June 14, 2006, 05:55:24 PM »

oh gawd, hot for teacher

Sheena would also look good with glasses, a blouse, high heels, and a miniskirt.

Kairon · « **Reply #30 on:** June 14, 2006, 05:59:48 PM »

For god's sake just buy a Tecmo game already! &P

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Arbok · « **Reply #31 on:** June 14, 2006, 06:00:11 PM »

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We ARE still talking about an RPG...right?

What was your reaction to Super Mario RPG's story then? Or the one in Pokémon?

JonLeung · « **Reply #32 on:** June 14, 2006, 06:01:44 PM »

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oh gawd, hot for teacher

Sheena would also look good with glasses, a blouse, high heels, and a miniskirt.

Pretty good wavelength we're both on. Glasses = intellectualism, and high heels and miniskirts are just plain smoking.

Oh, wait, you're the one who disagrees with me that Ada > Daisy.

Kairon · « **Reply #33 on:** June 14, 2006, 06:11:08 PM »

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We ARE still talking about an RPG...right?

What was your reaction to Super Mario RPG's story then? Or the one in Pokémon?

Super Mario RPG was eh to me, I mean, it had a clever role reversal for Bowser, but Geno, in my opinion, threatened to overshadow Mario as a Hero (which to me was uncool), and the game didn't pretend to be more than it was (Unlike TOS, which in my oinion gives lip service to addressing racism and the-world-is-worth-saving stuff). Nevertheless, my brother was the Super Mario RPG fan, not me. I'm the Paper Mario Fan.

Pokemon as an RPG has slightly different elements. If it was a straightforward party-battle system then I'd agree that it sucked. But with the collectathon aspect to it, it actually incentivized a full exploration of its world which shifted the game's immersion focus away from a single narrative thread and instead to location based substories. And again, this game didn't flaunt itself as something more than it was, it didn't have characters going emo to each other and just miraculously working through their issues.

I have more respect for crappy/mediocre RPGs that don't pretend to be more than they are (Quest 64) than RPGs that insult my intelligence by preaching about peace and energy and all that wonderful, wonderful stuff. I eman, come on, I'm based in San Francisco, I listen to NPR, I used to live and breath socio-political issues! I want RPGs to challenge me, not make me regress to my intellectual infancy!

...I'm crazy aren't I?

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #34 on:** June 14, 2006, 06:11:21 PM »

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oh gawd, hot for teacher

Sheena would also look good with glasses, a blouse, high heels, and a miniskirt.

Pretty good wavelength we're both on. Glasses = intellectualism, and high heels and miniskirts are just plain smoking.

Oh, wait, you're the one who disagrees with me that Ada > Daisy.

Different characters for different needs.

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For god's sake just buy a Tecmo game already! &P

Easier said than done given their AWEFUL CHARACTERS HAVE NO PERSONALITY TO THEM. And the games don't even offer the level of customization I demand. Just a bunch of rendered lifeless skin-color-swapped hair-swapped MANNEQUINS (MANIKINS).

Arbok · « **Reply #35 on:** June 14, 2006, 06:20:25 PM »

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I'm based in San Francisco, I listen to NPR, I used to live and breath socio-political issues!

*gasp* I had no idea we lived in the same area...

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I want RPGs to challenge me, not make me regress to my intellectual infancy!

...I'm crazy aren't I?

If by challenge you mean in terms of how tough that boss is, sure. If you mean challenge as in to produce a thought provoking and eye awakening peice of storytelling, then I would probably point you in the direction of films where they don't need to worry that the heros aren't fighting things every five minutes or that there will be a boss at the end of this little "arc" in the story.

Everyone looks for different things in games though. For me, storys take a huge backseat to how fun the game is, which is way Symphonia, Diablo 2 and Pokémon are some of my favorite entries in the genre.

Kairon · « **Reply #36 on:** June 14, 2006, 06:29:31 PM »

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For god's sake just buy a Tecmo game already! &P

Easier said than done given their AWEFUL CHARACTERS HAVE NO PERSONALITY TO THEM. And the games don't even offer the level of customization I demand. Just a bunch of rendered lifeless skin-color-swapped hair-swapped MANNEQUINS (MANIKINS).

Oh, ok...ummm...

How about Rule of Rose then?

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Kairon · « **Reply #37 on:** June 14, 2006, 06:33:28 PM »

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*gasp* I had no idea we lived in the same area...

Lol. Well, actually, I'm dorming in Fremont now, Devry has a Games and Simulation Bachelors Program!

Oh, and just to be clear, my views on ToS are mine and mine alone (obviously). One of my two best friends actually enjoyed the game quite a bit (he would, he actually seems to LIKE anime, yech) and he was the one always playing with me and pestering me to finish the game already. So, *sigh* diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks. *shrug*

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

KDR_11k · « **Reply #38 on:** June 14, 2006, 10:33:29 PM »

ToS is clicheed. So what. So is every single freaking JRailPG out there. If you don't want a clicheed storyline you should stay away from these games.

please let me in, please · « **Reply #39 on:** June 15, 2006, 06:56:27 AM »

Everyone hates my favorite game....

oh well. On another note, i do agree with kairon. I do like intelligent games and movies above the average straghtforward fighting crap.

Kairon · « **Reply #40 on:** June 15, 2006, 07:00:24 AM »

If Nintendo just released Mother stateside we could all forget our differeneces and get together to dance a happy happy song of peace and unification!

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

JonLeung · « **Reply #41 on:** June 15, 2006, 07:20:32 AM »

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If Nintendo just released Mother stateside we could all forget our differeneces and get together to dance a happy happy song of peace and unification!

I thought the Happy Happy Village was home to that blue-worshipping cult in EarthBound? You're not blue, are you?

Kairon · « **Reply #42 on:** June 15, 2006, 07:39:02 AM »

Argh! The Unbeliever has exposed our subliminal messaging! I shall smite him with my paintbrush!

You, too, shall be blue!

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #43 on:** June 15, 2006, 07:57:21 AM »

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ToS is clicheed. So what. So is every single freaking JRailPG out there. If you don't want a clicheed storyline you should stay away from these games.

Kai's point is that, for a game with full voice acting that makes you spend exorbitant amounts of time listening to dialogue, the story is surprisingly awful.

Ever met a fan of FFX? I've talked to at least four people who CRIED at the end of the game: the characters and their struggles immersed them so well that they actually CARED about them and what happened to them. That's unheard of for me. I've never played a FF game (other than CC) but stuff like that makes me curious.

ToS didn't even scratch that level of emotion, and while I don't expect every RPG to do that, they poured far too much effort into a storyline which was, to say the least, lacking.

But yeah, the real bread and butter of the game was the combat and I also recall the exploration with fondness.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #44 on:** June 15, 2006, 08:17:13 AM »

Ever met a fan of FFX?

For a game with elaborate fighting scenes that makes you spend exorbitant amounts of time fighting random monsters, the gameplay is surprisingly awful.

Kairon · « **Reply #45 on:** June 15, 2006, 08:20:13 AM »

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Kai's point is that, for a game with full voice acting that makes you spend exorbitant amounts of time listening to dialogue, the story is surprisingly awful.

That's actually your point, but I'll take credit for it! &P

I'm an equal opportunity hater. FF, ToS, SoA... I hate 'em all! I've yet to meet an anime-infused RPG that I didn't hate.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Athrun Zala · « **Reply #46 on:** June 15, 2006, 09:30:26 AM »

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I'm an equal opportunity hater. FF, ToS, SoA... I hate 'em all! I've yet to meet an anime-infused RPG that I didn't hate.

Chrono Trigger?

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #47 on:** June 15, 2006, 09:41:43 AM »

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Originally posted by: KDR_11k For a game with elaborate fighting scenes that makes you spend exorbitant amounts of time fighting random monsters, the gameplay is surprisingly awful.

So what didn't you like about FFX's gameplay? What did you think about the real-time combat difference from previous FF games? How about the leveling system? What about the grid-based attack acquisition system did you like/dislike? Did you find it too easy/hard?

Kairon · « **Reply #48 on:** June 15, 2006, 10:37:03 AM »

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I'm an equal opportunity hater. FF, ToS, SoA... I hate 'em all! I've yet to meet an anime-infused RPG that I didn't hate.
Chrono Trigger?

I'm not gonna say what you're not gonna like.

But I will say this: I dislike Akira Toriyama's art style with a passion.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Athrun Zala · « **Reply #49 on:** June 15, 2006, 11:07:58 AM »

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I'm an equal opportunity hater. FF, ToS, SoA... I hate 'em all! I've yet to meet an anime-infused RPG that I didn't hate.
Chrono Trigger?

I'm not gonna say what you're not gonna like.

But I will say this: I dislike Akira Toriyama's art style with a passion.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

lol, I don't like his art style either....(Nobuhiro Watsuki and Hirokazu Hisayuki FTW!)

but I'm guessing you didn't like CT, right?

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Author Topic: New Tales game maybe announced for Wii (Read 18670 times)