Author Topic: Finally, some SALES DATA... (Read 13192 times)

Renny · « **Reply #25 on:** June 12, 2006, 06:23:32 AM »

About Wal•Mart: one of their greatest achievements and assets is sales tracking. They wouldn't divulge what is so valuable to them internally and to manufacturer relations. That's my guess as to why they don't offer sales data.

Wikipedia entry on that famous quote.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #26 on:** June 12, 2006, 08:24:41 AM »

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Originally posted by: TrueNerd
I do have one friend that owns a PSP and doesn't own any games. He bought a 2 gig stick and put a bunch of emulated games on it, porn, and a couple tv shows. He is definitely someone that I would classify as a very casual gamer who spends most/all of his gaming time playing WOW. Maybe this is a cool thing to do, I don't know. It makes sense though, it is kinda silly to buy a PSP for its sh*t games.

He sounds like he'd be a rarity, though.

Or maybe I'm completely wrong: maybe people DO buy Sony products just assuming that they'll be better than others of the same type without doing any research beforehand.

It just doesn't make sense to me. Portable DVD players are much cheaper and not much bigger than a PSP. There are MP3 players like the iPod shuffle for $69 or cheaper which you can wear around your neck (I have one and you cannot beat the convenience of never having to worry about where the damn thing is).

If someone merely took a stroll around the Wal-Mart tech center, they'd see both the iPod and portable DVD players which are cheaper than a PSP even when combined.

JonLeung · « **Reply #27 on:** June 12, 2006, 09:52:57 AM »

I saw one guy with a PSP, just once, on the bus, and he was watching American Dad on it.

All I hear/read about on the Internet regarding the PSP are people trying to hack it and do stuff like put videos and ROMs on it.

The PSP is essentially a tech toy - and maybe my scope is limited - but from what I've seen, if I didn't know any better, I wouldn't've ever thought it was a gaming machine (that is, with its own official library of games).

Considering the price and game selection, compared to the DS's, and the general uselessness of UMDs, I'm surprised that it does as well as it does at all. Well, I haven't actually looked at the sales data that this topic is about, but I bet it's higher than it deserves.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #28 on:** June 12, 2006, 10:10:56 AM »

According to the data, the PSP is outselling the DS in the US over the last few months and yet there don't seem to be game sales accompanying it.

I'm betting that some of it is people waiting for the DSLite's release so I wouldn't be surprised if we get a surge in DS software now.

couchmonkey · « **Reply #29 on:** June 12, 2006, 12:22:22 PM »

I think DS Lite will have a nice impact (I know people who were waiting for it), but it won't be like Japan...hopefully we'll see sales surge to 200,000 or so for the month.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #30 on:** June 12, 2006, 07:52:10 PM »

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Originally posted by: couchmonkey
I think DS Lite will have a nice impact (I know people who were waiting for it), but it won't be like Japan...hopefully we'll see sales surge to 200,000 or so for the month.

I know even more people waiting for a BLACK DS Lite...
we were also waiting for a BLACK version of DS Fat too but it never came.

TrueNerd · « **Reply #31 on:** June 12, 2006, 08:47:57 PM »

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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
According to the data, the PSP is outselling the DS in the US over the last few months and yet there don't seem to be game sales accompanying it.

I'm betting that some of it is people waiting for the DSLite's release so I wouldn't be surprised if we get a surge in DS software now.

I think you're right about something being amiss here. Software drives hardware sales. That's the way it's always been, that's the way it's always going to be. What phantom software is driving PSP sales? Are people still buying it because it's a nice looking piece of plastic and it has good graphics? Is it an image thing? If it's not software, what the hell is it?

I'm gonna ask my friend why he bought the PSP. Maybe that will give me some insight, I can't wrap my head around this.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #32 on:** June 13, 2006, 07:37:41 AM »

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Originally posted by: TrueNerd I'm gonna ask my friend why he bought the PSP. Maybe that will give me some insight, I can't wrap my head around this.

I admit I've heard from a few people that they THOUGHT it was going to be the next great handheld when they bought it but they're still regretting the purchase to this very day.

However, I can't see that as being the reason so many people would be buying the thing when it's overpriced and there aren't even any games they intend to buy with it.

vudu · « **Reply #33 on:** June 13, 2006, 09:00:35 AM »

It's all about the homebrew scene. And the ROM scene.

Hell, even I was considering picking one up prior to Nintendo's announcement of the Virtual Console.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #34 on:** June 13, 2006, 09:16:45 AM »

But the numbers still don't add up...

If that's really the reason, then hacking has become mainstream.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #35 on:** June 13, 2006, 09:31:24 AM »

Honestly, with the PSP I think it keeps selling because even though people don't use them very often, they try to justify thier purchase to a friend by showing off what their PSP can do. That friend thinks its cool and decides to get one for themselves one day, and the PSP gets put righ back on the shelf to collect dust once again.

I never see these things anywhere, because no one is using them in public. I have a friend that swears by his PSP and the movies that it plays, but I call him retarded, cause he only uses it at home and he has the movie on DVD already, and he only owns one game and never plays it. His PSP is collecting dust, but he always pushes for someone else to get one, because he has one and its the coolest thing ever and he uses it all the time

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PSP is a status symbol, saying that you could afford one & are a "cool" gamer, but most of the people that I know that bought one never use, never take it anywhere and now regret having bought it for reasons stated before this.

They will all be converted to DS once I get my BLACK DS Lite, just like I converted them all to GC with my Panasonic Q and SSBM combo.

Kairon · « **Reply #36 on:** June 13, 2006, 09:31:25 AM »

I tend to believe that all those PSPs were bought, but they're collecting dust right now.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #37 on:** June 13, 2006, 09:38:30 AM »

They're still being bought at what some would consider an alarming rate.

It's like a market anomaly: the console is selling despite the fact that no one is buying any of the media that works with it, including UMD movies which are having TERRIBLE sales.

The real irony, if people are buying them for hacking purposes, is that Sony is releasing regular updates to close these security holes to stop the hacking.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #38 on:** June 13, 2006, 09:48:53 AM »

Did I mention that my friend owns 7 movies, 1 game & a 1GB MSDuo w/ no computer or local wifi access. So I know he isn't using it everyday, or more likely not at all.

I'm sure lots of people that did buy it saw a friend that was hacking the system(for free games) do it and decided to they would do it too, but then it became too much of a hassle and they never actually got it to work.

1 friend of mine use to use it as a really expensive mp3 player, which is also retarded since he payed about $180 for the PSP and $120 for the 1GB mem stick about 9 months ago. I'm sure he could have bought a multi GB iPod for around that price.

Arbok · « **Reply #39 on:** June 13, 2006, 10:55:07 AM »

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... is also retarded since he payed about $180 for the PSP and $120 for the 1GB mem stick about 9 months ago. I'm sure he could have bought a multi GB iPod for around that price.

Even cheaper; in fact, he could have even gotten a 4 GB Nano for $230 and still have been under that $300 price point:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0007Y79B2/103-2085036-0920668?v=glance&n=172282

Kairon · « **Reply #40 on:** June 13, 2006, 11:50:08 AM »

The 30 GB iPod with video also falls under that $300 pricepoint.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000A3WS84/ref=pd_cp_e_title/103-7420952-2191026?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=172282

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #41 on:** June 13, 2006, 12:21:51 PM »

Doesn't the Nano also hang around your neck?

Regardless, I know for a goddamn FACT that the Nano is about 1/8th the size of the PSP.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #42 on:** June 13, 2006, 05:42:10 PM »

but was iPod at these prices 9 months ago? Even if they weren't I'm still sure an iPod would've been a better long time investment towards it actually being used for some productiive purpose till this very day.

Athrun Zala · « **Reply #43 on:** June 13, 2006, 06:33:45 PM »

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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
but was iPod at these prices 9 months ago? Even if they weren't I'm still sure an iPod would've been a better long time investment towards it actually being used for some productiive purpose till this very day.

the nano was more expensive, but the video was the same if I'm not mistaken (well, the same begining in oct when it was released....)

Avinash_Tyagi · « **Reply #44 on:** June 13, 2006, 10:55:35 PM »

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Really though if PSP was keeping up with DS I wouldn't be surprised, it seems about every place I go to the PSP is right out in the open with TONS of accessories, yet NDS is jammed in a corner somewhere. If you were to judge a system's sucess by how visible and impressive its display is, then PSP would be stomping the heck out of NDS.

Don't companies pay for shelf space? So really all that says is Nintendo is cheap.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #45 on:** June 14, 2006, 04:40:50 AM »

I've seen my first PSP owner today. Status symbol indeed, the thing was dangling from his neck despite fitting into the presumably huge pockets of his baggy jeans (with the belt roughly at his knees) and seemed to be nothing but an MP3 player to him. I don't expect reasonable purchasing decisions from someone who can't even decide that it may be a bad idea to run around with thick trousers and a pullover when it's 30+ degrees in the shades.

Ceric · « **Reply #46 on:** June 14, 2006, 05:32:32 AM »

I do not think that companies "pay for Shelf Space" outright. If there is a demand then the bigger stores will carry it. Even if there isn't a demand the specialty stores will have it because there is a need for inventory. Yeah I'm sure there are indirect ways to buy more shelf space but I don't think you straight up buy shelf space or we see whenever a really huge launch happens suddenly all the shelfs for games is nothing but that system. Now Displays are another story. I'm pretty sure you can strike a deal to get those put up. But I think Shelf space is somewhat sacred.

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Author Topic: Finally, some SALES DATA... (Read 13192 times)