Topic: WiiConnect24

[KDR_11k]

Bandwidth is my biggest concern (especially if it was P2P, that completely clogs our upload and I can't access e.g. my webite's FTP). What if you have a volume limit or are on a shared network with other people trying to access the net as well? Filesharing eats a lot of bandwidth so a console doing that constantly would severely impact your surfing.

[The Omen]

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Bandwidth is my biggest concern (especially if it was P2P, that completely clogs our upload and I can't access e.g. my webite's FTP). What if you have a volume limit or are on a shared network with other people trying to access the net as well? Filesharing eats a lot of bandwidth so a console doing that constantly would severely impact your surfing.

Don't share.

[IceCold]

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now, someone from nintendo needs to answer this: will there be wireless local play? If so, expect Wii to run rampant through dormatories across America (and RUIN freshmen's GPAs

Yes there will be, but I'll do you one better; the Wii supports single disc wireless LAN play - amazing!

[18 Days]

So is this going to give me the weather in the morning or what?

[Ceric]

Yes it will, directly, to your brain.  

After 30 minutes of searching, using google and the internal search (which stinks), I couldn't find my post were I talked about the Wii assimilating with you and you became part of the Wii.  Nintendo would then slowly take over the world.  If any can remember were the original post is a link be greatly appreciated.  My little synopsis does not do it justice.

But just think... Once you are one with your Wii Nintendo would have given you all sorts of exciting enhancements and no will to go against your master but you will be happy for it.  Virtual reality would then be a trivial matter with full integration.  WiiConnect24 will link you into one collective.  Games could be written and shared by ones mind.  The brain has an unknown limit on storage but it must be greater then current technology.  Life will be better when you become Wii.

Also in regards to the Harddrive plug in.  Iwata mentioned it earlier in the year, like a month back, also at that time gave all indications that Nintendo would never offer a harddrive accessory of there own.  He kept emphasizing that Thirfd Party external harddrives.  If I was Nintendo I personally wouldn't get into that quagmire either.

[The Omen]

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quagmire

You get 11 points for the word 'quagmire'

[AnyoneEB]

Stimutacs Addict: The discs are writeable, so it does not matter if the disc is in the drive or not when patching. I guess the flash would have to have a list of games you own to know which patches to download, though.

jasonditz: Not [just] checksums, crypographic signing is needed. Even without using Bit Torrent to distribute updates, the updates need to be signed.

Actually, when Iwata was talking about lowering start-up times along with an always on console, I was thinking that it would be in a sleep mode with the RAM holding whatever data would normally be read from the disc when you turn on the console, so it would start instantly like a cartridge-based system.

[NWR_pap64]

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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
I agree that it's convenient and that it will help non-gamers, but my issue is that I don't see this as a reason to buy the Wii...not yet, anyway.

I'm the type who wants real voice chat, too. Like a headset with mic. I can't be pausing mid-game to speak into the Wiimote.

It's a timesaver, sure, but I don't see why it was a "secret" which was withheld until E3 unless Nintendo has some very special plans for it.

Of course this isn't the big reason to buy a Wii. It's the controller and the games that make the console a buy. This is merely a small extra to help everyone enjoy their games.

I agree that this isn't all that big of a secret....yet again, it's been said that this may not be the big secret Nintendo was talking about and I have read that not ALL of the Wii's features have been revealed and they may drop tidbits before the release of the system.

[Kairon]

Here's an interesting comment Iwata made recently to The Street's Troy Wolverton at next-gen.biz:

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However, he is a believer in downloadable content. "We believe it's important for software to be fresh every day," he said. "That is one of the reasons why Nintendo is now introducing the WiiConnect24 mechanism for the Wii. In other words, 24 hours a day, we can always be connected with the Internet, thereby people, before they know it, can actually receive something new all the time."

It sounds like Nintendo is going to WiiConnect24 as a sort of special-surprise service for gamers. His comments about making the software be fresh everyday makes me wonder if games will not just be able to download token items and stuff like that, but be able to dynamically have special events or circumstances everyday.

With this solution, harddrive storage isn't really a problem. A game like Animal Crossing can have a new holiday almost every day with this system and simply overwrite the last holiday's patch. Or we could get temporary holiday themed content and title screens the instant we turn on the system (Sorta like Christmas Nights and Kameo's costumes, but with no hassle).

Or perhaps variables in games could be tweaked on certain days just to make that day "crazy" and make the game feel all new: They might have a "hyper-speed" Wii sports day, or on different days of the week all of Wii Music's instruments become heavy metal, renaissance, latin, or whatever new musical instrumentation they can discover.

The WiiConnect24 is especially interesting if you could also use it to deliver small chunks of re-usable episodic content, like daily Sudoku puzzles, crossword puzzles, or even daily brain-training exercises to keep you sharp. Puzzles games could benefit greatly from this, as well as simple non-gamer titles like Nintendogs or Braing Age.

This would allow for the growth of games beyond what they were able to anticipate at ship-date, and would make the games a slightly new experience each day you woke up. At the same time, this would keep the focus OFF of incomplete games and large patches, but instead on smaller, more frequent, quirky, and interesting on a daily basis daily specials.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

[31 Flavas]

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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother

It's a timesaver, sure, but I don't see why it was a "secret" which was withheld until E3 unless Nintendo has some very special plans for it.

Unless, i'm missing something, seeing as how Sony decided to amaze everyone with their "brand new" -4D- controller technology that they completely thought of on their own and totally didn't get any ideas from anyone elses hardware.... I would hope you and gamers in general would take Nintendo's stance that they need to protect their technology and concepts more serious then ever before.

Sony has shown they have no shame and will rip off, for their own, what ever good things they see in the competition. Microsoft may crush you, run you out of the market, or buy your company to kill it, but, for the most part, unless you really are a problem to them, Microsoft will not just blatently duplicate and incorporate your idea in their competing product.

[Requiem]

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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
I agree that it's convenient and that it will help non-gamers, but my issue is that I don't see this as a reason to buy the Wii...not yet, anyway.

I'm the type who wants real voice chat, too. Like a headset with mic. I can't be pausing mid-game to speak into the Wiimote.

It's a timesaver, sure, but I don't see why it was a "secret" which was withheld until E3 unless Nintendo has some very special plans for it.

Well they did announce the speaker.....and they did announce WiiConnect24. The reason why the didn't announce something akin to this idea is because they didn't announce a microphone.

Now, I am positive there is a microphone in the controller. A microphone makes more sense than a speaker, but both of them combine makes more since than either one alone.

Plus, your not looking at the intuitiveness of this. Nintendo is here to market to both you and non-gamers. Non-gamers don't know what the hell online gaming truly is. They don't know how it works and how you actually go about playing. That's why Nintendo has WiFi built-in, that's why Nintendo has a free internet service, and that's why Nintendo is trying to make it so easy to connect.

Now, imagine Nintendo holding a demostration where it show's this very simplistic "phone-like" online connection. Non-gamers are going to understand instantly. "So I click my friend to call them, then we can sort out what to play as if it were a phone? Ok....I can do that" and also "Oh, so when I here my Wiimote ringing, I simply press "A" to answer, then I sort out what I want to play? Ok....I can definitely do that."

It's all very simple.

[KDR_11k]

Microsoft may crush you, run you out of the market, or buy your company to kill it, but, for the most part, unless you really are a problem to them, Microsoft will not just blatently duplicate and incorporate your idea in their competing product.

Did you manage to write that with a straight face?

[Frozen Atlantic]

^ Seriously. That post made Steve Jobs cry.  

[Louieturkey]

Yeah, MS doesn't blatantly rip off stuff.  They didn't blatantly rip off tabbed internet browsing.  That's for sure.
And they haven't ripped off motion sensing...yet.  But when they do, expect them to do it with style.

[31 Flavas]

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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Microsoft may crush you, run you out of the market, or buy your company to kill it, but, for the most part, unless you really are a problem to them, Microsoft will not just blatently duplicate and incorporate your idea in their competing product.

Did you manage to write that with a straight face?

You don't think apple was a problem? Apple had GUI, ms-dos was CLI. I'd say Microsoft considered Apple quite a *major* problem. Not that Jobs didn't lift it from somewhere else first........ that's beside the point.  

[Nephilim]

I hope they dont go with BT download style, as it doesnt work out well for people with NAT on
there is better share tech, which works even if you have ports closed
such as the tech limewire uses, that auto searches for more downloads and forces it self to max its download to its limit

[Guitar Smasher]

If I was working for Nintendo, I'd use this to pull off the world's biggest april fool's prank.