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Wii Time Capsule Thread: Predict the future
« on: April 28, 2006, 09:05:53 PM »
Make your predictions now people, come back after launch and see if you have some sort of pyschic ability to forsee the future.
is nintendo doomed from the start? succesful launch?? number one contendor???
you tell me.
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RE: Wii Time Capsule Thread: Predict the future
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2006, 09:13:53 PM »
I'm not going to make a fool of myself by guessing, because I honestly don't know.  I think Wii has the potential, and I think it's attracting attention,  and I think a LOT of people will be interested in what it can do.
It could perceivably take the top spot.
But I won't say anything for certain.  I'm not sure.

Cool thread idea, by the way.
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RE:Wii Time Capsule Thread: Predict the future
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2006, 09:33:36 PM »
I like threads like this ^^

Right now I think it's between Sony and Nintendo. Xbox360 could take off once the Mistwalker games are out, but after the anticipated N3 did not deliver, things are looking rather bleak. Is it just me, or is there STILL no reason to buy a 360? And MS can't be #1 until they can sell in Japan, once they get the Japanese support, the big companies like Capcom, Namco, and Konami might take them seriously, but until then... We'll be seeing the same type of games on the sytem.

I think Wii has the biggest chance of getting a MUST have game for everyone. A game that is hyped to no end and is a real system seller (ala Super Mario Bros). Wether they will take the #1 spot is anyone's guess, but I think the potential is definately there. It would be soooo nice if Wii took the top slot right from release, then we could say something like, "Nintendo made Sony cry wii wii wii all the way home." ^_^
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RE: Wii Time Capsule Thread: Predict the future
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2006, 10:10:06 PM »
PS3 and Wii will duke it out for Japan, while the 360 and PS3 will duke it out for NA and Europe, in the end my guess is the split will be much more even next gen.

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RE: Wii Time Capsule Thread: Predict the future
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2006, 10:20:47 PM »
I think Wii will definitely either be first, second or third.

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RE:Wii Time Capsule Thread: Predict the future
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2006, 10:22:23 PM »
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RE: Wii Time Capsule Thread: Predict the future
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2006, 10:22:35 PM »
I think Wii will have to do one of two things: it'll sell about as much as Gamecube (due to fanbase, and those others who become interested) or it'll crush the Xbox 360.  I can say with near-certainty that it'll dominate the 360 in Japan.
I'm thinking that it'll probably outdo Xbox 360 worldwide by a pretty wide margin.  I'm not sure about the PS3, but I think the only people buying 360s are the ones who own one now, trying to justify a crappy purchase (a la PSP, except possibly worse).

(I think that may be  the first time I typed Wii instinctively, without thinking Rev at all.  Already ingrained )
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RE: Wii Time Capsule Thread: Predict the future
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2006, 10:30:22 PM »
Prediction: The US launch is very subdued, but the Japanese launch is very well received.

Year 1: The Wii is a distant third in the US, doing similar to what the Cube did. The Japanese have embraced it in a significant way, and while the PS3 saw some strong early adopter numbers, most of the people who really wanted/could afford it got it early on. Wii sales going forward are vastly higher than PS3, though at this point the installed base is pretty well split.

Year 2: The Japanese market share shifts to Wii in a big way. The major Japanese companies start emphasizing the Wii, as the PS3 gradually becomes a high end niche system seeing less and less support. The US shows the 360 holding a firm lead, with interest in the PS3 dwindling as fewer big new titles get announced. The Wii is still a distant third, but the huge pipeline of Japanese games begins to attract a lot of interest.

Year 3: In a stunning development, a major Japanese studio, experiencing flagging earnings as it's critically acclaimed PS3 blockbusters see less and less consumer interest drops PS3 support entirely to focus on the Wii. Sony announces a major pricedrop at E3 2009 and a Wiimote type controller, but the Wii steals the show with an unprecidented level of original support from Japanese devs. The Wii becomes a virtual monopoly in Japan, with Wii ports becoming the bulk of the major releases for the PS3 going forward. The 360 is tops in the US, and the Wii is the fastest growing market share.

Year 4: Microsoft announces the Xbox 720. It also announces that it was no longer support the Japanese market moving forward. They release impressive specs for the system, but refuse to show the controller until closer to launch. The Wii quickly moves into #2 in the US, and Sony becomes a worldwide third. Nintendo announces the codename of it's next system at E3 2010. Sony surprises everyone by not even talking about the PS4... amid speculation that increasing losses may have Sony corporate rethinking it's video game division.

Year 5:

Microsoft launches the 720. Though the controller is shaped like the original Xbox controller, it has no inherent buttons on it. Using new advances in organic semiconductors, the console defines buttons and controls in real time and varies from game to game. The buttons appear "painted on", but a force feedback system allows the user to feel as though he's pressing a button when one is touched. The button display system can also be used to display a small touch screen display on the middle of the controller.

Nintendo displays the Allso Wii... it's new system. The hardware specs resemble a souped up Xbox 360, but again, the news is in the controller. Keeping a Wii-esque nunchaku controller for basic input, the system also adds the first commercial neural interface. The standard model system displays on a television, but support is also announced for an optional stereoscopic headmounted display with headphones and mic that connects to the neural interface. While in most games the display only functions as an HDTV, Namco-Bandai jumps onboard early by announcing a fully-immersive MMORPG using the .Hack// license.

Sony shocks the world by announcing that their new system, the "PS For" (avoiding the expectation that a numerical sequel would have) will be a joint venture between Sony, Panasonic, and Philips. Essentially, the system is a smaller, cheaper version of the PS3 marketed primarily as a BluRay player slash PVR. Advances in storage and compression technology allow Sony to offer PS1 and PS2 games for download on their own download service. PS3 games will be rebranded as PSF games, although old PS3 titles will still play on the new system. The much smaller form factor and sensible price makes it a popular "second console" for Japanese gamers, though a large number of people buy the systems simply for the  PVR features and BluRay.

Sammy Corporation announces it's own Japan-only system a year later (two years after the 720's launch). Through a licensing agreement with Microsoft, the system is basically a 720 with a smaller form factor (though for licensing reasons the two are not compatible). Sega continues to release "ports" for both system (which are really just regional conversions). In a deal to help finance the launch, Sega's PSF and Wii-line studios are spun off as a private company, 40 percent owned by Sammy, 40 percent owned by Nintendo, and 20 percent sold at an IPO. The studios have limited rights to use Sega's properties for new titles and also retain ownership of all of Sega's back catalog of games released on Sony or Nintendo systems.  

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RE: Wii Time Capsule Thread: Predict the future
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2006, 10:31:20 PM »
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If anything is going to cause the downfall of the mighty Wii, it's all this "satire."

Not that I'm going to tell people to stop, because I think things should be made fun of whenever possible. Except in this case. Because isn't that just a tad explicit for our forums?  
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RE: Wii Time Capsule Thread: Predict the future
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2006, 10:43:35 PM »
I have no problem with it, I'm sure once E3 hits we will understand the concept. Either way, I'm sure the games will be kickass. From what I'm hearing wii can produce great results on the graphical side, so it indeed has the power. Personally I can't wait to have me very own wii.

Can we name PGC to planetwiid.com? kinda sounds like weed:P yes I'm playing with the name, which I think is fun and rather amusing. Atleast it's getting talked about, perhaps that's what Nintendo wanted.
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RE:Wii Time Capsule Thread: Predict the future
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2006, 10:44:02 PM »
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Taking into account the controller and how unique it is. Interesting enough, I think some games could be perfect for Wii and might offer the best control of any platform. - Mr. Schappert


I agree

Wii will be a a resounding sucess.
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RE:Wii Time Capsule Thread: Predict the future
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2006, 10:52:19 PM »
Year one: Wii Pwns with a capital 'O'
Year two: Xbox360 finally comes out with it's killer app, it sells three copies. Wii's biggest flop, a game that displays only a blank screen, sells well over 17 copies.
Year three: Sony unveils the freedom controller, a wand-like controller with two position sensors on the end for x-tra accuracy.
Year three.1: Turns out Sony has been printing their own money for years, giant ants take over the corperation and turn it into a successful Norwegian shipping company.
Year four: I die happy.
Year five: I make millions on the art I sell after faking my own death.
Year six: Wii still Owns with a capital 'P', and I retire to play Super Smash Brothers: WiiLii (Melee, get it?)
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RE:Wii Time Capsule Thread: Predict the future
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2006, 11:38:41 PM »
Don't shoot the messenger, I didn't make it; just passing it on so people know what they are facing for the next five years.  The jokes are only going to go further.  Christ, they named their console Wii.  They deserve it.  
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RE: Wii Time Capsule Thread: Predict the future
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2006, 05:33:36 AM »
Wii will be scooped up quickly by the hardcore early adopters.

Sales slow as Nintendo's marketing hasn't yet resonated as the next hip ipod "thing" outside of the gamer audience.

Sales pick up in early year 3 and gain steam due to a price drop, the brand being more identifiable, and gamers looking for a second system.

3rd part support is improved somewhat as both 360 and Wii take chunks out of Sony's dominant position.

The "second console" households increase modestly from their current 25% to 30-35% with Wii winning the bulk of that increase.

Approximate worldwide marketshare:

PS3: 40%
360: 30%
Wii: 30%

Blu-Ray fails to be adopted as the next HD standard, despite PS3's sales.

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There are 2 things I am interested in seeing...

1. How much Sony is broken from their current dominant position. (Not overtaken, but less dominant)
2. Analysts claim the console market will grow, but I don't see how when the consoles and games are at least 20% more expensive on 2 of the 3 platforms.
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RE: Wii Time Capsule Thread: Predict the future
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2006, 07:18:30 AM »
The console will be either a resounding success or it will lead Nintendo to eventually left the console market, I dont see a middle ground for this one.

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RE:Wii Time Capsule Thread: Predict the future
« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2006, 07:48:30 AM »
wow good stuff. what about games?
any predictions on what games we actually will see, with features even?
lets make this interesting!!!
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RE:Wii Time Capsule Thread: Predict the future
« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2006, 07:54:28 AM »
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If anything is going to cause the downfall of the mighty Wii, it's all this "satire."


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My prediciton may surprise some.  I think the Wii will be a huge success right out the door, and never look back.  I don't know if it will beat out the PS3, but I think it will kill the 360.  It's looking more and more to me that MS pulled a Dreamcast, and I think they may introduce a new Xbox sooner rather than later.  I believe Nintendo will be a strong number 2, pressuring Sony for 1st throughout the generation.
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RE: Wii Time Capsule Thread: Predict the future
« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2006, 09:21:52 AM »
I think we need to change the name of the website to planetwiian.com.
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RE:Wii Time Capsule Thread: Predict the future
« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2006, 07:40:32 PM »
lol planetwiian...good stuff.
when i started this thread i didnt have any predictions myself, just interested to see what you guys have to say.
if i had to make atleast ONE prediction, i'd say that Wii will be a second console to most. as much of a fanboy as i am i dont think as good as the concept of the machine is that it will take number one by storm. it could very easily set nintendo up for a number one spot in the next generation. i feel as if ps3's huge fanbase will pick it up out of curiosity (and the price will help too) and get hooked. granted they will pick up sony games first, but might not be able to resist the charm of any Wii exclusives. if nintendo could get half the number of the 'traditional' gamers that sony has, the 'non-gamer' could fill in the gaps and not outsell ps3 but make it pretty close (like the ds). it would create good compitition and feel like the old nintendo vs sega days when they were at war trying to out due eachother. that woudl be healthy for the industry.
if i had to make a far fetched prediction;
if everything from what i originally said happened, nintendo would release their 6th console with new unimaginable features AND include HD. its not important to be because i wont own an HD tv anytime soon but maybe with the profit they could make on Wii they would use it to create an innovative system that isnt a "gamecube ++" and be on par with sony's offerings, and still innovative.
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RE:Wii Time Capsule Thread: Predict the future
« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2006, 09:18:14 PM »
Not much to say on this topic, but I do believe that Wii will overtake Xbox 360 in America and pretty much everywhere else. I won't go way out there and say it will beat PS3, because honestly I don't know, it is still a possibility that price could impact PS3 tremendously leaving the door wide open for Wii. I think it is all going to boil down to what kind of showing the 3 systems make at E3, if Wii makes a mind blowing showing, I think it is safe bet, with some decent (doesn't have to great) marketing it will be a big sucess.
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RE: Wii Time Capsule Thread: Predict the future
« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2006, 09:30:29 PM »
I think Jason is most accurate: the Wii will have a terrible launch in the US but do well in Japan and (hopefully) build steam like the DS did and gradually force its way into American markets.

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RE: Wii Time Capsule Thread: Predict the future
« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2006, 09:37:55 PM »
I think that also depends on how Americans react to the motion sensing.  That's a much more interesting device than a touch screen, it's something people aren't used to, and something that has tremendous implications (DS is innovative, but this far exceeds it).  I think it'll really excite people, especially when they see things.  We just need to spread the word.
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RE: Wii Time Capsule Thread: Predict the future
« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2006, 09:47:57 PM »
If they marketed it like it was virtual reality, then I think it'd do MUCH better.

"Nintendo brings VR home!" would certainly catch a LOT of eyes, gamer or not.
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RE: Wii Time Capsule Thread: Predict the future
« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2006, 09:58:28 PM »
Well, you have to be careful with that.  False advertising and all.
I think if they market it exactly as it is, people will be plenty interested.  It's not even like it's a small step up, this is a huge difference, and people will  recognize that.
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RE:Wii Time Capsule Thread: Predict the future
« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2006, 10:25:39 PM »
BOLD PREDICTION! The Wii will out-sell the PS3 in Japan. It may seem crazy but look at the DS out-selling the PSP a whopping 5 to 1. The DS has proven that a unique game system with unique games and even non-games is the ticket to major success in the homeland. The Wii is set to take the same path. The Wii-mote will also draw many of the most popular Japanese genres to the console. Lots of Arcade-style games that are still big in Japan and especially turn-based RPGs whick will now be easier to play and able to reach a MUCH broader audience.  All that in addition to the price and the back-catalog of retro games that are very sought after in Japan will lead the Wii to victory over the PS3. It may not be as large a victory as in the hand-held arena, but it will be a victory.
This will of course help dramatically in winning over Japanese third-party support that will help the Wii all over the globe.

So here's how I think it will all come out. The Wii will win in Japan with the PS3 a respectable second and of course the 360 is already out of the picture. In the US and Europe, the worst case scenereo is the Wii comes in third in a very tight race between the three. I think, outside of Japan, this will turn into the most evenly matched console war ever. Possibly with only a few million units seperating the first and third place. But with Japan, the Wii is sure to at least place second world-wide beating the 360. Even if the PS3 does sell the most units globally, it won't have anywhere near the dominance the PS2 had. Even if Sony does "win" it will still lose a massive amount of market-share.

I also predict that Nintendo will make the most profit off of its console which is what really counts.