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« Reply #175 on: April 28, 2006, 11:28:01 AM »
"Nintendo needs to utterly divorce themselves from the whole Sony and Microsoft marketing style of "cool" and reach out to new people the way they reached out to me with the NES and Mario... the message should be, "buy this console to have some simple fun". Forget about "cool". Forget about catering to the whims of an increasingly jaded and elitist mindset. Give my brother a reason other than a pathetic desire to be "cool" to buy their console."

Paladin, I couldn´t agree with you more. If Nintendo was all about being cool in the minds of these so-called "cool" gamers out there, we would have lost Nintendo a long time ago. Ninty has struck the right vibe by calling their console by that name, and local translation issues concerning actual meaning of it are...well...local!

Let Sony and Microsoft dry up their pockets in an effort to attract the most gamers, rolling out huge advertising campaigns. Nintendo was never about that. For Nintendo QUALITY goes before quantity, and so for them it´s  way more about an educated gaming population that appreciates great games carefully crafted over time and infused with love, than it is sporadic "cool" gamers and average "cool" (read: crappy games made by big name developers like EA, where you pay more for the name than the actual game content) games made with speed out of greed for more and more money coming from maximum number of hardware units dumped onto the market.

I really see Nintendo as the only one left standing within two to three generations, simply because they are the most profitable company of the three, with the other inevitably becoming forced to make compromises down the road as their cash reserves starts to dwindle, and their investor standing follows suit. The more money they blow on advertising, the more money they are forced to rake in, and if they don´t rake them in they post losses! That is exactly what both Sony and Microsoft have been doing on and on for many years! And they are bound to post yet more, as the gamedevelopers will rather quickly gather around Nintendo for the simply reason that it will be both easier and cheaper for them to make games there! This will impose a direct bearing on the whole of the videogame market to the better for gaming overall. Nintendo spend their money wisely, and this is the legacy left behind by the great father of Nintendo, Hiroshi Yamauchi! That is why they can afford to continue to stand up!, while the others are forced more and more down by their exaggerated spending craze!  

Nintendo has already significantly lowered the costs of gaming production, enabled easier gameplay than ever, and have already shipped over 1000 (!) developer kits to game developers already! Now if THAT is not evidence of a clear winner down the road, I don´t know what a winner is!

Nintendo has always given me the best games there is to play, so good in fact that I found it hard to find anything that was as good on the other two consoles, so I have no reason to believe that a name which at first seem odd, will change any of all that!    
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RE: Email Nintendo and tell them you HATE the name!
« Reply #176 on: April 28, 2006, 11:31:27 AM »
I'm wondering whether the European or Australian divisons had any input in this, or if they were told go to your room.

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« Reply #177 on: April 28, 2006, 11:40:53 AM »
Nintendo doesn't have to have a cool name but it wouldn't hurt them to have a neutral one.  Wii sounds childish and immature.  Being the kids console has hurt Nintendo significantly in North America.  If they had a more neutral name then they could let the console speak for itself.  There's no preconceived notions about it.  It's not a family console or a kids console or a hardcore gamer's console or a "cool" console.  It's just a device that plays games and anyone can enjoy it.

But "Wii" sounds like baby-talk.  It creates the same bullsh!t k!ddy image as Nintendo's other recent consoles.

Why is everything so black and white with Nintendo apologists?  "Well if you don't want Nintendo to be k!ddy then I guess you want Mario killing hookers and blood guts and stuff."  No I don't. "Well Nintendo can't be cool so they shouldn't try."  I'm not saying they should try.  I'm saying they should make an effort to not be lame.  What's wrong with Nintendo having a very normal name that no one would have any strong opinion about?  If the games are all that matters then why do they need an odd name anyway?  What does Nintendo possibly gain with calling their console Wii?  There is an INSANE amount of risk and there is like no payoff.  They gain no advantage whatsoever in choosing this name over something more neutral.

40 year old housewives aren't going to NOT buy a Rev because it's called the "Revolution".  Nor will they be attracted to it because it's called "Wii".

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« Reply #178 on: April 28, 2006, 11:44:52 AM »
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Originally posted by: Gamebasher Nintendo has always given me the best games there is to play, so good in fact that I found it hard to find anything that was as good on the other two consoles, so I have no reason to believe that a name which at first seem odd, will change any of all that!


I'm sorry, but it all means jack-squat if no one buys the thing because they have no idea what it is.

It's possible to be cool and yet appeal to the average person at the same time. Best example? The iPod. The iPod didn't try to be so ambitious as to replace a proper noun in any language and its name fits what is: a pod-shaped device which belongs to you. Even the name "iPod" suggests that the device has a presence of some kind.

"wii" has none of that. It could be a soda, a plant, a line of women's clothing, etc. No matter what you may believe it is, it sounds pretentious and manufactured by advertisers.
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« Reply #179 on: April 28, 2006, 11:45:45 AM »
The problem is we are grown up, and "Wii" sounds like another "My first game system". Who's gonna be interested when they hear "experience sword combat only on the Nintendo Wii"?
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« Reply #180 on: April 28, 2006, 11:50:47 AM »
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane I'm saying they should make an effort to not be lame.  What's wrong with Nintendo having a very normal name that no one would have any strong opinion about?  If the games are all that matters then why do they need an odd name anyway?  What does Nintendo possibly gain with calling their console Wii?  There is an INSANE amount of risk and there is like no payoff.  They gain no advantage whatsoever in choosing this name over something more neutral.


This is exactly what I mean.

I don't see the need for a gamble with a strange and bizarre name. The Rev would have sold fine because of the GAMES. Nintendo itself cannot stop touting the fact that they're all about GAMES, first and foremost.

So what do they need this fruity-ass name for if the games are what could sell the console? Why have a name which will likely be a turn off in the US (and Japan and France hate it too, apparently) when a name with no potential negative connotations would work just as well?
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« Reply #181 on: April 28, 2006, 12:48:14 PM »
BAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

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« Reply #182 on: April 28, 2006, 01:02:01 PM »
It's cool because Ian finally isn't alone in something he believes.
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« Reply #183 on: April 28, 2006, 01:07:19 PM »
"It's cool because Ian finally isn't alone in something he believes."

That actually is kind of refreshing.

Though I'd rather Nintendo had revealed a name I really liked and everyone was agreeing with me that it was a good name.

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« Reply #184 on: April 28, 2006, 01:36:09 PM »
So would I. ;_;
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« Reply #185 on: April 28, 2006, 01:47:26 PM »
So this is what it feels like to be Ian.

Except I'm happy and the rest of you are not. Oh well.
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« Reply #186 on: April 28, 2006, 02:03:25 PM »
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"...Everywhere except the US, where people care more about the image than the product."

Actually, funny how that works out, they're pretty much neck and neck there last I heard. Seems the product somehow managed to be just as important as the image this time around, unless you can honestly tell me the DS is just as cool as the PSP in the US.

I've got to run to class now.


Yeah they're neck and neck when the DS completely owns the PSP, Nintendo has a fantastic rep with portables and they didn't give a name with built in jokes. And yet the PSP is keeping pace on image alone.

Now imagine the same sceneraio but with terrible rep and the bad name.

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« Reply #187 on: April 28, 2006, 02:05:40 PM »
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Sorry Jasonditz, but sales say otherwise.


Care to provide actual data or are we to be contented with broad claims that only take up a single sentence?


The GameCube, Wind Waker. There were quite a few people at my school that got an Xbox when they were gonna get a GameCube when they saw WW. They all loved the demo.


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« Reply #188 on: April 28, 2006, 02:09:51 PM »
I never said make Mario kill hookers or make it "teh mature", Ian said it best, why do they have to give it a bad first impression? It's like Nintendo is going to run a marathon and they put some weights in their feet for no damn good reason.

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« Reply #189 on: April 28, 2006, 04:11:35 PM »
Jin, calm down, who are you talking to.

I'm going to have to disagree with Ian.

"40 year old housewives aren't going to NOT buy a Rev because it's called the "Revolution". "

Sorry, you're going to have to give some evidence of that. I've already pointed out why they wouldn't buy a Rev: because "Revolution" still fits the status quo of arrogant and unapproachable videogame console names, geared towards the elitist group of geeks who play videogames already and thus alienating everyone else.

Wii is meaningless, it's a blank slate that doesn't fit with traditional or "cool" console naming and represents something completely different.

Yes, Nintendo's got an uphill marketing battle... on the flipside, they've got a new name to make all their own. "Playing Wii" just might become its own term, part of the lexicon, the way "playing Nintendo" became its own term when the NES came out. They've already proven it is at least possible, and it's what I'm hoping for.
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« Reply #190 on: April 28, 2006, 04:41:59 PM »
I almost never agree with Ian but he is dead on this one. I read Strell's post, I believe it was on page 8. Strell you are completely off base. If diehard Nintendo fans can't get past it when we have put up with all of the rest of Nintendo's questionable decisions, how do you think the general public is going to react. Nintendo hasn't learned anything for Gamecube. Anybody with common sense could have told them that people would not buy the console because it was purple, yet Nintendo didn't realize this. Hell GM changed the name of one its cars in Canada, the Buick LaCrosse is called the Buick Allure in Canada, because LaCrosse has a negative connotation there. I have a lost almost all confidence in Nintendo because as Ian says, they can't get common sense things right. Most of my friends won't even consider a Nintendo console now, once they find out about Wii it will just cement their current beliefs. As much as a lot of us here would hate to admit, Nintendo needs conquest sales for the Wii to succeed. With that ridiculous name, I do not see that happening. Love it or hate it, Revolution actually described the new console in one word. The controller and philosphy with the new console was revolutinary. Wii just leaves itself open to two many perverted jokes. I told Nintendo as much in a email eventhough they could careless.
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« Reply #191 on: April 28, 2006, 04:58:57 PM »
One thing I noticed in the CNN interview with Perrin Kaplar is that she says the reason they revealed the name now instead of at E3 is because they wanted gamers to vent first before showing off the Wii at E3.

Nintendo KNEW that the name would be extremely infamous. It confirms that even they the name could turn out to be trivial. They also learned from the past and didn't want a Celda to happen at E3.

Although it would've been a lose/lose situation anyway. Had they revealed it at E3 it would've been the BIG joke of the show. They announced it now and now everyone will go with Wii jokes to E3.

Here's the thing people hasn't noticed, and that's that the media can be very cruel. I mean, last year when G4 talked about E3's showing they bashed the DS, even when the DS was already a proven success.

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« Reply #192 on: April 28, 2006, 04:59:26 PM »
Paladin, I really doubt that 40 yr. old housewives have the same taste in videogames as the rest of us.

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« Reply #193 on: April 28, 2006, 05:02:34 PM »
I'm not sure where I implied that; perhaps you'd care to shed some light.
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« Reply #194 on: April 28, 2006, 05:05:20 PM »
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"Playing Wii" just might become its own term, part of the lexicon, the way "playing Nintendo" became its own term when the NES came out.


Here's hoping the console's just so cool that the name 'Wii' becomes cool, simply by association.  In the end, the console can be cool, only on its own merits.  Even if NGage had the coolest name ever conceived, it would still be lame.

Even so, I still dislike the name.  Honestly, to me it sounds like they put absolutely no thought into it (don't give me that 'we' explanation, there's surely a better way to convey the same idea).

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« Reply #195 on: April 28, 2006, 05:14:30 PM »
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"40 year old housewives aren't going to NOT buy a Rev because it's called the "Revolution". "

Sorry, you're going to have to give some evidence of that. I've already pointed out why they wouldn't buy a Rev: because "Revolution" still fits the status quo of arrogant and unapproachable videogame console names, geared towards the elitist group of geeks who play videogames already and thus alienating everyone else.




There.

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« Reply #196 on: April 28, 2006, 06:26:00 PM »
It hasnt sink in T_T at this point, is pretty much useless for me to try to accept it or to even hope I wont give a damn about it just for over-exposure, because I dont think is humanly possible to repeat in my head more times the idiotic name trying to assimilate it, is stupid, is hideous and I will have to stand the crappy name for years to come with my console, ads, and forums like these one which I used to like so much, just... f!ck you Nintendo, seriously.





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« Reply #197 on: April 28, 2006, 06:38:00 PM »
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So what do they need this fruity-ass name for if the games are what could sell the console? Why have a name which will likely be a turn off in the US (and Japan and France hate it too, apparently) when a name with no potential negative connotations would work just as well?


hey i take offense to that. i'm an apple and even i think the name is terrible but doing go dragging the good name of innocent fruit into this!
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« Reply #198 on: April 28, 2006, 06:47:47 PM »
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I will have to stand the crappy name for years to come with my console, ads, and forums like these one which I used to like so much, just... f!ck you Nintendo, seriously.
Or maybe you'll realize you don't have to take it or yourself so seriously. Pop a chill pill man, lighten up and just have fun with it.  
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« Reply #199 on: April 28, 2006, 07:09:34 PM »
I dont hate it because its an slang word in english, as Ive said before, the jokes have no sense to me because my mother tongue is spanish, its the sound thats disgusting, I cant asociate anything nice with the sound "Weee" pronounced like that alone, its like a chalkboard being scrathed right next to my ears and I cant tolerate it.

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