Topic: Email Nintendo and tell them you HATE the name!

[The Omen]

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I think every last one of you is forgetting how the reaction to the controller was exactly the same as this. The same people were complaining about it, the same people thought it was a terrible idea and Nintendo would bomb

There's a big difference between 'WTF?' and "Oh dear Lord no!"  Most of the Revmote reaction was along the lines of wtf, not hatred.  Go check the thread, I believe the positives outweighed the negatives by a wide margin.

[Smash_Brother]

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Originally posted by: Hostile Creation If we can say "we" without thinking wee, we're perfectly capable of saying Wii in a similar manner.  Grow up.

Also, the reaction to the remote was overwhelmingly negative, initially.  I remember checking out controller threads the day of, and twenty pages are dedicated to whining about how terrible Nintendo is.   So yeah, it pretty much is the same freaking thing, now isn't it?

The controller is a peripheral. How it's used is more important than how it looks and Nintendo can and WILL prove that.

The name is just a name. There's no more depth to it than that. No one can say, "Well, let's see how the name plays." or "I wonder what developers will do for the name."

And it's not the people here that matter. Again, the people on PGC are already Nintendo fans: no convincing is required.

It's the average joe gamer who Nintendo needs to persuade, and with this name, they're going to have a lot harder time doing that.  

[eljefe]

WHY NINTENDO SHOULDN"T CHANGE THE Wii

I may be the only Nintendo fan who didn’t EVER make fun of Sony’s first PS3 controller. I was actually sad when they said it was gonna be scrapped (because of what fans said).

Sony changing it shows who's REALLY in control. To a degree all sellers of a product are guided by the wants/needs of customers, however, the most enjoyable games and systems do not cater to fans excessively.

Recalling a product before anyone even tried it? What is that? Sony may have created something comfortable and functially superb, but they didn't have enough self-confidence and withered under misplaced fan pressure.

They set themselves up for it, tho. By stagnating for years, they cultivated a fanbase that was used to conservative increments of "newness".

THAT is what seperates Nintendo from the pack. All companies are fallible, but Nintendo seem more willing than most to make HUGE gambling leaps into "new" territory.

They have deliberately cultivated fans who will "leap" with them, pretty much blindfolded, almost anywhere. THAT is why their fans accept no HD. THAT is why their fans accept an overhauled input device. That is why they can name their system Wii.

And the ones who "get it" will stand by them proudly: because its hilariously fun and invigorating to do something new/weird/out of the ordinary.

This name announcement is just another step in the process of knocking people off the proverbial fence.

More and more people will choose one side or another. There is less of a gray area. A sharp line between black and white is defining itself.

[Ian Sane]

"I think every last one of you is forgetting how the reaction to the controller was exactly the same as this."

Actually I think this reaction is more similar to when we found out that purple was the official colour for the Gamecube.

Smash Brother is right.  With the remote I really didn't like it at first but there was so much that was unknown.  There was a natural curiousity about it.  Even though I didn't really like the remote I wanted to see the games for it.  The name is just a name.  You can't wait to see what happens next.  Plus that's not even "final" yet.  For all we know the remote will be poorly received.

Plus people said the same thing about Wind Waker.  "Oh you'll get used to it."  Well it sort of looks like we did but in reality only the people who stuck with the Cube got used to it.  We didn't hear from the people who didn't buy a Cube because of Nintendo's switcheroo or who didn't by Wind Waker.  We only heard from the people who in the end did buy the game.  Yet the Cube still finished in last place.  Wind Waker didn't sell Cubes.

For years now every time something negative comes up regarding Nintendo the same people defend it and say it won't matter.  Yet the Cube was a failure.  Compared to what Nintendo was aiming for the Cube was a complete disaster and the Rev will be a disaster if it suffers the same fate.  So stop saying we'll all get used to this or this won't matter because all those things that supposedly didn't matter with the Cube DID.  If Nintendo had a better track record then these excuses would have some weight but for the last two generations there's been a formula of Nintendo making questionable decisions followed by an underperforming console.

[BigJim]

Actually, my pattern of thought went a little more like this:

September -- Reaction to Revmote: "Stupid."
Today -- Reaction to Revmote: "Stupid."

Today --  Reaction to Wii: "Stupid."

One guess what my reaction to Wii will be in a week.

That doesn't mean E3 won't will be cool. But I'm still not sold on the controller. So throwing this ridiculous name out there on top of it does them no favors.  

[TrueNerd]

You know, Red Steel had put me on cloud nine there for a while. "Nintendo gets it! They finally f*cking get it!" I thought. Then...this. What the hell. The console already had a lot of crap that were going to be tough sells to most people, they could have at least named the console something cool... like REVOLUTION. I have no problem defending Nintendo's actual games/hardware to my friends/coworkers, but there's no defense for this. This name, more then the controller, more then the lack of HD, more then the underpowered-ness of the system has doomed Nintendo to yet another 3rd place finish.

Ridiculous.  

[Rancid Planet]

My email to Nintendo was as follows...

Ah Nintendo, you learn so little from the past.

This is Lanny Campbell, resident Nintendo fanboy supreme of the website VG-Reloaded.com. I handle affrairs of Nintendo at my site. And I must talk with you about...ugh..."Wii"

So exactly what in the blue hell are you guys smoking anyway? And pass it to me because I could use some Nintendo smoke blown up my ass atm. I know you must've expected a negative reaction from at least some concerning the Revolution name change. I mean surely you've heard us Nintendorks mention by now that any name BUT "Revolution" would be a silly choice. Considering the marketing value of the name "Revoultion".

You say you want to breakthrough to the mainstream and beyond with the Rev...er..."Wii"? Wel then the best way to do that is to introduce the system with a name that all of the world will find cool and interesting. "Revolution" would be that name. It sounds intense. It sounds interesting and aggressive. It makes you feel like Nintendo may be going to start little something this coming gen. Something that might make them number one again. "Revolution" means change. It means nothing will be the same after it.

"Wii" is another American slang word for going tinkle.

Congratulations Nintendo. You managed to screw yourselves over and lose the race before it has even started...again.

For the sake of success. Please change your minds.

Like it?

[Hostile Creation]

"The name is just a name. There's no more depth to it than that."

So what's the big deal?

Check out the GAF remote thread.  Literally ten to twenty pages of people saying how terrible it is, and how Nintendo's going to crash.
Plus, you're looking at the remote in retrospect, after you've realized it's a good idea.  Hindsight's twenty/twenty, remember?  It's easy to say you didn't make an @ss of yourself then because you've changed your mind since.

Edit: Also, we had positive impressions of the controller coupled with the announcement.  It was confusing, no one knew what to think because it was different.  A name is easy to understand.  But the initial impression was still resoundingly negative.

[Ceric]

Actually I was floored by the description of the controller and very depressed.  They wanted me to do a good bit with fine motor skills.  I have none.  I failed the in schools tests for fine and gross motor controls.  Before it wasn't an issue but Nintendo then promised me it would be with the Revolution.  I was very sad and I'm still skeptical.  I just don't have the control that a normal person has or the same hand strength it seems.

Now they go and make the name something that is hard for me say.  That was another blow at almost a year later. "The Console Whose Name Shall Not be Said"  is cumbersome and I can't just keep spelling it out.  I feel pretty alienated by all this.  I guess I'm just not as hardcore as others.

[Hostile Creation]

"Today -- Reaction to Revmote: "Stupid.""

Well then you're just behind on things.  The Wiimote was confirmed awesome like four months ago.  Pay attention.
(I still find myself calling it Revolution, habits die hard)

[The Omen]

"In heaven, everything is fine"

[Smash_Brother]

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Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
Check out the GAF remote thread.  Literally ten to twenty pages of people saying how terrible it is, and how Nintendo's going to crash.
Plus, you're looking at the remote in retrospect, after you've realized it's a good idea.  Hindsight's twenty/twenty, remember?  It's easy to say you didn't make an @ss of yourself then because you've changed your mind since.

I reiterate, when I saw the controller, my interest was piqued. I was interested from the VERY start. When I saw the DS, I wanted one immediately.

I DIDN'T make an ass of myself: right off the bat, these were my opinions. I never changed them. I love the idea of the Revmote and I love the way developers are implementing it.

But "Wii"? Huh?

For starters, it's a stupid pun. "Wii" will rock you? Come ON! Since when have gimm!cky, stupid puns pushed consoles?

And there is the problem that it sounds very much like the baby talk slang for urine. How can you take the console seriously? I can't call Gamestop and say, "I'd like to check if you have a game for the wee."

THINK ABOUT THIS: My call to a store to check on a game can be confused with a prank call about piss! Doesn't that SAY anything to you!?

[mantidor]

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Originally posted by: Mario
Let's just laugh now instead

Im with Mario, theres really nothing we can do, its just a name and I'll just call it "rev" or "nintendo", how will this affect their performance in northamerica is hard to predict I suppose, but I dont see this name doing well at all...bah whatever...

[BigJim]

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Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
"Today -- Reaction to Revmote: "Stupid.""

Well then you're just behind on things.  The Wiimote was confirmed awesome like four months ago.  Pay attention.
(I still find myself calling it Revolution, habits die hard)

"Confirmed" by who and what, pray tell? What makes it a fact? When have any of us played it on actual games?  

[Hostile Creation]

"I reiterate, when I saw the controller, my interest was piqued. I was interested from the VERY start."

You are not representative of the entire gaming community.

"Come ON! Since when have gimm!cky, stupid puns pushed consoles?"

Never.  But no one's ever tried, either.  Besides, Nintendo hasn't actually used sparkling innovationy puns yet.  They have a coherent philosophy and design behind the logo, the unification of gamers and having fun together.

"Doesn't that SAY anything to you!?"

I don't think someone's talking about anus whenever they use the conjunction "but" in a sentence.  Do you seriously think that's going to be a problem?

[Hostile Creation]

""Confirmed" by who and what, pray tell? When have any of us used it on actual games?"

Good job getting jokes on the internet.

[Requiem]

The controller was harald by everyone who could literally think imaginative AFTER they knew what the hell it could do.

Alas, there is no secret special function with a name such as "Wii." On the otherhand, the name Revolution is just begging the question. It makes me want to try it out and see what it can really do. This is exactly inline with Nintendo's thinking. The name change is absolutely unnecessary.

I have never seen the internet blow up like it did today. What a terrible terrible name. Bad press is Good press, but not when EVERYBODY HATES IT.

So now Nintendo is faced with a very critical decision: Go back on their announcement and at E3 announce the new (most likely old) name for the console, or, they can go lose another console war and hope the DS bails them out.

It may not seem that simple. In fact, it isn't. But people are and always will be insecure. If "they" don't like it, then those people who want to fit in will also hate it.

I will still buy it because names don't mean sh*t. The Revolution is by far the most intriguing console I have ever dealt with, and to pass up on the fun....the fun of the many still unknown games would be a crime against my nature.

Basically what I'm trying to say is: This name doesn't help at all.

[Ceric]

I would like to point out that "We" in English can not be used outside of a sentence.  It can't be just said.  On the other hand "Wee" and "Wii" can both be used independently.  So yes growing up "We" said alone actually translates to "Wee" because "We" outside of a sentence is not really a proper word.  Now if "We" did survive out of a sentence this wouldn't be half as bad.

[The Omen]

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I don't think someone's talking about anus whenever they use the conjunction "but" in a sentence. Do you seriously think that's going to be a problem?

Hostile, you can defend it all you want, but your word comparisons are way friggin off.  You don't think of an anus when you hear the word but?  What if the word was Anis, and was pronounced exactly the same way?  It's the sound of the word, and the context it's used for sure, but if all they wanted was we, how about naming it WE?
 

[Ian Sane]

"I don't think someone's talking about anus whenever they use the conjunction 'but' in a sentence. Do you seriously think that's going to be a problem?"

Different context.  "But I didn't do it because..." is interpreted differently then "I sat on my butt."  Written down the words are spelled differently but aurally the context is required to determine the meaning.  So if Nintendo called their console the "buht" the context would be "let's go to the store and buy a buht" or "have you seen that new buht" or "let's go play with my buht".  In that context it sounds like "butt" instead of "but".  You would hever say "let's play with my we".  It doesn't make sense.  But "let's play with my wee" DOES make sense.  In the context that Wii will be used it fits with "wee" but not with "we".  Just like "but" and "butt".

To me the ultimate question is who didn't like the name "Revolution"?  No one had any problem with that name.  Tons of people are having issues with the name "Wii".  There was no need to change the name.  There is no immediate advantage to using "Wii" and tons of potential problems.  So they shouldn't use it.  It's as simple as that.  Option 1 no one hates and option 2 many people hate.  In that situation anyone who isn't a complete f*cking idiot would go with option 1.  Absolutely NO ONE would have been turned off by the Nintendo Revolution.

[NWR_pap64]

For those that don't understand why we hate the new name, I will explain to you an episode of the old Cartoon Network show "Time squad".

In an episode of Time Squad, the guys went back in time to meet the creator of the sandwhich. The chef had entered a culinary contest and was going to present the sandwich for the first time.

When it's time for him to show off the sandwhich, the judge looks at it and saays; "Looks very interesting. What is the name of this?". The chef proudly says: "The name of this is...STINKY PILE OF POO!". At that point everyone becomes shocked and disgusted and the judge disqualified the entry due to the very un-appetizing name. People associated the sandwhich as being made out of poo, and we all know that poo is not pretty.

The Time Squad guys try to convince him that Stinky pile of poo is a very bad name for the sandwhich and that it needs to be changed. The chef stubbornly decides to not change the name. He even opens up a store to sell his "stinky pile of poo". NO ONE wants to buy one because of the name, even if the sandwhich is very good.

In the end, the chef decides to call his sandwhich a "sandwhich", people eat it and they love it! And thus history was made with the sandwhich.

This is the same problem Nintendo is having right now with the name "Wii". It's a very unappealing name, very tiku tiku tiku! , childish and foolish, especially for a high end console like the Revolution. As it has been explained. Wii also doubles as the slang for pee. Plus it opens up the doors for VERY mean jokes.
"Nintendo's wii console revealed!"
"Nintendo's wii wii games"
"The Wii little console"
"Wii little Nintendo".

Nintendo MUST get rid of this image with this console, and a name like Wii is NOT going to help them. If Nintendo wants an easy to pronounce game why not "Go". Or N Rev.? Who gives a crap if some guy in Indonesia can't pronounce the console's name? So why try to make a name everyone can pronounce all of a sudden? It's stupid. It's uber retarded.

Nintendo needs to get their heads from out of the ground and realize that they need to sell an image. They need to destroy an image Sony and Microsoft has given them unfairly. Wii is NOT going to do that.

And it's not like Nintendo can't change the name. The Revolution won't be released till the end of the year. That gives them PLENTY of time to either go back to the Revolution name or think of another one. It won't stop console manufacturing, it won't cost Nintendo money, hell it doesn't even take a lot of effort. They can do this, they have time.

Let me put it this way. I know this isn't videogame related, but remember when they revealed Loonatics and they showed the bastardized, evil versions of the Looney Tunes characters? No one liked those! No one liked the idea behind the show. So this one kid, an 11 year old, got help from his parents to create a website and a comic book to change the look of the characters as well as alter the overall content of the show. After a while and having gathered a lot of signatures, the kid was able to convince WB that the look of the Loonatics was too mean and evil, so they went back to the drawing board and they changed the Loonatics so that they looked like heroes. They gave them eyes, rounder edges and looked like good guys. True, the show was NOT canceled or reworked, but the kid was able to at least change the look of the characters.

If an 11 year old can make an international film corporation like the WB drastically change the looks of the characters months from the show premiering, what stops us from trying to convince Nintendo that the new Rev. name sucks and need to change it? Like I said, this doesn't take much effort. Having to redo the characters then alter the episodes that were already finished to reflect the new look of the characters took a lot of effort and work to complete, and they did it. So why not Nintendo?

A lot of people complained that the original DS design looked too clunky, chubby and tiku tiku tiku! , so Nintendo went back and re-designed it, with just months till the US release.

So if we the fans and the media push hard, Nintendo will have to go back and change the name, or else it will seriously hurt their credibility as game makers.

Insult them, calmly express your opinion, whatever. Express your opinions whichever way possible, I don't care. The idea is to let Nintendo know that this new name sucks big time and that they need to do something about it.

[Hostile Creation]

My point is, Wii won't be associated directly with urine or the personal pronoun, in a few months.  It'll hearken to the pronoun, because that's the idea behind it, but mostly it'll just be a name for a gaming console that people will be buying.

The obsession with urine you people have is baffling.

Edit: Brilliant metaphor, by the way.  Really, I'm impressed.  Totally changed my mind, citing Cartoon Network as an example.

[BigJim]

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Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
""Confirmed" by who and what, pray tell? When have any of us used it on actual games?"

Good job getting jokes on the internet.

Ah. Ok then.  

[Smash_Brother]

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Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
I don't think someone's talking about anus whenever they use the conjunction "but" in a sentence.  Do you seriously think that's going to be a problem?

"We" is a pronoun. It's used at the beginning of a sentence to indicate that the sentence is referencing multiple people.

"But" is a conjunction, often used as an interrupting modifier, for continuing a sentence with an opposing viewpoint. You can start and END a sentence with but. You cannot end a sentence with we.

"We", when left on its own, becomes one of two things "wee" as in, "Help, save me from the wee turtles." meaning small, or baby slang for urine.

When I say "I want a wee." or "I can't wait for the wee." people will think I'm a drooling idiot who has to piss.

[jasonditz]

Revolution and 360 were too similar. They might as well have called it the Nintendo 2? radians

I'm fine with Wii. I do want yellow to be a launch color though.

Note: Ahh... shit, the forum doesn't let me do a pi symbol... you guys know what it supposed to be.