Topic: Disney kills again

[wandering]

"Woman dies after ride at Disney World"

For the second time, someone's fallen ill while riding mission space, and then died later in the hospital. (Although according to the article, the first death was later thought to be related to a rare heart condition.)

This is in addition to the man who died when Thunder Mountain in Disneyland crashed, and the man who died when a piece of a boat came flying off and hit him.

It's...hard to put this into perspective. On the one hand, there's the argument that, statistically, Disney is pretty safe. On the other hand, until recently, deaths at Disney were NEVER, ever the result of negligence on the part of the company...and now we have, what, four deaths and more injuries in 7 years? Imagine if Nintendo killed an average of one person every two years.

edit: and the ride's been reopened. After determining it's operating normally. I don't suppose the thought's occured that the ride's normal operation, you know, kills people, and should maybe be stopped?

[Nephilim]

mechanical devices, these days there all done in the warehouses, so that they can hold the weight of how many plus so much more, after years stress builds up on the machined metal
inlike 30years ago, were everything was welded to hell so a ride could hold 100tons

[Pale]

Man, I'm gonna be SUPER PISSED if this causes the ride to close down...

I'm leaving for disney in a week.

[King of Twitch]

That's not a bad way to go. I wouldn't mind dying at the happiest place on earth.  

[Zach]

Yeah, mission space is an awesome ride, I loved it, it is kinda weird that two people have died after riding it.  I rode it last year on a band trip, and I can see why it might aggravate an existing heart condition.  I went to disney once for vacation with my family back in 2000 also, and somone died on Splash mountain the day after we had ridden it.  That wasn't the fault of the park though, apperantly the guy had mental problems, and managed to jump off the boat  

[mantidor]

When I read the title somehow I thought they were going to announce Snow White 2 and thus finally killing all their classics with stupid sequels.

[Bill Aurion]

I like how there are like a BILLION warning labels all over Mission Space...It's not there for decoration!

[Shecky]

Mission Space is a great ride... I went on it 3 times (short lines - b/c the first scare had just happened)

Didn't feel any repercussions the first time, second was after lunch, eh not bad.   Third time though and I started feeling it  Enough that I went on Test Track instead.

I'm convinced the people who get really sick on this ride aren't following the safety instructions... one of them being not to move your head around during the ride.

[BlackNMild2k1]

hmmm..... gotta remember to plan a trip to Disneyland next time i decide to travel to the LA area. I haven't been there since '96 and I'm sure a whole lot has changed since then (side note: I can't believe that 10 years has passed already, I'm really starting to get old)[/conversation in head]

[Pale]

Space is in Disney World, not land.. jsyk

[Renny]

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"Sorry to be a spoiler but I have HBP [high blood pressure] and am on meds, and I LOVED mission space but was soooo sick I thought I wouldn't make it to the end of the attraction," one message stated. "I would not have ridden it if I had known how bad I would feel but it is a pretty incredible experience."

Despite my loathing of Disney, I have to give them credit for weeding out a few morons here and there.

[wandering]

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Man, I'm gonna be SUPER PISSED if this causes the ride to close down...

I'm leaving for disney in a week.

Not only will it not be closed, there won't be any line, so you can ride it again and again. (Don't, though. You'll get sick.)

My advice? Don't eat anything for a while before riding (we rode in the morning...and while none of us had to use the provided barf bags, the person who ate a large breakfast had stomach pangs... and I, who had nothing but water, had no ill effects.) Also, pay close attention to the soothing, soothing voice of Gary Sinese whenever he talks. (Not that you'll have any trouble doing that!)

It's a great ride when it doesn't kill you. A bit like riding an airplane for the first time. Good luck!

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Despite my loathing of Disney, I have to give them credit for weeding out a few morons here and there.

When it comes to people standing up on Splash Mountain, fine. But when it comes to a little kid with an undiagnosed heart condition, or a german woman who couldn't read english, no.

BTW, Renny, one of the people I rode with had high blood pressure. Maybe riding it wasn't the smartest thing to do, but after riding dozens of Disney's tame thrill rides with similiar warnings...I don't really blame people for not taking the warnings very seriously.

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I like how there are like a BILLION warning labels all over Mission Space...

Yeah, along with every other Disney ride. Seriously, Star Tours has similiar warnings, and it's about as intense as driving off-road. Mission Space, on the other hand, is as intense as astronaut training...minus all of the health tests.

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When I read the title somehow I thought they were going to announce Snow White 2 and thus finally killing all their classics with stupid sequels.

Well, in addition to killing two people, mission space also killed the excellent Horizons.

[Pale]

Horizons... refresh my memory? Which one is that?  I know i've probably ridden it several times but I'm not remembering.  Is that the one with the car that sat four across and you faced out the side?  And in the end you had to vote which scene you wanted?  Like water/space/land/etc.?

[StrikerObi]

Mission Space is totally fine. I have ridden it TONS of times (I'm fairly close to Orlando). The first kid died due to a rare heart condition while he was on the ride. This lady, who knows. But she had heart conditions, and was warned a number of times before getting on.

Anyway, lines are ALREADY super short due to the first kid who died. Even when the park is super packed Mission Space is empty (<20 minutes, usually <10)

[wandering]

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Horizons... refresh my memory? Which one is that? I know i've probably ridden it several times but I'm not remembering. Is that the one with the car that sat four across and you faced out the side? And in the end you had to vote which scene you wanted? Like water/space/land/etc.?

Yep. Plus, singing robots. Stuff about it here.

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Mission Space is totally fine. I have ridden it TONS of times (I'm fairly close to Orlando).

I've heard this before....except replace mission space with all manner of other wonderfully nasty things.

Though, actually I'm still kind of mixed on the issue. Deaths aside, it's not like Mission space does anything that the graviton at your local carnival doesn't. Humm.  

[Pale]

If the lines are really that short, isn't disney worried about putting something new there?

[18 Days]

Disney should drop it's deathtraps or leave this world forever.

[Pale]

I heard video games kill people too!

[Ian Sane]

I went to Disneyland two years ago.  The guy died on Big Thunder Mountain like two weeks before my trip.  Guess what my favourite ride is?  Needless to say I was pretty pissed.  I heard that guy STOOD UP while riding the thing and then got nailed when it went into a tunnel.  Don't they have those "wait until the ride has come to a complete stop" voiceovers for a reason?  I just got that information second hand though so that might be all BS and the real reason was actually the park's fault.

Space Mountain was getting repaired during my visit.  Thank God they have that new California Adventure park too or else I would have felt pretty ripped off.

Edit: further research indicates to me that the train did in fact derail so looks like it was Disney's fault.  Still I'm not going to declare Disneyland a death trap as overall its had a fantastic safety rating.

[Zach]

If you are in good health, then you should not worry about these rides.  Unless it turns out you have a rare heart condition like that unfortunate kid a few years back, then your screwed.  But for the most part, if you dont have high blood pressure, or heart conditions, then it is safe.  I would bet that it is probably more dangerous to drive a car.  The only other thing is to not be a stupid, In my home town the carnival was in town, and this dumb girl managed to squirm her way up over the top edge of the graviton (The thing wandering mentioned, its a big circle with walls on the outside, the circle spins and the force pushes you against the wall).  Well needless to say, once this girl got to the top she went flying out of the ride, I forget whether or not she lived though.  Sometimes darwinism is a factor.  

[wandering]

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Edit: further research indicates to me that the train did in fact derail so looks like it was Disney's fault. Still I'm not going to declare Disneyland a death trap as overall its had a fantastic safety rating.

Right. The man, who got crushed by the decorative engine, did nothing wrong. The derailment was a result of poor maintenance.

Disney's safety rating is good, but 2 deaths due to negligence on Disney's part within a 5 year time span gives one pause...especially when, before the Columbia and Thunder Mountain accidents, Disney could not be faulted for a single guest death for all of the 40+ years Disneyland was in operation.

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If you are in good health, then you should not worry about these rides. Unless it turns out you have a rare heart condition like that unfortunate kid a few years back, then your screwed. But for the most part, if you dont have high blood pressure, or heart conditions, then it is safe. I would bet that it is probably more dangerous to drive a car.

That's true. But one can't help but feel that, if Walt were alive today, he'd close Mission Space down.

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If the lines are really that short, isn't disney worried about putting something new there?]

Maybe eventually, but not overnight. Disney generally announces permanent ride closings well in advance.

Though, come to think of it, they might close unexpectedly for refurbishment. When no one was riding the crap they replaced Journey to Imagination with, they closed the ride for a while to add a CGI Figment.