Author Topic: Miyamoto Confirms Revolution Control for Zelda (Read 55103 times)

UncleBob · « **Reply #75 on:** March 16, 2006, 07:21:00 AM »

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Would you be upset if it turned out TP includes minigames you can play online?

Dude, that would be frickin' awesome, espically since I now have a broadband adapter. Comeon Nintendo, give us online Zelda Mini-Games!

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #76 on:** March 16, 2006, 07:29:14 AM »

"It feels like the lied to us. Maybe they weren't at the time and things changed but the way things were handled there was a real lack of honesty. I think we're all a little sick of Nintendo telling us one thing and then doing another."

Oh, come on! Nintendo is a business, they have to do things like this. Did you cry when you found out your parents were lying to you about Santa?

"Things probably would have been fine if Nintendo didn't show us that tech demo which gave us a completely different idea of what Zelda would look like on the Rev."

You know damn well gamers would have whined anyway. That was just a convenient excuse to do so.
I really don't see the purpose behind all this whining. There's no reason Nintendo can't used Twilight Princess (which will be a spectacular game) to bridge the gap between the two consoles, between controller functionality and Remote functionality. It's the last hurrah for Gamecube and an idea of what we'll have with the Revolution.

RiskyChris · « **Reply #77 on:** March 16, 2006, 08:27:26 AM »

I don't agree (surprise) with Ian's comments about Nintendo lying. I have good faith that they are improving the game not only revolution-wise, but content-wise as well in this extra year.

However, I do have a bit of ill will towards the original "Link vs. Ganondorf" teaser shown a long, long time ago. I couldn't stop drooling over that scene and equally over the oncoming GC zelda title. The switch was a major disappointment for a lot of people (myself included). WW did turn out to be a phenomenal game anyway, but the teaser was in bad taste.

Artimus · « **Reply #78 on:** March 16, 2006, 08:34:41 AM »

This thread makes me laugh. People get so angry for no reason.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #79 on:** March 16, 2006, 08:50:27 AM »

Finally found an appropriate image to summarize the thread...

vudu · « **Reply #80 on:** March 16, 2006, 08:52:42 AM »

I'm angry. But not at Nintendo. You people whine too damn much. Cry me an effing river.

If Nintendo made TP a Revolution game GameCube owners would bitch. If they kept it as a GameCube game with no Revolution functionality non-GameCube owners wouldn't have as much incentive to pick it up if/when they bought a Revolution.

So Nintendo released it as a GameCube game with added Revolution functionality in order to make both groups happy. Somehow, everyone's pissed. I have no idea how that happened.

PaLaDiN · « **Reply #81 on:** March 16, 2006, 08:59:16 AM »

Upon further consideration, I think my opinion of this depends more on how long the real Rev Zelda will take to develop. I'd think of this as just a teaser for now... I'll probably play through it on Gamecube first, then play through it again on the Rev to see what fun stuff's been added.

What the crap, you guys. Why would you do something like this? We're trying to have a stimulating discussion here, and you think you can just barge in and ruin everything with your heartless flippant remarks... what gives you the right? You really are just big fat jerks, and you should be ashamed of yourselves.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #82 on:** March 16, 2006, 09:38:32 AM »

Some people think they have a right to decide what is discussed on a forum even though they aren't moderators. It's like "I don't approve of this topic, I'll spam stupid posts until you stop discussing anything meaningful".

Personally I think all this being pissed off is stupid and pointless, they're adding an option to a game, if you feel cheated because Nintendo doesn't let you access everything on the disc just by owning the system and the game maybe you should have spoken up when Pokemon was released. Or Super Smash Brothers Melee, if you want to stay within the current generation.

Seriously, if you don't want to use that option then don't use it.

And complaining about delays is stupid. Would you rather have cut dungeons because of time constraints again?

RiskyChris · « **Reply #83 on:** March 16, 2006, 09:42:54 AM »

Was Wind Waker rushed? I wasn't following zelda news when it was released, but it certainly feels very rushed after completing the game in retrospect...

Anything but that again, please =(

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #84 on:** March 16, 2006, 09:45:28 AM »

Zelda TP is so long they had to delay the game because the beta testers just haven't completed the game yet. It's THAT long.

Kairon · « **Reply #85 on:** March 16, 2006, 09:46:40 AM »

/boggle

Even if Zelda:TP never came out on GC, I'd still be happy with my gamecube purchase. I wouldn't feel betrayed at all, or misled.

If it were otherwise, if I felt that Nintendo had strung me along with false promises, that Nintendo had deiberately decieved me with constant delays of Zelda:TP, if I saw Miyamoto and Iwata as money-grubbing opportunists with no respect for their work, or for their customers... well then I wouldn't own a Gamecube.

But perhaps for all those people who are upset about this news, they should rectify these wrongs against them as best they can by pawning off their gamecube, especially since the Rev is backwards compatible. It isn't a perfect way out of this haze of negativity, but I'd think it'd be less stressful to have in your house the purple lunchbox that is a symbol of Nintendo's contempt and abuse of gamers like you.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

UncleBob · « **Reply #86 on:** March 16, 2006, 09:50:36 AM »

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But perhaps for all those people who are upset about this news, they should rectify these wrongs against them as best they can by pawning off their gamecube, especially since the Rev is backwards compatible. It isn't a perfect way out of this haze of negativity, but I'd think it'd be less stressful to have in your house the purple lunchbox that is a symbol of Nintendo's contempt and abuse of gamers like you.

Just so everyone knows, I want a second GameCube, in good, working condition, perferably black, with digital out ports for under $20.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #87 on:** March 16, 2006, 10:51:58 AM »

"Finally found an appropriate image to summarize the thread..."

Dude, please. Everyone knows that Whaaambulance's have the writing backwards so you can read it in your rear view mirror. DU-UH!

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #88 on:** March 16, 2006, 11:18:16 AM »

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Originally posted by: Ian Sane Dude, please. Everyone knows that Whaaambulance's have the writing backwards so you can read it in your rear view mirror. DU-UH!

I figured the whaambulance will be running people over ON the forum, with its siren blaring a herald of overreaction and its lights flashing a warning that logic and reason were found DOA.

wandering · « **Reply #89 on:** March 16, 2006, 11:31:42 AM »

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It's a lot like the Wind Waker graphics situation. Things probably would have been fine if Nintendo didn't show us that tech demo which gave us a completely different idea of what Zelda would look like on the Rev. That's why there was such an outrage at the time. It felt like they fooled us. They either pulled a switcheroo or they didn't realize they were which means they're DUMB which isn't good either.

So, what, you want Nintendo to give us even LESS information than they do now?

BTW, I know a lot people feel differently, but I never liked the original SW2000 demo. It impressed me in terms of graphics, but it captured nothing that I liked about the series. IN contrast, while I was dumbfounded by the initial celda screenshots, I was giddy after seeing the video (you know, the one everybody hated for some reason.)

mantidor · « **Reply #90 on:** March 16, 2006, 11:32:05 AM »

You people just skim over my rants without reading them, I will buy the game or Ill probably just mod my cube and buy it pirate, because I dont feel as compelled to give them my money as I used to, my concern is what this means for revolution games, you are happy with some gimm!ck first person aiming, Im expecting a hell of a lot more because the controller can offer that, and if Nintendo thinks that just adding remote to old games is acceptable as good game design then its time for me to stick with PC games and forget theirs.

"If Nintendo made TP a Revolution game GameCube owners would bitch. If they kept it as a GameCube game with no Revolution functionality non-GameCube owners wouldn't have as much incentive to pick it up if/when they bought a Revolution."

oh god lets hope not, if non GC owners need TP with this lame functionality to pick up a Revolution then the console will indeed be Nintendo's last. This is only to win an extra buck with the game, nothing else, this wont break or make the Rev launch, if it does, Nintendo has a lot more serious problems than just me being pissed at them for lying.

I thought that Nintendo's priority was to make excellent quality games, but thats not the case.

RiskyChris · « **Reply #91 on:** March 16, 2006, 11:53:12 AM »

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oh god lets hope not, if non GC owners need TP with this lame functionality to pick up a Revolution then the console will indeed be Nintendo's last. This is only to win an extra buck with the game, nothing else, this wont break or make the Rev launch, if it does, Nintendo has a lot more serious problems than just me being pissed at them for lying.

Listen. Not everything relating to the revolution's success is an on/off switch. Zelda having a little bit of functionality doesn't mean that Nintendo believes a little bit of g!immicky functionality is par for the revolution course. It's simply added fluff to an already outstanding game. No one *needs* TP to have the functionality in order to buy the revolution, but it doesn't hurt, does it? It's just a little more incentive in the ever increasing pool of reasons to own Nintendo's next console.

All you cynics take things and make them the biggest deal. No one single thing will make or break the revolution. It takes a collection of screwups to take down a console.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #92 on:** March 16, 2006, 12:20:58 PM »

Looks like the whaambulance driver will be pulling a double-shift tonight...

Seriously, if people didn't take time to bitch about things they know little to nothing about yet, I wonder if we'd have internet discussion at all...

mantidor · « **Reply #93 on:** March 16, 2006, 12:28:50 PM »

"Listen. Not everything relating to the revolution's success is an on/off switch."

Thats just wrong, if theres no software that delivers the concept, the Rev will fail! thats your on/off switch.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #94 on:** March 16, 2006, 12:44:59 PM »

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Thats just wrong, if theres no software that delivers the concept, the Rev will fail! thats your on/off switch.

And you have proof that this software doesn't exist? No? Then why complain about it?

Can we PLEASE wait until E3 before we piss and moan about this? If the curtain goes up and Nintendo sells the concept, will all the whining stop then or will people whine about how there aren't enough traditional games for the Rev?

KnowsNothing · « **Reply #95 on:** March 16, 2006, 01:04:41 PM »

I just can't wait for E3 where they reveal that Twilight Princess is cel-shaded.

mantidor · « **Reply #96 on:** March 16, 2006, 01:27:26 PM »

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Thats just wrong, if theres no software that delivers the concept, the Rev will fail! thats your on/off switch.

And you have proof that this software doesn't exist? No? Then why complain about it?

And you have proof that it does exist? I blindly believed Nintendo would deliver, because they have delivered in the past, and in huge ammounts, but this has shocked me, from way back when it was just a"rumor" of the english magazine, to the subsequent Nintendo press releases and clevery worded "no comment" denials, not in my wildest dream I expected Nintendo to do something that I consider so cheap, so now Im absolutely doubtful of what they are going to offer as new generation software. Im not saying that is 100% sure Mario 128 will suck and be a gimm!ck that uses the controller just to make Mario jump by tilting the controller up, but for the first time Im not sure it will be a breaktrough revolution like Super Mario Bros and Mario 64 were.

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I just can't wait for E3 where they reveal that Twilight Princess is cel-shaded.

if only...

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #97 on:** March 16, 2006, 01:52:42 PM »

Is it just me or are some people using no creativity whatsoever when it comes to Revolution's potential? Tilting the controller to make Mario jump is about the lamest strawman argument I've heard for fearing Rev's controller. I really think some of you people have nothing better than to do than whine and complain, even when there is nothing to whine and complain about yet!

Ian Sane · « **Reply #98 on:** March 16, 2006, 02:07:16 PM »

"I just can't wait for E3 where they reveal that Twilight Princess is cel-shaded."

No wonder they delayed it.

"And you have proof that this software doesn't exist? No? Then why complain about it?"

I think it's a pretty big deal for Nintendo to delay a major Cube title to coincide with the the Rev launch. We Cube owners are starving for games. For some it might be the last straw. The general assumption might be that that things will never get better so why buy a Rev because it's be the same crap. The N64 ended as a barren wasteland and so did the Cube so why wouldn't the Rev? This is the moment where people decide "do I stick with Nintendo or not". Nintendo themselves have said that not having a smooth transition from the N64 to Cube hurt them. So for them to repeat the same mistake again when they potentially don't have to is a little odd.

If Zelda's Rev capabilities are just an "every little bit helps" for the launch that's fine. But why would Nintendo risk having this huge bunch of nothing on the Cube just for that? That suggests that maybe they feel they need Zelda for the launch. You would assume Nintendo has something that sells the concept at launch but they didn't for the DS. They launched the DS with a port and nothing else. It took months for any other first party DS games to even appear and months more for games that actually made good use of the touchscreen.

It happened before and Nintendo seemed pretty damn oblivious to it at the time.

ShyGuy · « **Reply #99 on:** March 16, 2006, 02:16:56 PM »

Wow, everyone is so EMO in this thread.

I can't keep track of all this. Zelda = Good. 'nuff said

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