Author Topic: The Revolution: the good, the bad, and the ugly (Read 21822 times)

megamanx1978 · « **Reply #50 on:** March 02, 2006, 08:17:16 AM »

Ian can you tell me what you like about Nintendo and what you think they are doing right?

trip1eX · « **Reply #51 on:** March 02, 2006, 09:07:26 AM »

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If I hated my girlfriend, I wouldn't stick around to beat her.

hehe. That's a good one.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #52 on:** March 02, 2006, 09:25:15 AM »

I like how Nintendo makes some of the best games of all time and that their hardware is incredibly durable and well-made. Nintendo products are typically of very high quality. Apart from being really good their games also are very well-made. There aren't a lot of bugs and controls respond smoothly.

I used to like how they rarely milked their franchises and that almost every sequel was essential. Sadly they've slipped in this area big time.

What do I think they're doing right? I'm not the biggest DS fan but the physical hardware itself is solid. It doesn't feel cheap and it doesn't break easily and I feel confident that my DS is going to work for a very long time. Although I feel their quality has slipped a bit Nintendo rarely releases really bad games. Sometimes they release average or unexceptional games. But they rarely release outright junk. Some companies release bad games where it feels like they're intentionally trying to con you into buying crap. Nintendo doesn't do that. Whenever I play a weak Nintendo game it usually feels more like they tried to make a great game but it just didn't work out. Pokemon is the major exception to this though as some of those games feel like intentional rip-offs.

trip1eX · « **Reply #53 on:** March 02, 2006, 09:30:11 AM »

Well that's a start. What do you like about the Revolution?

Ian Sane · « **Reply #54 on:** March 02, 2006, 10:14:01 AM »

Things I like about the Revolution:
- free online
- classic downloads feature
- fantastic Cube backwards compatibility including four controller ports
- standard wireless controllers
- case design doesn't look like a toy
- option DVD player support
- the fact that there is a controller shell for games where the remote isn't the ideal way to play

But there are some things that due to a lack of details I'm iffy about. If I have to have a wireless internet connection for a home console the free online isn't quite as nice. The download system sucks if it costs too much. The controller shell is only good if it's actually supported. Stuff like that affects things. Often the crucial detail is still missing.

Jensen · « **Reply #55 on:** March 02, 2006, 11:34:58 AM »

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If I have to have a wireless internet connection for a home console the free online isn't quite as nice.

huh? All it takes is a wired internet connection and a cheap USB wi-fi adaptor

Pros of wi-fi only (revolution) to wired only (xbox 360):

1. Revolution LAN games (8-16 player Mario Kart) with no additional accessories.... if the televisions are in seperate rooms, you won't need a long cable to connect between them.

2. Instant DS to Revolution connection, again, with no additional accessories....

3. You can put your Revolution in a different room from your computer with out using a long Cable (how many people have extra Cat 5 cables laying around?).

Sure. both wired and wi-fi would be better, but if I had to pick one to be in a Nintendo console, it would definately be wi-fi.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #56 on:** March 02, 2006, 11:43:24 AM »

"Sure. both wired and wi-fi would be better, but if I had to pick one to be in a Nintendo console, it would definately be wi-fi."

I'll agree with this but it's still f*cking stupid to force wireless when it is not very common at all.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #57 on:** March 02, 2006, 11:53:23 AM »

I find wireless is ridiculously common. You can get a wifi router combo at Wally world for $75 and a wifi "bridge" for even less.

Jensen · « **Reply #58 on:** March 02, 2006, 11:55:34 AM »

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stupid to force wireless when it is not very common at all.

Is it more common for people to have wireless than to have an extra Cat5 cable that they are willing to run from their computer area to their TV? And my first two points are advantages without needing internet at all.

(I personally use my computer monitor as my screen, because it has component inputs, but that is quite uncommon)

IceCold · « **Reply #59 on:** March 02, 2006, 11:56:55 AM »

1. Revolution LAN games (8-16 player Mario Kart) with no additional accessories.... if the televisions are in seperate rooms, you won't need a long cable to connect between them.

Don't forget the single disc LAN multiplayer.. wow, I'm really looking forward to that..

RiskyChris · « **Reply #60 on:** March 02, 2006, 12:15:25 PM »

Single disc LAN multiplayer? Hot damn!!!

MaryJane · « **Reply #61 on:** March 02, 2006, 12:20:29 PM »

I really wish you guys hadn't brought out the LAN capabilities of the rev, in all the arguing i totally forgot about that, and now that you reminded i'm going through even more rev-anxiety. Thanks a lot, I hope you guys have insurance, cuz you're gonna need it to cover my bills.

IceCold · « **Reply #62 on:** March 02, 2006, 12:32:57 PM »

Anxiety.. the good or bad type?

I don't think Merrick was supposed to let the single disc thing slip; it would have made for a wonderful surprise later on..

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #63 on:** March 02, 2006, 03:10:09 PM »

Where is this, now?

megamanx1978 · « **Reply #64 on:** March 02, 2006, 04:12:19 PM »

Well it's nice to hear Ian say something good for once. That kinda makes things more balanced. About wired VS wifi I think most cable & dsl ISPs come with wifi routers I know mine did. I can't wait to play Metroid Prime Hunters on my DS. It's gonna rock! As far as HD goes it's really a trade-off. More power is needed for HD and that is why the Rev's specs won't make the system look lacking. Nintendo even said Revolution will look the same on a SD TV. While HD does look sharper too few ppl have becouse it costs too much. This is also why the Xbox 360 costs so much and why the games are $60 instead of $50. Nintendo understands this and thinks it's not worth it this gen. I think that is wise of them. I don't wanna pay for things I won't use. I prefer a cheaper console instead.

Mario · « **Reply #65 on:** March 02, 2006, 04:17:04 PM »

I agree with Ian that it's stupid to force wireless, but i'll be happy if I can go online on Rev straight away with my DS Dongle.

Freyr · « **Reply #66 on:** March 02, 2006, 04:34:27 PM »

I would not doubt it if they have a single chip specialty made that will handle the wireless controllers and the LAN/Internet multiplayer/download service. So a wired connection would be a extra cost they don't want to spend on.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #67 on:** March 03, 2006, 12:15:29 AM »

I would not doubt it if they have a single chip specialty made that will handle the wireless controllers and the LAN/Internet multiplayer/download service.

Unlikely. WiFi and Bluetooth are very different.

MaryJane · « **Reply #68 on:** March 03, 2006, 05:55:48 AM »

I have good rev-anxiety. Like, omg i can't wait for this to launch, omg i can't wait for this to launch.

also i think i might have to say that no news is also good news for the rev. look at ps3. a lot of news about it has been bad. not all bad obviously, but the only "bad" thing reported about the rev is no HD, and that is depending on who u talk to.

Berto2K · « **Reply #69 on:** March 03, 2006, 11:51:44 PM »

And I get to play it before any of you.

RiskyChris · « **Reply #70 on:** March 04, 2006, 05:53:01 AM »

My anxiety for revolution is so much higher than when I got a Nintendo 64 on launch day. I've never been this excited for a next generation system...

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Author Topic: The Revolution: the good, the bad, and the ugly (Read 21822 times)