Topic: Final Fantasy VII-IX for the DS, Think it could happen?

[Smash_Brother]

FYOOL for teh FYAR!

*cough*

Seriously...

The rumour began with Square Enix producer Tetsuya Nomura confirming to Japanese PlayStation 2 magazine Dengeki PS2 that Final Fantasy VII will have a significant showing at next year’s Electronics Entertainment Expo, building on the company’s comments from last year when SE promised “…polymorphic [Final Fantasy VII] content providing well-known properties on several platforms, allowing exposure of the products to as wide an audience as possible.”

Of course, this rumour stands in contradiction with established talk that a high-budget PlayStation 2 remake of Final Fantasy VII is in the works, though it could be argued that it makes far more sense for a DS version to be released.

Sounds like Cappers here may be right after all.

This should prove a VERY interesting E3...

[wandering]

From now on, no one is allowed to link to spong ever.

[Strell]

Wouldn't the Sony conference speaking about PSP emulation for PSOne games put this rumor to rest?  

No?

[capamerica]

Spong isn't a source I would site, Their track recored isn't the best.

As for the PSOne emulation for the PSP, I don't think that would be what Square had in mind. The PSOne emulation sounds more like Sony getting desperate for content. I think very few developers had any say on this.

I wish I could find the exact quote I think it was from the Tokyo Game Show, Anyway when asked about a remake of Final Fantasy VII for the PS3 or even the PSP Tetsuya Nomura said that if he were to do a remake of Final Fantasy VII it would be for a Non-Sony system.

I wouldn't be surprized to find out that Sony went to Square asking for a updated port of Final Fantasy VII for the PSP just so the could move more systems since the recent resurged of FFVII popularity cause of FFVII:AC and Sqaure told them that they wouldn't release any remakes of Final Fantasy VII on a Sony system.  

[Smash_Brother]

It's the fact that they quoted the Square which means anything.

Their quote, coupled with what Cap is saying, means it could be true, thus furthering the rumor.

But we'll know by E3 one way or another.

[KDR_11k]

I think that Spong quote there says nothing about a DS remake. In fact I dont see anmything about a remake in there at all, though I know they did say that a remake might be worth a thought. So far I don't think they're really working on it yet.

[Smash_Brother]

Actually, this is the one I meant:

"Speaking to SPOnG this morning, a Square Enix representative said, “Final Fantasy VII is one of the franchises that we aim to really explore using our polymorphic content principal. There has been talk of a remake for sometime now as you know. We are aiming to deliver such properties in many different ways and on many different platforms and FFVII will be the first to really show this strategy to its fullest potential.”"

It would carry more water if they named the rep, but it's still an interesting quote, provided they didn't outright invent it.

[capamerica]

The story doesn't really say Square is working on a DS version, But it does talk about a version for another console. Just do to the fact that the GBA/DS has Final Fantasy 1-6 makes the DS a excellent candidate for FFVII. As I said in a couple posts up, Tetsuya Nomura did say that there will be no remake for a Sony system which really only leaves the Revolution, Xbox360 and the DS.

We'll have to wait for E3 to see what happens. But in the mean time heres to wishful thinking:

[TMW]

Final Fantasy VII: Doesn't Suck

[Darkheart]

Yeah but seriously as much as I would kill for FF7-9 on the Ds, we still have yet to recieve FF3 and CC.  They have not shown anything on CC making me believe it has some sort of interactivity with FFCC:Rev.  Heres to hoping we get the entire FF collection eventually on Nintendo's side (well at least as far as Ps1 games go)   I could go for some Chrono Cross Ds too !  

[MysticGohan]

Meh, Chrono Trigger :p it must be done!

[tssf]

Here is a link that might interest some people.

No, this is not a port of Final Fantasy 7 for the DS, but it's a home brewer's developed RPG engine that can, coincidentally, read Final Fantasy 7 data files.

Now, if you put his work together with the music that I wrote for the IT format here, you will notice that FF7DS is very doable, and faithful to it's original at that.

Now you're wondering about FMV right? No problem. Check the previous link, it's got a file format of DPG. DPG is a homebrewer's creation, it is a form of mpeg that's playable on the DS at a very respectible frame rate. FF7's original framerate was 15fps, more than enough for DPG to handle at full speed.

Now if any of you have the ability to run homebrewn DS software, run a program called "MoonShell". Run that DPG file in it. It is the intro to Final Fantasy 7...running in full speed, without any problems at all. Notice the file size. That video is 2 minutes long, and it is only 3.8 megabytes large.

Keeping in mind that most data files in FF7 actually repeat across all 3 discs, and keeping in mind that backgrounds/sprites/etc on the original Playstation version were VERY uncompressed, you can come to one undeniable conclusion: FF7DS is not only possible in it's entirety, but it's faithfulness would be almost astonishing.

Infact, I was confident in saying to someone else that, if done properly, the game itself wouldn't be more than say, 150 megabytes in total. Considering the press and attention FF7 would bring to the DS, Nintendo would more than likely cut Square Enix a deal with the DS Card prices. It would make them all much more money in the long run, anyway.

Now, the only problem is, finding a development group who'd be talented and dedicated enough to actually pull it off, properly.

If people are doubtful about the DS's 3D capabilities, read Ficedula's website (The first link in this post here ) He provides very good information regarding character model poly counts and such.

EDIT: On FF8 and 9: It's possible but a lot less likely than FF7. There were significant advances in all the technology used in these games, meaning much larger assets would need to be compressed. It's unlikely 8 or 9 would ever see the light of day on the DS. FF7 has the best chance, in my opinion.

[capamerica]

Thats for all that info tssf, it helps back my argument about FFVII coming to the DS alot.

We really need to know exactly how much you can push a DS before you can disqualify FFVIII and FFIX, Hey if we can get FFVII running this early in the DS's life I don't see why in the near future when the power in unlocked better by developers that porting FFVIII and FFIX wouldn't be possible.

We'll all just have to wait and see what Square does.