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Offline ThePerm

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Memory Cards....
« on: December 15, 2005, 06:30:11 PM »
Other than the gamecube memory cards and the sd cards..will it support portable memory? How big will it be?

the newest memory card is pretty sizeable for gamecube..its as big as a ps2 card  
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RE:Memory Cards....
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2005, 09:06:04 PM »
SD cards go to 2 gigs right now.  $99 for Generic, $129 for Corsair, San-Disk or Kingston bumps it to $175.  Not huge, but certainly big enough for most purposes.  If Square-Enix wanted to port FFXI to the Rev, I'm sure that Nintendo would figure out a way for a USB hard drive to work.  

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RE:Memory Cards....
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2005, 09:56:43 PM »
Wiki says they're usually 32 mm × 24 mm × 2.1 mm but can be as thin as 1.4 mm. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SD_Card
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RE: Memory Cards....
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2005, 06:25:17 AM »
Cube and SD cards are all Nintendo mentioned (plus the internal Flash memory)

What's not portable about SD cards?
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RE: Memory Cards....
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2005, 06:35:52 AM »
May I rant about Nintendo not supporting the SD adapter outside of one game in Japan? Instead pushing out an 8MB card at the end of the Cube's life in an attempt to squeeze more profit out of their own cards. And still ultimately giving away the bigger cards with Madden bundles, thereby achieving little profit well after having damaged the platform with a common and accurate perception that the GameCube has too-small memory cards. No? All right, I won't. For now.

And hoorah for SD support on the Revolution. It's about damn time.
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RE: Memory Cards....
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2005, 07:27:12 AM »
i said other than!!!!!!
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RE:Memory Cards...
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2005, 08:39:16 PM »
Im suprised no company has created a sd adapter that will connect any sd slot to any harddrive you choose.

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« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2005, 08:56:13 PM »
Um, yes, it's called a PC.

EDIT: Ah, now I get it. I don't think that's possible since HDs have latencies that flash memory doesn't have. The game will probably expect a certain amount of data per cycle, if that doesn't come the reaction can't be predicted.

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« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2005, 12:31:47 AM »
If a developer or programmer wanted to they could probally get around it. But since it doesn't look like it would be supported by Nintendo it probally will not happen.
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« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2005, 06:03:51 AM »
Considering that they have harddrives that are going to have flash memory on them to buffer data before being sent to the drive it should be quite possible. It might not be logical at this time  however. Cost wise that is. But if would be usefull for portable electronics for when your tavelling. Just make a lighter plug in and a wall plug in.

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RE:Memory Cards...
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2005, 08:10:05 AM »
There is still a possibility for USB HDD, and that is portable.
But I doubt it.

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« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2005, 03:01:58 PM »
Maybe an SD Card port to USB connector could be devised by a third party. Unless Nintendo are gonna be dicks, the Rev will have to support FAT32 when it writes to memory cards. Otherwise the card will have to be rendered incompatible with basically everything. I wouldn't put it past them to skip that though, and pay no royalty to MS.
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RE: Memory Cards...
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2005, 03:56:34 PM »
What about that NTFS format thing for hard drives? Does Gates own that too?
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« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2005, 04:01:43 PM »
Gates does own NTFS, but it's not used in memory cards for the most part. It is far superior than FAT32 on hard drives though, but writing NTFS isn't really possible outside of Windows. Apple only implemented NTFS reading in the newest version of OSX, Tiger. Anyways, like I said, unless Nintendo are douchebags, they'll support FAT32. They're already going to be paying money to Sony for DVD playback; no reason not to pay MS for standard memory card formatting.
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« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2005, 04:32:29 PM »
Ah... What about Fat16?  I'm just guessing it's Microsoft prperty, too...
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« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2005, 06:22:42 PM »
FAT16 is pointless, and also owned by MS. Anyways, let's see what happens...Nintendo is notorious for cheaping out on minor things like this (and this isn't really so minor.)
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« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2005, 08:53:23 PM »
MS now charges for FAT16 (or at least wanted to do that). There are dozens of free file systems out there, stuff like ext2/3, XFS, JFS, reiserFS, etc. But since Linux supports all FAT versions there are ways to get that for free.

There are very early and unstable drivers that can write NTFS under Linux but obviously you wouldn't use those in a retail product.

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« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2005, 05:33:43 AM »
Alright then, if FAT is free, it'll be used, and there's no problem. KDR, whats the compatibility of all those FSs you just listed outside of Linux and OSX? They're all probably leagues better than FAT (especially reiser), but if its not used in digicams, mp3 players and whatever else uses SD these days, it would be pointless.
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RE: Memory Cards...
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2005, 06:16:36 AM »
Most devices just use FAT because Windows does and I don't think any of them even care about OS X.

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« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2005, 07:38:02 AM »
my sd card always transfered from either my mac at school or my windows pc(98), same with my jump drive
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« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2005, 09:12:25 AM »
Right...we're making a mountain out of molehill, thanks to that stupid FS comment of mine. Let's just agree that they'll use FAT and end it.
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