Topic: Miyamoto Interview in Game Informer magazine

[ShyGuy]

Interesting Shiggy quote in response to a question about how only 10% of gamers buy periphials for game systems. This was in regards to Rev controller add-ons.

"what you've seen with our efforts on the Nintendo DS, we've tried to limit the perephials and instead include functionality from the start with the system. We're going to use this same philosophy with the Revolution. As far as the controller goes, the main controller unit is the most expensive component of the controller...the expansion controllers will be very cheap to manufacturer. So, we could just pack them in with the games."

[cubist]

I'm not a really big Game Informer fan.  But I'm interested to see the entire interview.  Thanks for the tip.  

[ShyGuy]

Yeah, I'm not a big GI fan either. Their reviews are poor but they do have a good preview section. That was the only really good question in the Miyamoto interview, so I don't know if it's worth buying the magazine for.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

GNARLY

[Bill Aurion]

Nice quote...Yet another Ian complaint shot down in mid-air...

[Don'tHate742]

Hahaha....so true bill, so true...

Kinda like the willy wonka commercial...

What will Ian come up with next?

[odifiend]

Hoorah for Ian bashing.

This doesn't really put anything to rest.  Packing peripherals in with the games they support is the same system Nintendo has always used.  Rumble Pak, Expansion pak, Transfer pak, etc...  Unless everything is coming with the system, they'll never have 100% functionality because people might pass on the games which support those peripherals.  The problem is with the exception of the shell, I don't think this problem can be avoided.  I foresee multiple peripherals coming out during the console's lifetime since that is what the expandible slot is for.
Good news that they are cheap though.

Hey, this reminded me of something.  Wasn't the GCN supposed to get a new peripheral?  It would be interesting if the Rev concept arose from that.

[nickmitch]

Well, if they come with the games that they're intended for, then wouldn't it not matter if someone didn't buy the game? They obviously don't need the functionality, so I see no problem.

[odifiend]

Unless the peripheral is used multiple times like the Rumble pak and the Expansion Pak...  But I guess if you have an addictive ass game like Pokemon or DDR people won't mind.

[Ian Sane]

"Nice quote...Yet another Ian complaint shot down in mid-air..."

Well I'm not upset about that.  I want Nintendo to prove me wrong in situation like this.

Though including add-ons only really works if it's game specific, like the add-on is custom to that games needs.  The shell is a general add-on to accomodate more traditional game design.  That still has to be included with every controller to really get the kind of penetration to be used by all third parties.  If it comes with every controller then the potential problem of PS3/X360 games being unportable is completely gone.  Nintendo has the more flexible controller, capable of doing everything the competition can plus more.

But I'm glad to see that it probably wouldn't be that expensive to do and that Nintendo is acknowledging that the remote won't work for everything.  And I do think they did a good job with the DS regarding accessories so hopefully that will translate to the Rev.  The only difference is this really requires something being included with every controller, not just every system.

[Bill Aurion]

I'm not upset about you not being upset about it...

I'm happy that your complaints are shot down so you can be as happy about the Revolution as I am... =D

[BlackNMild2k1]

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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
The shell is a general add-on to accomodate more traditional game design.  That still has to be included with every controller to really get the kind of penetration to be used by all third parties.  If it comes with every controller then the potential problem of PS3/X360 games being unportable is completely gone.  Nintendo has the more flexible controller, capable of doing everything the competition can plus more.

But I'm glad to see that it probably wouldn't be that expensive to do and that Nintendo is acknowledging that the remote won't work for everything.  And I do think they did a good job with the DS regarding accessories so hopefully that will translate to the Rev.  The only difference is this really requires something being included with every controller, not just every system.

I say that if it is cheap enough to include with the purchase of a game(@ no xtra charge) then why isn't cheap enough to have one come with the purchase of every controller (and one packed in w/ the system)?

[Bill Aurion]

Um, because the peripherals that Miyamoto are talking about would be game-specific?

[King of Twitch]

They could always do mini-bundles, like a fishing rod, bug-catching net, and ice rod controller add-ons for $20. Then of course they'll have to sell the shell by itself, the shell + remote, the remote by itself, then the various add-ons separately.

I bet the Revolution section of the game store will be flooded with this stuff.

[IceCold]

I don't know... it seems good and all, but there is the possibility of having so many attachments that it will become a hassle. Right now all you need is one controller, and thats it... I don't like the idea of so many attachments. Plus, they might not be of good quality. I know, Nintendo's controllers are really durable, but they let the Mario Party 6 mic go through, and it is quite shoddy. We don't know if the quality of the attachments will be up to par, especially if they're trying to cut costs on them.

I think including the shell with a console should definitely happen, but I don't know about with each controller.

[ShyGuy]

Will we see 3rd party Pelican shells that mimic the layout of the 360 or PS3 controllers?

[Don'tHate742]

Well Nintendo could always have some promotion where every REV has a download card, with 5 games worth of downloads. Bringing the card to the store will allow for some discount on the controller shell....  

[Flames_of_chaos]

How is that mic shoddy? I have the Mic well from karaoke revolution party they pack in a Nintendo Microphone thats black and the quality is pretty good  and it doesn't have the cheap plastic feel. You can come up with the complaint of add on peripherals but guess what every console has peripherals thats used for one or two games and sometimes they don't come by cheap.

What I hope is if Konami makes more DDR for Rev (come on Mario Mix 2) they would allow you to use the gamecube Dance pad Via the cube ports. And the same thing would go with namco  for donkey konga.

[couchmonkey]

This is pretty good, I hope that Nintendo will include the traditional controller shell either as a bundle with the controllers or else allow third parties to include it with any of their games at a reasonable cost.  Although I'm not as interested in the traditional control style anymore, I want to see it available for the same reasons as Ian.

[cubist]

I hope the game-specific peripheral attachments don't turn the Rev Remote into a freakin' vacuum cleaner where you need a specific attachment for a different type of vacuuming situation.  It'll become too much of an inconvenience to keep track of 10 different peripherals.  Of course, the number 10 is exaggerated...but I'm simply making the point in reference to peripheral hassle.

[Pale]

I'm starting to think there will be no such thing as the traditional shell because the remote will be tweaked enough that, on its side, it will work as a traditional gamepad.  To me that explains why 1. Nintendo isn't actively showcasing or mentioning a traditional shell, and 2. They aren't shooting down the fact that some reps have mentioned it exists.

They don't want to shoot down the fact that it exists, but they don't want to show something off that won't ever come out...

I dunno.  One reason they showed it off early is probably because they wanted to get millions of critics.  They can use that data to make the controller more perfect than it already is.  =P