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RE: My Revolution Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #50 on: December 07, 2005, 06:53:08 PM »
Is this still the My Revolution Conspiracy Theory thread or is it now the I Have Secret Insider Info thread?
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RE:My Revolution Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #51 on: December 07, 2005, 07:41:05 PM »
I didn't have insider information.....I just drew a logical conclusion from facts I read in periodicals and the web.

And Artemis, if you read the article, it states that if you took the Gamecube and doubled the clock speed of the CPU and GPU, you'd basically have a Revolution.  That makes Hollywood and Broadway no more that Gekko and Flipper on crystal meth (i.e. overclocked).

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RE: My Revolution Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #52 on: December 07, 2005, 07:42:12 PM »
I hear the Gamecube is an overclocked N64...Confirm: Yes or No?
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RE: My Revolution Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #53 on: December 07, 2005, 08:50:05 PM »
If you take any system and increase it's clock speed you get the new system...I fail to see how this makes any sense.

TWO BRAND NEW CHIPS. How much more 'new' can you get? The Revolution has as much new hardware as the 360, PS3, PS2, GCN, N64, SNES, Dreamcast, etc. Your prediction made little sense at the time, and now you're expanding an already shaky term so that somehow you are possibly right. You're not. The system is brand new. It is similar to GameCube in many ways, but it is not an improved GameCube, because it uses none of the same hardware. Last time I checked, btw, overclocking wasn't going to double your CPU and GPU. Your point is wrong, and your attempts to broaden what you said into some realm of credibility is unsuccessful.

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RE: My Revolution Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #54 on: December 08, 2005, 05:14:59 AM »
Nothing different from what is said above. Many have, and will continue to say, that the Revolution is likely not to have any tricked out specs, but its the controller that will make most of the difference, and thats what matters.

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RE:My Revolution Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #55 on: December 08, 2005, 06:09:09 AM »
You guys are really getting it twisted.  I'm not putting down the system in any way.  If you read my previous posts in this thread, I'm actually praising Nintendo for not giving in to the "horsepower wars".  All I'm saying is that this is looking more and more like Gamecube revisited more than a brand new system, or like Ian said, Cube+.

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RE: My Revolution Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #56 on: December 08, 2005, 06:42:51 AM »
I never said it was a bad thing, or that you said it was a bad thing. I'm just telling you how stupid what you said was, and how wrong. You said: "BECAUSE IT'S A GAMECUBE!" but how? It has a whole new chipset, whole new controller, who new disc medium, etc. The PS2 used PSX controllers and memory cards, but no one calls it a repackaged PSX. The simple fact is all you said was 'repackaged gamecube' with no boundaries or elaboration! So now, you're claiming you were right because there's nothing you said that had any actual merit or value to it. If I said "The GameCube will be an improved N64!" I'd be about as right as you are. New chips, more power, new storage medium, new controller. Not being 12 times as powerful doesn't make it a repackaged GameCube. The only thing it reuses is the design enviroment, which has nothing to do with hardware and everything to do with developing ease.

In order for it to be a repackaged GCN, it needs to have many similar parts to the GCN. It has, what? None? The only similar parts it has are the controller ports which are specifically FOR GameCube games. Let's try this again:

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RE:My Revolution Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #57 on: December 08, 2005, 10:40:20 AM »
Fine, whatever....at least we won't have to worry about this:

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RE:My Revolution Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #58 on: December 23, 2005, 02:56:36 AM »
Hey Artimus!  Give credit where it's due......I called the exclusive Revolution content for Zelda!  Read my #5 point and then say....

You. Were.  RIGHT!.....or say nothing.....that's what I expect anyway.  

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RE:My Revolution Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #59 on: December 23, 2005, 05:04:36 AM »
Knoxxville was right in spirit, but not at all in essentials, lol.

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RE:My Revolution Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #60 on: December 23, 2005, 05:09:31 AM »
I'll take it!

I mean, of course I wasn't dead on since I'm no insider (then again, they are not done tweakin' it yet, so you never know), but I did make the point that Rev exclusive features would be included to help "bridge the gap" of sorts.  

And Artimus, you're a buster for not being able to concur as well as you non-concur.

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RE:My Revolution Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #61 on: December 23, 2005, 06:27:43 AM »
It's all you're gonna get Knoxxville, because take any of your literal statements and I don't think anyone believed them (not even Ian!), nor are they believable now, lol.

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RE:My Revolution Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #62 on: December 23, 2005, 06:51:29 AM »
Hey, alrighty now, I said I'd take it......I'll admit I didn't hit a home run, but at least I got on base.

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RE:My Revolution Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #63 on: April 09, 2006, 08:08:44 AM »
You guys gotta admit that this looks a little bit more plausible nowadays.

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RE:My Revolution Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #64 on: April 09, 2006, 08:44:29 AM »
Knoxxville, I take it all back.

It's not just more plausible now. It's apparent now that what you propose was EXACTLY what Nintendo originally intended!

*gets down on his knees and begins to worship you*

Oh great prophet, what does the future hold?

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RE:My Revolution Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #65 on: April 09, 2006, 08:48:40 AM »
LOL@Kairon, the great Zentradi warlord....you are being sarcastic, right?

Seriously though (all patronism aside), what I said back in Mid-Nov isn't looking as farfetched as it once did.  I'm not saying that I hit the nail on the head, but I definitely got in into the wood, you know?  

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RE: My Revolution Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #66 on: April 09, 2006, 08:50:22 AM »
I still dont understand what this thread even means. It has a whole new chip set. How is that a repackage? A repackage is when you take something and change...the packaging. If you had said an evolved GameCube...sure. But it's a whole new system!

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RE:My Revolution Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #67 on: April 09, 2006, 08:53:25 AM »
Okay, Artimus (here we go...), always sweating the small stuff...like I said, I'm not Ms. Cleo, alright?  But at lot of my other points in the original post make sense....like Zelda being the bridge, and the developers complementing the ablitity to skip the learning curve and put out next-gen looking games almost immediately....for the most part, I got some of it fairly close considering that I'm no insider.  

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RE:My Revolution Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #68 on: April 09, 2006, 09:00:20 AM »
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Originally posted by: Knoxxville
LOL@Kairon, the great Zentradi warlord....you are being sarcastic, right?

Seriously though (all patronism aside), what I said back in Mid-Nov isn't looking as farfetched as it once did.  I'm not saying that I hit the nail on the head, but I definitely got in into the wood, you know?


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RE: My Revolution Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #69 on: April 09, 2006, 09:04:06 AM »
I'm looking through this thread and I don't see people (myself included) disagreeing about Zelda or developers liking the ease. If you recall we already KNEW that by time you made your post. Nintendo had already said it shared developing archetecture...your point was already confirmed. And on the Zelda, you missed the biggest point of all: Rev controller input!

You did not get it fairly close, your main hypothesis is wrong! Look:

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-...even though the guts haven't changed much from the 'Cube.
-How can a next gen system be so cheap, you ask? BECAUSE IT'S A GAMECUBE!
-This is the 1st Ninendo system to not only be backwards compatible (Game Boy excluded), but to also have the last gen console's controller AND memory card ports built in! If that doesn't raise any eyebrows, then you don't have any.


All incorrect. And those are your MAIN points. You changed it later on, making it an upgrade (which is still only a fraction true), but your claims you're so insightful just aren't true. Which is why I don't understand why you'd bump this thread months later.

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RE: My Revolution Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #70 on: April 09, 2006, 09:05:08 AM »
Artimus,

Ah, but do you remember when there was that whole Megaton furor that came to nothing? That must've been what the freehand controller was about. Nintendo has already gone on record that they originally intended to release it as an add-on for the GC. That course of action would certainly amount to a "repackaged GameCube." What Knoxville miraculously stumbled upon was their original intentions, their original plans, before Iwata changed them and realised that they needed to upgrade the GC somehow.

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RE:My Revolution Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #71 on: April 09, 2006, 09:13:13 AM »
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Artimus,

Ah, but do you remember when there was that whole Megaton furor that came to nothing? That must've been what the freehand controller was about. Nintendo has already gone on record that they originally intended to release it as an add-on for the GC. That course of action would certainly amount to a "repackaged GameCube." What Knoxville miraculously stumbled upon was their original intentions, their original plans, before Iwata changed them and realised that they needed to upgrade the GC somehow.

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But they didn't intend to upgrade the hardware, they simply intended to release the revmote as a new controller. I do agree he met with some of their intentions, but he didn't meet with what happened like he claims.

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RE:My Revolution Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #72 on: April 09, 2006, 09:13:48 AM »
THANK YOU!!  OMG!!  A CO-SIGN!!  FINALLY!

I guess Iwata visited the boards and was like, "They're on to us!!"


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« Reply #73 on: April 09, 2006, 09:15:31 AM »
If they didn't intend to upgrade the hardware, and they intended to resell the same box for another 5 more years with the freehand essentially packed-in, that would amount to a "repackaging" of the Gamecube.

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« Reply #74 on: April 09, 2006, 09:18:56 AM »
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LOL@Kairon, the great Zentradi warlord....you are being sarcastic, right?

Seriously though (all patronism aside), what I said back in Mid-Nov isn't looking as farfetched as it once did.  I'm not saying that I hit the nail on the head, but I definitely got in into the wood, you know?


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....and I spelled Zentradi correctly to boot!

I used to run home from school everyday to watch Robotech when I was a kid....I even made myself sit thought that sometimes god awful Macross 7 with all that damn singing....WTF was THAT about?